"Welcome to Darlington - we don't want you or your customers in our empty town" - anonymous fly-poster targets North-East town

"Welcome to Darlington - we don't want you or your customers in our empty town" - anonymous fly-poster targets North-East town

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First published in News

A DISGRUNTLED resident has plastered a North-East town with posters attacking its council for their parking policies.

Posters spotted across Darlington recently accuse the local authority of creating a ghost town and damaging trade.

The anonymous protestor has created a variety of signs, all illustrated with a picture of a parking ticket.

One says “Welcome to Darlington, we don’t want you or your customers in our empty town” while another says “Welcome to Darlington, we love empty shops”.

A more detailed – and laminated – version found pinned to the Old English Gentleman pub on Bondgate said: “Welcome to Darlington. Darlington Council loves empty shops, Darlington Council hates vehicles, hates customers, hates business. Traffic warden *** is helping make their dreams of a ghost town come true.”

Council leader Bill Dixon described the posters as cowardly and criticised the attack on the individual traffic warden.

He said: “As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East.

“We’ve got enough town centre parking at present. Parking wardens have instructions and take ten minutes to issue a ticket. Where possible, they ask people to move but if someone’s parked illegally, what can they do?

“They might not get it right every time but there’s an appeals procedure for that and they’re human beings like everyone else.”

He added: “This person is running their town centre down which doesn’t help anybody here.

“We have the best performing town centre in the North-East and some of our traders are turning against it and that’s sad.

“This kind of fly-posting is the last thing people need to see and it gives the wrong impression.”

Local trader Beryl Hankin, from the Guru boutique, has been lobbying the council to improve parking for years but says this approach could put more people off visiting the town.

She said: “It smacks of desperation and is probably someone who feels this is the only way to get their message across but it’s not great for the town in general.

“Since pedestrianisation, there’s been a noticeable detrimental difference – if you can’t get cars in, it effects trade.

“Vehicle access is vital to a town’s success. The multi-storey car park being built will help but it will take a long time and a lot of little businesses can’t hold on until then.”

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7:20am Sat 28 Jun 14

George1965 says...

He or she may have a point. It's a dirty unwelcoming place. The Carr park behind Queens Arcade is a disgrace, the 1 on the old Skippers site is positively dangerous, the rest apart rom the Cornmill I wouldn't park in. More of these protest are required, but there again Puffin Billy and Ada "overpaid" Burns won't listen. They NEVER do.
Oh and surprise surprise The Northen Echo won't allow comments on Neasham Road Traveller site extension either. Why? Please answer that question Mr Barron
He or she may have a point. It's a dirty unwelcoming place. The Carr park behind Queens Arcade is a disgrace, the 1 on the old Skippers site is positively dangerous, the rest apart rom the Cornmill I wouldn't park in. More of these protest are required, but there again Puffin Billy and Ada "overpaid" Burns won't listen. They NEVER do. Oh and surprise surprise The Northen Echo won't allow comments on Neasham Road Traveller site extension either. Why? Please answer that question Mr Barron George1965
  • Score: 97

7:33am Sat 28 Jun 14

stupid73 says...

I don't get the whole car parking issue. I have never had a problem parking in town, the cornmill car park always has spaces.

With regards the Neasham Road Traveller site. Never mind the 20 extra pitches here, what about the gypsy town being built on the other side of the road near the East Coast line. Is there even planning for this site? It's massive - it gives a great first impression for any visitor arriving by train!!!!
I don't get the whole car parking issue. I have never had a problem parking in town, the cornmill car park always has spaces. With regards the Neasham Road Traveller site. Never mind the 20 extra pitches here, what about the gypsy town being built on the other side of the road near the East Coast line. Is there even planning for this site? It's massive - it gives a great first impression for any visitor arriving by train!!!! stupid73
  • Score: 75

7:45am Sat 28 Jun 14

Darloresident says...

