Plans to relocate bus stops and improve coach facilities revealed by council

BUS PLANS: Bus stops from Tubwell Row could be relocated outside the town hall, with the retaining wall replaced by steps for better access

BUS PLANS: Bus stops from Tubwell Row could be relocated outside the town hall, with the retaining wall replaced by steps for better access

First published in News

PLANS to create better coach and bus facilities in Darlington town centre as part of the Feethams development project are set to be discussed by councillors.

The improvements to bus and coach waiting areas in the town will form part of the redevelopment of the south of the town centre, in particular the new Department for Education building and the cinema and leisure development.

It is hoped the scheme will reduce congestion in Tubwell Row, offer better bus facilities for the new cinema development and improve waiting facilities for all coach and bus passengers.

Funding for the improvement scheme, which will be presented to councillors at a meeting of Darlington Borough Council’s full council on Thursday, will come from the Tees Valley Bus Network Improvement fund and from the council’s own capital budget.

Among the proposals put forward by the council is a plan to move the bus stops from outside the Joseph Pease pub on Tubwell Row to outside the town hall.

The council’s market research found that most people in town were positive about bus facilities but that the majority of negative responses related to bus stops in Prebend Row and Tubwell Row.

Some bus stops were reallocated to reduce congestion in Prebend Row earlier this year, with the relocation of stops from Tubwell Row to the town hall intended to have the same impact.

To create more space for the new bus stops and to improve access to the council’s customer services facility, the wall outside the town hall will be replaced with steps.

As well as changes to bus facilities, the council has also proposed to improve the waiting area for coach passengers opposite the town hall by creating a seating area protected from the elements.

The market research carried out by the council found that most people thought the coach stop was in the right place, but more than half thought its facilities were poor.

If the proposals are agreed by councillors, the work must be completed by April next year, before the funding expires.

The report prepared for council said: “The interest in development of the Feethams area is growing with the DfE office development and the anticipated leisure development.

“There are however several infrastructure improvements identified as required in order to realise the vision for Feethams. The design and construction of the bus and coach passenger waiting facilities improvements project will contribute towards this aim.”

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1:28pm Sat 12 Jul 14

grandmab says...

I wonder how many people were actually surveyed on this? The real need is for a bus station. I'll bet most of the people asked told them that.
I wonder how many people were actually surveyed on this? The real need is for a bus station. I'll bet most of the people asked told them that. grandmab
  • Score: 28

2:25pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Darloresident says...

we are still awaiting positive news on the cinema development - every 6 months someone pops up to say wont be long now but still as I understand not a contract signed nor an approved plan... I think the townsfolk would prefer a bus station but at least this proposal goes some way to recognising and dealing with the town centre transport issues.
As usual people of Darlington though - dont hold your breath
we are still awaiting positive news on the cinema development - every 6 months someone pops up to say wont be long now but still as I understand not a contract signed nor an approved plan... I think the townsfolk would prefer a bus station but at least this proposal goes some way to recognising and dealing with the town centre transport issues. As usual people of Darlington though - dont hold your breath Darloresident
  • Score: 13

3:27pm Sat 12 Jul 14

hogworth says...

Hopefully the proposed steps outside the town hall will be greatly improved on those on High Row.
Hopefully the proposed steps outside the town hall will be greatly improved on those on High Row. hogworth
  • Score: 7

8:04pm Sat 12 Jul 14

joeninety says...

Something desperately needs doing about the bus stops in Northgate. Many a time nearly 10 buses are trying to find a spot. Why do the buses from out of town stop there, yet don't pick up?
It also doesn't help when many of the in town services seem to have a daily knack of running two buses on the same route together. The idea of terminating all routes in town certainly has improved the service.
Something desperately needs doing about the bus stops in Northgate. Many a time nearly 10 buses are trying to find a spot. Why do the buses from out of town stop there, yet don't pick up? It also doesn't help when many of the in town services seem to have a daily knack of running two buses on the same route together. The idea of terminating all routes in town certainly has improved the service. joeninety
  • Score: 4

8:40pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Thetraveller says...

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the same Darlington Council that justified not replacing the town's former bus station by saying Feethams was too far away from the town centre ...and now they want to move the existing bus stands to ...Feethams! Why can't they work with a developer to include a proper bus station from the outset? So many other towns have managed it, the people keep on asking for it, but no, Darlington stick with street bus stands offering little or no protection from the elements and reshuffle the service pick-up points around every few months to make it even more confusing. No wonder people shop in Middlesbrough instead, with or without a car.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the same Darlington Council that justified not replacing the town's former bus station by saying Feethams was too far away from the town centre ...and now they want to move the existing bus stands to ...Feethams! Why can't they work with a developer to include a proper bus station from the outset? So many other towns have managed it, the people keep on asking for it, but no, Darlington stick with street bus stands offering little or no protection from the elements and reshuffle the service pick-up points around every few months to make it even more confusing. No wonder people shop in Middlesbrough instead, with or without a car. Thetraveller
  • Score: 12

10:01pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Awake-in-Darlo says...

