Appeal granted for Darlington Gypsy site

APPEAL GRANTED: Planning inspector Louise Crosby has overturned Darlington Borough Council’s decision to refuse a single family gypsy site on Snipe Lane, near Hurworth

APPEAL GRANTED: Planning inspector Louise Crosby has overturned Darlington Borough Council’s decision to refuse a single family gypsy site on Snipe Lane, near Hurworth

First published in News Darlington and Stockton Times: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter (Darlington)

AN application for a single family Gypsy site has been granted after it was initially rejected on the grounds that it would damage the visual impact of the area.

Planning inspector Louise Crosby overturned Darlington Borough Council’s decision to refuse traveller Thomas Lee’s application to create a site for his family in October last year.

The site lies on the eastern side of Snipe Lane, near Hurworth, just off the A66 bypass and will accommodate a static caravan, amenity building and touring caravan, as well as a stable block for two horses and a tack room.

Although the council had granted a number of private gypsy pitches on the western side of the lane, officers argued at an appeal hearing that allowing a pitch on the eastern side would lead to a proliferation of applications the council would not be able to turn down.

In a report confirming her decision, Ms Crosby said that although the appeal site was an open field, the topography of the land meant the development would not be very visible and would be partially screened by a hedge.

She also said Mr Lee, his wife and four children were currently living at the Neasham Road Gypsy and traveller site, which she described as poor quality and not a suitable place to raise children due to a lack of green space and sanitary facilities.

“Mr Lee and his family are living on a site that is unsuitable and there is a general unmet need for additional gypsy and traveller sites in Darlington,” she added.

“It is government policy to encourage more private site provision and reduce tensions between settled and traveller communities in planning decisions.

“In this case there has been just one objection to the proposal and that was from the parish council in relation to highway safety and visual amenity.

“Overall I find that the proposal would not result in significant harm to the character of the surrounding area and in only minimal harm to its appearance. This is far outweighed by the identified general unmet need and lack of suitable, alternative sites.”

A number of conditions were imposed on the site, including restrictions on the number and type of caravans occupying the site to prevent any commercial activities from taking place.

External lighting will also be controlled, to protect the character and appearance of the surrounding area.

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4:17pm Fri 29 Aug 14

behonest says...

Do the people of Darlington have any further say on this decision, imposed upon them by this unelected, unaccountable quango known as the Planning Inspectorate? Or is it just tough luck, yet another gypsy site in Darlington, whether we like it or not. I think we all know the answer.

I suspect the Labour council refused the application knowing full well it would be overturned on appeal.
Do the people of Darlington have any further say on this decision, imposed upon them by this unelected, unaccountable quango known as the Planning Inspectorate? Or is it just tough luck, yet another gypsy site in Darlington, whether we like it or not. I think we all know the answer. I suspect the Labour council refused the application knowing full well it would be overturned on appeal. behonest
  • Score: 48

4:18pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Happy today says...

She also said Mr Lee, his wife and four children were currently living at the Neasham Road Gypsy and traveller site, which she described as poor quality and not a suitable place to raise children due to a lack of green space and sanitary facilities.


Why not live in a house with a garden and bathroom then !
She also said Mr Lee, his wife and four children were currently living at the Neasham Road Gypsy and traveller site, which she described as poor quality and not a suitable place to raise children due to a lack of green space and sanitary facilities. Why not live in a house with a garden and bathroom then ! Happy today
  • Score: 54

4:40pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Teesflyer says...

Has there EVER been a similar application refused - why bother with the time and cost (to the taxpayers) of an application process and the inevitable successful appeal? DBC's shamelessly biased (we wouldn't dare infer corrupt...) Planning Department continues to ignore any objections and arguments from local tax and rate payers - pathetic!
Has there EVER been a similar application refused - why bother with the time and cost (to the taxpayers) of an application process and the inevitable successful appeal? DBC's shamelessly biased (we wouldn't dare infer corrupt...) Planning Department continues to ignore any objections and arguments from local tax and rate payers - pathetic! Teesflyer
  • Score: 35

4:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Topcat28 says...

I have a back yard (lack of green space) does this that my application will be approved?
I have a back yard (lack of green space) does this that my application will be approved? Topcat28
  • Score: 38

5:08pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Bank of Europe says...

amazing what a brown envelope will do for you with these councillors Please tell me you didn't think anything else would happen?? Just the first time round wasn't enough in the envelope SIMPLES
amazing what a brown envelope will do for you with these councillors Please tell me you didn't think anything else would happen?? Just the first time round wasn't enough in the envelope SIMPLES Bank of Europe
  • Score: 29

6:26pm Fri 29 Aug 14

loan_star says...

Thin end of the wedge. Lack of gypsy facilities in Darlo? What a joke.
Thin end of the wedge. Lack of gypsy facilities in Darlo? What a joke. loan_star
  • Score: 37

8:10pm Fri 29 Aug 14

hogworth says...