I despair.. I really do.. Bill Dixon in denial as usual. Look around sir and see the amount of empty commercial premises in woodlands rd,queen st arcade,northgate and the cornmill centre.Then look at the amount of bookies and charity shops that have spawned over the last 5 years.I dont know where you get your figures from regarding lowest vacant premises in the North East.Please can you explain how you come to arrive at this conclusion? I am sure Yarm and maybe Durham may have something to say on your comments regarding occupancy levels.
Why not listen to the message for once and stop doing a Nero?? Parking charges are too high and too inflexible.Wardens are out in force and enforce the rules with vigour causing animosity and resentment from traders and public alike..Admit the charges are regarded by you as a cash cow for the council and are off limits for discussion.
Mays elections cant come soon enough - I hope you are trounced and we can get a more open minded listening council in charge rather than the lazy incompetent self serving and feckless lot who are running the show now,
I despair.. I really do.. Bill Dixon in denial as usual. Look around sir and see the amount of empty commercial premises in woodlands rd,queen st arcade,northgate and the cornmill centre.Then look at the amount of bookies and charity shops that have spawned over the last 5 years.I dont know where you get your figures from regarding lowest vacant premises in the North East.Please can you explain how you come to arrive at this conclusion? I am sure Yarm and maybe Durham may have something to say on your comments regarding occupancy levels. Why not listen to the message for once and stop doing a Nero?? Parking charges are too high and too inflexible.Wardens are out in force and enforce the rules with vigour causing animosity and resentment from traders and public alike..Admit the charges are regarded by you as a cash cow for the council and are off limits for discussion. Mays elections cant come soon enough - I hope you are trounced and we can get a more open minded listening council in charge rather than the lazy incompetent self serving and feckless lot who are running the show now, Darloresident
  • Score: 108

7:52am Sat 28 Jun 14

Copley23 says...

What a shame that this is the only way someone can make themselves heard. For weeks and months, folk have been saying how DBC (Dixon) is not listening......maybe this is the only way.

Listening now aint'cha Bill.
What a shame that this is the only way someone can make themselves heard. For weeks and months, folk have been saying how DBC (Dixon) is not listening......maybe this is the only way. Listening now aint'cha Bill. Copley23
  • Score: 86

8:03am Sat 28 Jun 14

Triglet says...

incompednce iresponible day lite wrobbery &ilitracy skills needed to wrun the town apply within £110.000 +massive pension
incompednce iresponible day lite wrobbery &ilitracy skills needed to wrun the town apply within £110.000 +massive pension Triglet
  • Score: 24

8:08am Sat 28 Jun 14

stupid73 says...

Triglet wrote:
incompednce iresponible day lite wrobbery &ilitracy skills needed to wrun the town apply within £110.000 +massive pension
EH?
[quote][p][bold]Triglet[/bold] wrote: incompednce iresponible day lite wrobbery &ilitracy skills needed to wrun the town apply within £110.000 +massive pension[/p][/quote]EH? stupid73
  • Score: 16

8:20am Sat 28 Jun 14

Jonn says...

Putting politics aside for one moment.....
Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it?
There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough.
Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.
Putting politics aside for one moment..... Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it? There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough. Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet. Jonn
  • Score: 13

8:22am Sat 28 Jun 14

darloboss says...

its no good blameing dixon his hands are tied he can only do what the travellers allow him to do
ever seen a white transit with a parking ticket on it ?
its no good blameing dixon his hands are tied he can only do what the travellers allow him to do ever seen a white transit with a parking ticket on it ? darloboss
  • Score: 82

8:39am Sat 28 Jun 14

stupid73 says...

Jonn wrote:
Putting politics aside for one moment.....
Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it?
There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough.
Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.
Your wasting your time Jonn, the half a dozen trolls on here just love to bash Darlington's council given any opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Putting politics aside for one moment..... Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it? There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough. Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.[/p][/quote]Your wasting your time Jonn, the half a dozen trolls on here just love to bash Darlington's council given any opportunity. stupid73
  • Score: -13

9:08am Sat 28 Jun 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

This has become a filthy town, bins overflowing everywhere, chavs and Gypsys wherever you go. Anti-car/Pro-bus policies. They've all led to the demise of the town. And I don't just mean the town center either. And Billy Boy Dixon and Co. are certainly responsible for it.
This has become a filthy town, bins overflowing everywhere, chavs and Gypsys wherever you go. Anti-car/Pro-bus policies. They've all led to the demise of the town. And I don't just mean the town center either. And Billy Boy Dixon and Co. are certainly responsible for it. thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth
  • Score: 67

9:11am Sat 28 Jun 14

George1965 says...

Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance. George1965
  • Score: 0

9:38am Sat 28 Jun 14

stupid73 says...

George1965 wrote:
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling.

Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me.

Surely more productive than trolling??
[quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling. Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me. Surely more productive than trolling?? stupid73
  • Score: -2

9:46am Sat 28 Jun 14

Mistake says...

“As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East." Taken a walk down Post House Wynd lately Bill? at least 5 units up to let.
“As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East." Taken a walk down Post House Wynd lately Bill? at least 5 units up to let. Mistake
  • Score: 44

10:58am Sat 28 Jun 14

Jonn says...

Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like?
Just asking out of interest?
Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like? Just asking out of interest? Jonn
  • Score: 13

11:00am Sat 28 Jun 14

Jonn says...

Mistake wrote:
“As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East." Taken a walk down Post House Wynd lately Bill? at least 5 units up to let.
So, just like most other towns then. Or do you not get out much?
[quote][p][bold]Mistake[/bold] wrote: “As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East." Taken a walk down Post House Wynd lately Bill? at least 5 units up to let.[/p][/quote]So, just like most other towns then. Or do you not get out much? Jonn
  • Score: -17

11:13am Sat 28 Jun 14

Liamsm says...

He said: “As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East.........T
hat is a very mixed message!! The lowest rate of vacant SHOPS!! Premises would have been a better word to use! The town is saturated with empty premises look at the mess that office block is opposite commercial street car park. Darlington might have the lowest rate of shops empty in the north east if it is calculated as a number because we do not have lots of shops, however if it is worked out as a percentage it is fact that Darlington has one if the highest in the NorthEast......to be honest one of the highest in the UK.


Copy the below link into your browser MR Dixon

http://www.rightmove
.co.uk/commercial-pr
operty-to-let/Darlin
gton.html

Quite a few one thinks for a small market town!
He said: “As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East.........T hat is a very mixed message!! The lowest rate of vacant SHOPS!! Premises would have been a better word to use! The town is saturated with empty premises look at the mess that office block is opposite commercial street car park. Darlington might have the lowest rate of shops empty in the north east if it is calculated as a number because we do not have lots of shops, however if it is worked out as a percentage it is fact that Darlington has one if the highest in the NorthEast......to be honest one of the highest in the UK. Copy the below link into your browser MR Dixon http://www.rightmove .co.uk/commercial-pr operty-to-let/Darlin gton.html Quite a few one thinks for a small market town! Liamsm
  • Score: 19

11:21am Sat 28 Jun 14

loan_star says...

One of the lads I work with got a ticket yesterday. He was working on some shop fitting in the market hall and needed his van parked close by to load and unload items. He got a ticket because he was away from the van for too long between loads. Now it seems like its illegal to go about genuine business without worrying about these ticket happy people decorating vehicles.
Yet every time theres a service on at the traveller church they park on the double yellow lines and two wheels on the pavement, contravening two different parking rules and yet NEVER get a ticket.
One of the lads I work with got a ticket yesterday. He was working on some shop fitting in the market hall and needed his van parked close by to load and unload items. He got a ticket because he was away from the van for too long between loads. Now it seems like its illegal to go about genuine business without worrying about these ticket happy people decorating vehicles. Yet every time theres a service on at the traveller church they park on the double yellow lines and two wheels on the pavement, contravening two different parking rules and yet NEVER get a ticket. loan_star
  • Score: 71

11:41am Sat 28 Jun 14

bones26 says...

stupid73 wrote:
George1965 wrote:
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling.

Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me.