Thetraveller wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the same Darlington Council that justified not replacing the town's former bus station by saying Feethams was too far away from the town centre ...and now they want to move the existing bus stands to ...Feethams! Why can't they work with a developer to include a proper bus station from the outset? So many other towns have managed it, the people keep on asking for it, but no, Darlington stick with street bus stands offering little or no protection from the elements and reshuffle the service pick-up points around every few months to make it even more confusing. No wonder people shop in Middlesbrough instead, with or without a car.
Agree, I remember being told the same quite clearly by a councillor a few years back. It worked to have stops along the old High Row and both sides of the road on Northgate , everyone could access all shops and markets, not far to carry shopping home. The old bus station was fine for coaches and the rest. Who said "if it works don`t try to fix it" ? The bus services have been a huge nightmare (for drivers AND passengers) ever since the changes to High Row and so-called pedestrianisation of the town. The truth is that without a proper bus station there`s no going back and no way forward. Just like being sat on a bus on Tubwell Row.
[quote][p][bold]Thetraveller[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the same Darlington Council that justified not replacing the town's former bus station by saying Feethams was too far away from the town centre ...and now they want to move the existing bus stands to ...Feethams! Why can't they work with a developer to include a proper bus station from the outset? So many other towns have managed it, the people keep on asking for it, but no, Darlington stick with street bus stands offering little or no protection from the elements and reshuffle the service pick-up points around every few months to make it even more confusing. No wonder people shop in Middlesbrough instead, with or without a car.[/p][/quote]Agree, I remember being told the same quite clearly by a councillor a few years back. It worked to have stops along the old High Row and both sides of the road on Northgate , everyone could access all shops and markets, not far to carry shopping home. The old bus station was fine for coaches and the rest. Who said "if it works don`t try to fix it" ? The bus services have been a huge nightmare (for drivers AND passengers) ever since the changes to High Row and so-called pedestrianisation of the town. The truth is that without a proper bus station there`s no going back and no way forward. Just like being sat on a bus on Tubwell Row. Awake-in-Darlo
  • Score: 4

9:09am Sun 13 Jul 14

Jonn says...

The town centre is rediculously congested with buses. Get the bus stops away from Tubwell Row altogether and move to the Town Hall.
Some people may moan that they'll have to walk an extra 200 yards, after wandering around the town easily enough, but, they'll get used to it.
The town centre is rediculously congested with buses. Get the bus stops away from Tubwell Row altogether and move to the Town Hall. Some people may moan that they'll have to walk an extra 200 yards, after wandering around the town easily enough, but, they'll get used to it. Jonn
  • Score: 5

10:15am Sun 13 Jul 14

Spy Boy says...

Thetraveller wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the same Darlington Council that justified not replacing the town's former bus station by saying Feethams was too far away from the town centre ...and now they want to move the existing bus stands to ...Feethams! Why can't they work with a developer to include a proper bus station from the outset? So many other towns have managed it, the people keep on asking for it, but no, Darlington stick with street bus stands offering little or no protection from the elements and reshuffle the service pick-up points around every few months to make it even more confusing. No wonder people shop in Middlesbrough instead, with or without a car.
You have to remember that the hard of thinking council change their cover stories daily to suit the argument to hand. This is yet another reason that I will never vote for them. The old saying goes 'If you are to be a good liar, you need a good memory.' This lot are about the same as a goldfish.

Why can't facilities be provided on the ground floor of the new car park? Toilets etc. This would be a big improvement for the passengers. They could also widen the road on the Town Hall side to make bus parks.
[quote][p][bold]Thetraveller[/bold] wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the same Darlington Council that justified not replacing the town's former bus station by saying Feethams was too far away from the town centre ...and now they want to move the existing bus stands to ...Feethams! Why can't they work with a developer to include a proper bus station from the outset? So many other towns have managed it, the people keep on asking for it, but no, Darlington stick with street bus stands offering little or no protection from the elements and reshuffle the service pick-up points around every few months to make it even more confusing. No wonder people shop in Middlesbrough instead, with or without a car.[/p][/quote]You have to remember that the hard of thinking council change their cover stories daily to suit the argument to hand. This is yet another reason that I will never vote for them. The old saying goes 'If you are to be a good liar, you need a good memory.' This lot are about the same as a goldfish. Why can't facilities be provided on the ground floor of the new car park? Toilets etc. This would be a big improvement for the passengers. They could also widen the road on the Town Hall side to make bus parks. Spy Boy
  • Score: 3

12:24pm Sun 13 Jul 14

loan_star says...

Typical DBC
Inner ring road - lets pave over some lanes we don't need them. A few years later and look whats happening, those very same lanes are reappearing to ease congestion!!!
Bus Stops - Feethams is too far for people to walk......... Need I say more?
Typical DBC Inner ring road - lets pave over some lanes we don't need them. A few years later and look whats happening, those very same lanes are reappearing to ease congestion!!! Bus Stops - Feethams is too far for people to walk......... Need I say more? loan_star
  • Score: -1

1:06pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Homshaw1 says...

Why should steps outside the Town Hall be financed out of the Tees Valley Bus Network Improvement Fund?

Moving the stands is nothing to do with improving services to the bus user but everything to do with providing a scant excuse to rifle a fund set up to provide real improvements for passengers and using it to tart up the Town Hall.

This is a disgrace and the people responsible for administering this fund should be held to account.
Why should steps outside the Town Hall be financed out of the Tees Valley Bus Network Improvement Fund? Moving the stands is nothing to do with improving services to the bus user but everything to do with providing a scant excuse to rifle a fund set up to provide real improvements for passengers and using it to tart up the Town Hall. This is a disgrace and the people responsible for administering this fund should be held to account. Homshaw1
  • Score: 9

5:53pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Ia2861 says...

Totally agree with Homshaw1.
Totally agree with Homshaw1. Ia2861
  • Score: 3

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