Bet that bloody woman has never been on a traveller site or lived near one.
Bet that bloody woman has never been on a traveller site or lived near one. hogworth
  • Score: 27

7:04am Sat 30 Aug 14

tabby67 says...

What a JOKE now lets see how long this thread will last before it is taken down!
Yesterday I saw a bus driving down my street and 2 young (about 12) gypo lads on bikes riding in front of it and wouldn't budge to let the bus past and they were giving the bus driver the thumbs up and 2 fingers and thought it was funny!
They wonder they are not liked! So she will move on that site and more will replace them on the site they are on now NO THANKS!
What a JOKE now lets see how long this thread will last before it is taken down! Yesterday I saw a bus driving down my street and 2 young (about 12) gypo lads on bikes riding in front of it and wouldn't budge to let the bus past and they were giving the bus driver the thumbs up and 2 fingers and thought it was funny! They wonder they are not liked! So she will move on that site and more will replace them on the site they are on now NO THANKS! tabby67
  • Score: 20

7:28am Sat 30 Aug 14

359282 says...

There is no chance of an appeal being turned down until the borough has enough gypsy sites. All darlington has to do is build a municipal site with enough places. That way we will be able to direct exactly where the site will be, rather than the current situation where we are simply hostages to fortune.
There is no chance of an appeal being turned down until the borough has enough gypsy sites. All darlington has to do is build a municipal site with enough places. That way we will be able to direct exactly where the site will be, rather than the current situation where we are simply hostages to fortune. 359282
  • Score: 14

8:43am Sat 30 Aug 14

stupid73 says...

This is getting riduculous! The site on Snipe lane is already massive and if they start on the other side of the road it will grow even further. Question - How many gypsy sites does Nothallerton have? None - so why does Darlington have to have so many??

The view of this site from the East Coast mainline is terrible - a great first impression of this town.
This is getting riduculous! The site on Snipe lane is already massive and if they start on the other side of the road it will grow even further. Question - How many gypsy sites does Nothallerton have? None - so why does Darlington have to have so many?? The view of this site from the East Coast mainline is terrible - a great first impression of this town. stupid73
  • Score: 25

1:22pm Sat 30 Aug 14

JJ2000 says...

This isn't a town anymore.
No spirit, no soul and no hope.
Poor leadership = poor results.
This isn't a town anymore. No spirit, no soul and no hope. Poor leadership = poor results. JJ2000
  • Score: 22

7:54am Sun 31 Aug 14

darloboss says...

A number of conditions were imposed on the site, including restrictions on the number and type of caravans occupying the site to prevent any commercial activities from taking place
The same conditions were placed on a site near me after the traveller won an appeal last year no more than 3 caravans and no commecial activity
day after a challet 4 caravans on site 8 big vans various carts and the burning of plastic roofing / guttering every night the place was once a pleasant green field now its a tip instead of giving written conditions could they not be done in picture form so that these travellers understand then can we have the same enfocement as the car drivers have to put up with in darlington
A number of conditions were imposed on the site, including restrictions on the number and type of caravans occupying the site to prevent any commercial activities from taking place The same conditions were placed on a site near me after the traveller won an appeal last year no more than 3 caravans and no commecial activity day after a challet 4 caravans on site 8 big vans various carts and the burning of plastic roofing / guttering every night the place was once a pleasant green field now its a tip instead of giving written conditions could they not be done in picture form so that these travellers understand then can we have the same enfocement as the car drivers have to put up with in darlington darloboss
  • Score: 22

11:24am Sun 31 Aug 14

English lad says...

Moved away from DIddy coy darlo 10 years ago and wouldn't dream of moving back !
Moved away from DIddy coy darlo 10 years ago and wouldn't dream of moving back ! English lad
  • Score: 14

11:24am Sun 31 Aug 14

Rover13 says...

More cretens taking over once pleasant areas, Darlington is becoming not very pleasant for people who pay their dues to society.
More cretens taking over once pleasant areas, Darlington is becoming not very pleasant for people who pay their dues to society. Rover13
  • Score: 17

5:03pm Sun 31 Aug 14

loan_star says...

What I can't understand is Ms Crosby says the Neasham Road site is unsuitable (proper gypsy site with facilities for the users) yet an open field will be? She's more of a nutjob than Dixon.
What I can't understand is Ms Crosby says the Neasham Road site is unsuitable (proper gypsy site with facilities for the users) yet an open field will be? She's more of a nutjob than Dixon. loan_star
  • Score: 18

8:20pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Border Terrier says...