Surely more productive than trolling??
shouldnt mr dixon be doing the job he is getting paid for at the council rather than looking at his personal facebook account during working hours and replying to individuals who contact him through facebook .hope he clocked out and clocked back in again while doing personal work in council time .
[quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling. Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me. Surely more productive than trolling??[/p][/quote]shouldnt mr dixon be doing the job he is getting paid for at the council rather than looking at his personal facebook account during working hours and replying to individuals who contact him through facebook .hope he clocked out and clocked back in again while doing personal work in council time . bones26
  • Score: -6

11:51am Sat 28 Jun 14

Mistake says...

Jonn wrote:
Mistake wrote:
“As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East." Taken a walk down Post House Wynd lately Bill? at least 5 units up to let.
So, just like most other towns then. Or do you not get out much?
No I don't get out much, given how I am borderline agoraphobic and can't go out alone but:

I didn't suggest it's not a problem elsewhere, I just dislike that the council doesn't seem interested in addressing the problem. Stating that we have few empty shops gives the impression that Bill doesn't consider there to be a problem to fix.

Furthermore things like the BID levy just make it that little bit harder for small businesses already struggling to stay afloat and the noticeable reduction in footfall in key areas of the town shows that shoppers are choosing to spend their money elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mistake[/bold] wrote: “As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East." Taken a walk down Post House Wynd lately Bill? at least 5 units up to let.[/p][/quote]So, just like most other towns then. Or do you not get out much?[/p][/quote]No I don't get out much, given how I am borderline agoraphobic and can't go out alone but: I didn't suggest it's not a problem elsewhere, I just dislike that the council doesn't seem interested in addressing the problem. Stating that we have few empty shops gives the impression that Bill doesn't consider there to be a problem to fix. Furthermore things like the BID levy just make it that little bit harder for small businesses already struggling to stay afloat and the noticeable reduction in footfall in key areas of the town shows that shoppers are choosing to spend their money elsewhere. Mistake
  • Score: 5

11:58am Sat 28 Jun 14

punkrocker says...

This could also apply to Bishop Auckland. Traffic (little Hitlers) Wardens every where. No wonder so many empty shops. SAD
This could also apply to Bishop Auckland. Traffic (little Hitlers) Wardens every where. No wonder so many empty shops. SAD punkrocker
  • Score: 11

12:02pm Sat 28 Jun 14

stupid73 says...

bones26 wrote:
stupid73 wrote:
George1965 wrote:
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling.

Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me.

Surely more productive than trolling??
shouldnt mr dixon be doing the job he is getting paid for at the council rather than looking at his personal facebook account during working hours and replying to individuals who contact him through facebook .hope he clocked out and clocked back in again while doing personal work in council time .
Erm because it is a Saturday ....troll
[quote][p][bold]bones26[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling. Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me. Surely more productive than trolling??[/p][/quote]shouldnt mr dixon be doing the job he is getting paid for at the council rather than looking at his personal facebook account during working hours and replying to individuals who contact him through facebook .hope he clocked out and clocked back in again while doing personal work in council time .[/p][/quote]Erm because it is a Saturday ....troll stupid73
  • Score: 6

12:19pm Sat 28 Jun 14

spragger says...

Activism over the political mafia
What is not to like
The Labour party will ruin the town, walk away with impunity, leaving someone else to clear the mess up
What's new? Have a look at the countries economy
Activism over the political mafia What is not to like The Labour party will ruin the town, walk away with impunity, leaving someone else to clear the mess up What's new? Have a look at the countries economy spragger
  • Score: 14

12:22pm Sat 28 Jun 14

loan_star says...

spragger wrote:
Activism over the political mafia
What is not to like
The Labour party will ruin the town, walk away with impunity, leaving someone else to clear the mess up
What's new? Have a look at the countries economy
Labour won't walk away from Darlington because people keep voting them back in, no matter what mess they make. This gives them licence to do whatever they want whether the residents agree or not. But its all good because they are Labour and they can do no wrong in some peoples eyes.
[quote][p][bold]spragger[/bold] wrote: Activism over the political mafia What is not to like The Labour party will ruin the town, walk away with impunity, leaving someone else to clear the mess up What's new? Have a look at the countries economy[/p][/quote]Labour won't walk away from Darlington because people keep voting them back in, no matter what mess they make. This gives them licence to do whatever they want whether the residents agree or not. But its all good because they are Labour and they can do no wrong in some peoples eyes. loan_star
  • Score: 33

12:25pm Sat 28 Jun 14

spragger says...

Jonn wrote:
Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like?
Just asking out of interest?
People with a blue badge? Disabled or otherwise
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like? Just asking out of interest?[/p][/quote]People with a blue badge? Disabled or otherwise spragger
  • Score: 7

12:50pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Robert_ says...

stupid73 wrote:
George1965 wrote:
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling.

Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me.

Surely more productive than trolling??
What is it now labelling people on the internet with an opinion a 'troll'?

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion"

Calling someone with a different opinion to you a 'troll' is just lazy... and wrong.
[quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling. Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me. Surely more productive than trolling??[/p][/quote]What is it now labelling people on the internet with an opinion a 'troll'? "In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion" Calling someone with a different opinion to you a 'troll' is just lazy... and wrong. Robert_
  • Score: 29

12:52pm Sat 28 Jun 14

DarloXman says...

Jonn wrote:
Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like?
Just asking out of interest?
I am one of stupid73's trolls and one of your complainers - so I will answer your question.

I don't think anyone is saying you should be able to park illegally in Darlington - what the complaint is the cost of parking. Middlesbrough give the first 2 hours free, (or £1.30 for all day on Sunday), Stockton have 2 hours for £1, whereas Darlington is £1/hr. Both Middlesbrough and Stockton have a broader range of shops so Darlington is already the poorer relation - more expensive parking does mean people like myself are more likely to avoid Darlington.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like? Just asking out of interest?[/p][/quote]I am one of stupid73's trolls and one of your complainers - so I will answer your question. I don't think anyone is saying you should be able to park illegally in Darlington - what the complaint is the cost of parking. Middlesbrough give the first 2 hours free, (or £1.30 for all day on Sunday), Stockton have 2 hours for £1, whereas Darlington is £1/hr. Both Middlesbrough and Stockton have a broader range of shops so Darlington is already the poorer relation - more expensive parking does mean people like myself are more likely to avoid Darlington. DarloXman
  • Score: 26

1:03pm Sat 28 Jun 14

DarloXman says...

Robert_ wrote:
stupid73 wrote:
George1965 wrote:
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling.

Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me.

Surely more productive than trolling??
What is it now labelling people on the internet with an opinion a 'troll'?

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion"

Calling someone with a different opinion to you a 'troll' is just lazy... and wrong.
Well said.

I am sure stupid73 was including me as one of the "half a dozen trolls on here just love to bash Darlington's council given any opportunity."

I am 'guilty' of the charge of being vocal and critical of the poor performance I repeatedly see of Darlington Borough Council. When you say 'any opportunity' - they certainly give me plenty of opportunities to criticise.

I'm not on Facebook but perhaps I should get an account. Up to now I've used e-mail and the formal complaints procedure to report issues to the council - and certainly never had an immediate response - obvious Facebook is now the way to go!
[quote][p][bold]Robert_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling. Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me. Surely more productive than trolling??[/p][/quote]What is it now labelling people on the internet with an opinion a 'troll'? "In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion" Calling someone with a different opinion to you a 'troll' is just lazy... and wrong.[/p][/quote]Well said. I am sure stupid73 was including me as one of the "half a dozen trolls on here just love to bash Darlington's council given any opportunity." I am 'guilty' of the charge of being vocal and critical of the poor performance I repeatedly see of Darlington Borough Council. When you say 'any opportunity' - they certainly give me plenty of opportunities to criticise. I'm not on Facebook but perhaps I should get an account. Up to now I've used e-mail and the formal complaints procedure to report issues to the council - and certainly never had an immediate response - obvious Facebook is now the way to go! DarloXman
  • Score: 9

1:55pm Sat 28 Jun 14

theWorkerScum says...