My mate had to travel down south to a company business meeting.
Over a few drinks one of his southern colleagues asked him, where abouts in the North he was from. Darlington was his reply. Oh he said "Isnt that the Gypsy town"
My mate had to travel down south to a company business meeting. Over a few drinks one of his southern colleagues asked him, where abouts in the North he was from. Darlington was his reply. Oh he said "Isnt that the Gypsy town" Border Terrier
  • Score: 12

12:52pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Robinson9 says...

Like we dont have enough gypos in this town already.... sooner or later people of the town will realise that they are nothing but trouble and things need to change before its to late!! 9 out 10 gypos want nothing more than to cause trouble and they no they'll get away with it because they are all backed up by eachother and use the discrimation/racial card
Like we dont have enough gypos in this town already.... sooner or later people of the town will realise that they are nothing but trouble and things need to change before its to late!! 9 out 10 gypos want nothing more than to cause trouble and they no they'll get away with it because they are all backed up by eachother and use the discrimation/racial card Robinson9
  • Score: 11

1:23pm Tue 2 Sep 14

hogworth says...

What puzzles me is why did the travellers first come to Darlington years ago, what attracted them?
What puzzles me is why did the travellers first come to Darlington years ago, what attracted them? hogworth
  • Score: 3

9:40pm Tue 2 Sep 14

g10001 says...

tabby67 wrote:
What a JOKE now lets see how long this thread will last before it is taken down!
Yesterday I saw a bus driving down my street and 2 young (about 12) gypo lads on bikes riding in front of it and wouldn't budge to let the bus past and they were giving the bus driver the thumbs up and 2 fingers and thought it was funny!
They wonder they are not liked! So she will move on that site and more will replace them on the site they are on now NO THANKS!
Everyone is latching on to the Echo now - as you say and iv stated before this will probably be one of the most commented threads but the Echo will do its usual trick and remove it at the bidding no doubt of DBC - Expect wheelie bin Wallace and Bill Dixon to be up to their usual tricks persecuting the majority of Darlington residents for minor infringments - bin lid up 2" minor parking offences etc while ignoring major infringements such as Darloboss recites -nothing changes the Kenny Rogers song 'coward of the county' could have been written for DBC bosses and the Echo - get used to it its only going to get worse !
[quote][p][bold]tabby67[/bold] wrote: What a JOKE now lets see how long this thread will last before it is taken down! Yesterday I saw a bus driving down my street and 2 young (about 12) gypo lads on bikes riding in front of it and wouldn't budge to let the bus past and they were giving the bus driver the thumbs up and 2 fingers and thought it was funny! They wonder they are not liked! So she will move on that site and more will replace them on the site they are on now NO THANKS![/p][/quote]Everyone is latching on to the Echo now - as you say and iv stated before this will probably be one of the most commented threads but the Echo will do its usual trick and remove it at the bidding no doubt of DBC - Expect wheelie bin Wallace and Bill Dixon to be up to their usual tricks persecuting the majority of Darlington residents for minor infringments - bin lid up 2" minor parking offences etc while ignoring major infringements such as Darloboss recites -nothing changes the Kenny Rogers song 'coward of the county' could have been written for DBC bosses and the Echo - get used to it its only going to get worse ! g10001
  • Score: 4

12:11pm Wed 3 Sep 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

Must be nice if you can just rock up on a nice piece of land and claim it for yourself. I might give it a go and see what happens. If I'm hauled before a court I'll just say I'm a traveler and the land will be gifted to me.
Must be nice if you can just rock up on a nice piece of land and claim it for yourself. I might give it a go and see what happens. If I'm hauled before a court I'll just say I'm a traveler and the land will be gifted to me. thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth
  • Score: 1

1:35pm Wed 3 Sep 14

ianh says...

This is a disapointing decision by the Planning Inspector. The area has been inundated with similar applications over recent years and you can guarantee that the Conditions attached to the Consent will be ignored.
But in reality you cannot blame DBC for this decision. They (correctly in my view) refused this application. That refusal was appealed to the Inspectorate who overturned DBCs decision. Anybody with any understanding of these matters will know that DBC will have had to expend time and money defending their original decision.
I note no mention was made of the additional plots to be made available to Gypsys at their Neasham Road site. When complete these will meet all of the quota DBC are required to make available.
It is therefore the Inspectorate who are to blame in this instance.
This is a disapointing decision by the Planning Inspector. The area has been inundated with similar applications over recent years and you can guarantee that the Conditions attached to the Consent will be ignored. But in reality you cannot blame DBC for this decision. They (correctly in my view) refused this application. That refusal was appealed to the Inspectorate who overturned DBCs decision. Anybody with any understanding of these matters will know that DBC will have had to expend time and money defending their original decision. I note no mention was made of the additional plots to be made available to Gypsys at their Neasham Road site. When complete these will meet all of the quota DBC are required to make available. It is therefore the Inspectorate who are to blame in this instance. ianh
  • Score: 0
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