Jonn wrote:
Putting politics aside for one moment.....
Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it?
There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough.
Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.
So i guess if every council does it then we must, seems like a very simplistic view of the situation. The fact is parking charges have not helped businesses in these difficult times and the council have done nothing to help, why? At the end of the day why have a local council if it doesn't act when required.
As for your comment about the internet, again very narrow view. Take a look at the car parks in Spennymoor and the business that's happening because of free parking. I'd say if they ever introduce charges there, that family run butchers and grocers next to the zerba crossing would quickly see trade slow down. Look at the development in St Helens (again free parking), might need to build another by-pass soon with the amount of traffic, or is that affected by the internet. I'd say your you need to get out more rather than come up with these wild assumptions.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Putting politics aside for one moment..... Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it? There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough. Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.[/p][/quote]So i guess if every council does it then we must, seems like a very simplistic view of the situation. The fact is parking charges have not helped businesses in these difficult times and the council have done nothing to help, why? At the end of the day why have a local council if it doesn't act when required. As for your comment about the internet, again very narrow view. Take a look at the car parks in Spennymoor and the business that's happening because of free parking. I'd say if they ever introduce charges there, that family run butchers and grocers next to the zerba crossing would quickly see trade slow down. Look at the development in St Helens (again free parking), might need to build another by-pass soon with the amount of traffic, or is that affected by the internet. I'd say your you need to get out more rather than come up with these wild assumptions. theWorkerScum
  • Score: 9

2:07pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Darloresident says...

DarloXman wrote:
Robert_ wrote:
stupid73 wrote:
George1965 wrote:
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling.

Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me.

Surely more productive than trolling??
What is it now labelling people on the internet with an opinion a 'troll'?

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion"

Calling someone with a different opinion to you a 'troll' is just lazy... and wrong.
Well said.

I am sure stupid73 was including me as one of the "half a dozen trolls on here just love to bash Darlington's council given any opportunity."

I am 'guilty' of the charge of being vocal and critical of the poor performance I repeatedly see of Darlington Borough Council. When you say 'any opportunity' - they certainly give me plenty of opportunities to criticise.

I'm not on Facebook but perhaps I should get an account. Up to now I've used e-mail and the formal complaints procedure to report issues to the council - and certainly never had an immediate response - obvious Facebook is now the way to go!
Stupid73 - Citizens in this country have a right and and I might say a duty to hold their elected peers to account.This is not Trolling this is participation in the democratic process .
I find it rather unsettling that you have managed on a saturday because you have facebook to contact Bill Dixon and have your issues attended to..
Proof if proof were needed that the vast majority of Darlington residents who do not have access to social media are at a disadvantage when it comes to having their voice heard..
Facebook and Twitter are NOT the way to service residents issues unless there is a published formal procedure for using them..
[quote][p][bold]DarloXman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robert_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling. Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me. Surely more productive than trolling??[/p][/quote]What is it now labelling people on the internet with an opinion a 'troll'? "In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion" Calling someone with a different opinion to you a 'troll' is just lazy... and wrong.[/p][/quote]Well said. I am sure stupid73 was including me as one of the "half a dozen trolls on here just love to bash Darlington's council given any opportunity." I am 'guilty' of the charge of being vocal and critical of the poor performance I repeatedly see of Darlington Borough Council. When you say 'any opportunity' - they certainly give me plenty of opportunities to criticise. I'm not on Facebook but perhaps I should get an account. Up to now I've used e-mail and the formal complaints procedure to report issues to the council - and certainly never had an immediate response - obvious Facebook is now the way to go![/p][/quote]Stupid73 - Citizens in this country have a right and and I might say a duty to hold their elected peers to account.This is not Trolling this is participation in the democratic process . I find it rather unsettling that you have managed on a saturday because you have facebook to contact Bill Dixon and have your issues attended to.. Proof if proof were needed that the vast majority of Darlington residents who do not have access to social media are at a disadvantage when it comes to having their voice heard.. Facebook and Twitter are NOT the way to service residents issues unless there is a published formal procedure for using them.. Darloresident
  • Score: 13

3:10pm Sat 28 Jun 14

behonest says...

darloboss wrote:
its no good blameing dixon his hands are tied he can only do what the travellers allow him to do
ever seen a white transit with a parking ticket on it ?
For once, I agree with you. Although is it 'he can only do what the travellers allow him to do' or he can only do what the travellers pay him to do?

Fair comment too, by George 1965: 'surprise surprise The Northern Echo won't allow comments on Neasham Road Traveller site extension either.'

It doesn't help the credibility of the press if, on the one hand, they complain about the government considering restricting their right to free speech and free reporting, then on the other hand the press then ban the public from making comments on certain stories that they publish. Perhaps Bill Dixon has 'influence' on Peter Barron too?
[quote][p][bold]darloboss[/bold] wrote: its no good blameing dixon his hands are tied he can only do what the travellers allow him to do ever seen a white transit with a parking ticket on it ?[/p][/quote]For once, I agree with you. Although is it 'he can only do what the travellers allow him to do' or he can only do what the travellers pay him to do? Fair comment too, by George 1965: 'surprise surprise The Northern Echo won't allow comments on Neasham Road Traveller site extension either.' It doesn't help the credibility of the press if, on the one hand, they complain about the government considering restricting their right to free speech and free reporting, then on the other hand the press then ban the public from making comments on certain stories that they publish. Perhaps Bill Dixon has 'influence' on Peter Barron too? behonest
  • Score: 29

4:29pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Jonn says...

theWorkerScum wrote:
Jonn wrote:
Putting politics aside for one moment.....
Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it?
There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough.
Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.
So i guess if every council does it then we must, seems like a very simplistic view of the situation. The fact is parking charges have not helped businesses in these difficult times and the council have done nothing to help, why? At the end of the day why have a local council if it doesn't act when required.
As for your comment about the internet, again very narrow view. Take a look at the car parks in Spennymoor and the business that's happening because of free parking. I'd say if they ever introduce charges there, that family run butchers and grocers next to the zerba crossing would quickly see trade slow down. Look at the development in St Helens (again free parking), might need to build another by-pass soon with the amount of traffic, or is that affected by the internet. I'd say your you need to get out more rather than come up with these wild assumptions.
It's not simplistic, it's just a fact, all councils and indeed Government, are milking motorists. The rights and wrongs of that are a different debate.
The Internet affecting the High Street is not a narrow view at all. Every year, the Internet takes more sales from the traditional High Street shops. It has very little to do with parking, it's cheaper, quicker and there's vastly more choice. It's the High Street, along with Councils, that need to adapt, sharpish.
[quote][p][bold]theWorkerScum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Putting politics aside for one moment..... Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it? There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough. Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.[/p][/quote]So i guess if every council does it then we must, seems like a very simplistic view of the situation. The fact is parking charges have not helped businesses in these difficult times and the council have done nothing to help, why? At the end of the day why have a local council if it doesn't act when required. As for your comment about the internet, again very narrow view. Take a look at the car parks in Spennymoor and the business that's happening because of free parking. I'd say if they ever introduce charges there, that family run butchers and grocers next to the zerba crossing would quickly see trade slow down. Look at the development in St Helens (again free parking), might need to build another by-pass soon with the amount of traffic, or is that affected by the internet. I'd say your you need to get out more rather than come up with these wild assumptions.[/p][/quote]It's not simplistic, it's just a fact, all councils and indeed Government, are milking motorists. The rights and wrongs of that are a different debate. The Internet affecting the High Street is not a narrow view at all. Every year, the Internet takes more sales from the traditional High Street shops. It has very little to do with parking, it's cheaper, quicker and there's vastly more choice. It's the High Street, along with Councils, that need to adapt, sharpish. Jonn
  • Score: 10

4:33pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Jonn says...

DarloXman wrote:
Jonn wrote:
Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like?
Just asking out of interest?
I am one of stupid73's trolls and one of your complainers - so I will answer your question.

I don't think anyone is saying you should be able to park illegally in Darlington - what the complaint is the cost of parking. Middlesbrough give the first 2 hours free, (or £1.30 for all day on Sunday), Stockton have 2 hours for £1, whereas Darlington is £1/hr. Both Middlesbrough and Stockton have a broader range of shops so Darlington is already the poorer relation - more expensive parking does mean people like myself are more likely to avoid Darlington.
So, you'd drive from Darlington to Middlesbrough or Stockton to save a £1 or £2 parking? It would cost you more than that in fuel, plus more of your own time.
[quote][p][bold]DarloXman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like? Just asking out of interest?[/p][/quote]I am one of stupid73's trolls and one of your complainers - so I will answer your question. I don't think anyone is saying you should be able to park illegally in Darlington - what the complaint is the cost of parking. Middlesbrough give the first 2 hours free, (or £1.30 for all day on Sunday), Stockton have 2 hours for £1, whereas Darlington is £1/hr. Both Middlesbrough and Stockton have a broader range of shops so Darlington is already the poorer relation - more expensive parking does mean people like myself are more likely to avoid Darlington.[/p][/quote]So, you'd drive from Darlington to Middlesbrough or Stockton to save a £1 or £2 parking? It would cost you more than that in fuel, plus more of your own time. Jonn
  • Score: 5

5:07pm Sat 28 Jun 14

calumannabel says...

Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE. calumannabel
  • Score: 19

5:13pm Sat 28 Jun 14

DarloXman says...

Jonn wrote:
DarloXman wrote:
Jonn wrote:
Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like?
Just asking out of interest?
I am one of stupid73's trolls and one of your complainers - so I will answer your question.

I don't think anyone is saying you should be able to park illegally in Darlington - what the complaint is the cost of parking. Middlesbrough give the first 2 hours free, (or £1.30 for all day on Sunday), Stockton have 2 hours for £1, whereas Darlington is £1/hr. Both Middlesbrough and Stockton have a broader range of shops so Darlington is already the poorer relation - more expensive parking does mean people like myself are more likely to avoid Darlington.
So, you'd drive from Darlington to Middlesbrough or Stockton to save a £1 or £2 parking? It would cost you more than that in fuel, plus more of your own time.
I live east of Darlington - so Stockton is equidistant and Boro just a little further but with a wider range of shops, the free parking seals the deal.

As to time, straight along the A66 is just as quick as along the A67/Yarm Road into the Town - especially at the moment with all the road works.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarloXman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like? Just asking out of interest?[/p][/quote]I am one of stupid73's trolls and one of your complainers - so I will answer your question. I don't think anyone is saying you should be able to park illegally in Darlington - what the complaint is the cost of parking. Middlesbrough give the first 2 hours free, (or £1.30 for all day on Sunday), Stockton have 2 hours for £1, whereas Darlington is £1/hr. Both Middlesbrough and Stockton have a broader range of shops so Darlington is already the poorer relation - more expensive parking does mean people like myself are more likely to avoid Darlington.[/p][/quote]So, you'd drive from Darlington to Middlesbrough or Stockton to save a £1 or £2 parking? It would cost you more than that in fuel, plus more of your own time.[/p][/quote]I live east of Darlington - so Stockton is equidistant and Boro just a little further but with a wider range of shops, the free parking seals the deal. As to time, straight along the A66 is just as quick as along the A67/Yarm Road into the Town - especially at the moment with all the road works. DarloXman
  • Score: 19

6:02pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Jonn says...

calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
[quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really. Jonn
  • Score: 2

6:06pm Sat 28 Jun 14

mike1952 says...

I was going to take the grandchildren to the Darlington Carnival today but the chew on with the parking I stopped in Richmond and took them to the local Fire Station Open Day. You can watch the traffic wardens circling in Darlington waiting to get their quota and the same is happening with over zealous wardens in Richmond. Just wait until the mini Teesside Park is built in Catterick and we do not need to go in to Darlington or Richmond unless it's to drop off our items at the Charity Shop.
I was going to take the grandchildren to the Darlington Carnival today but the chew on with the parking I stopped in Richmond and took them to the local Fire Station Open Day. You can watch the traffic wardens circling in Darlington waiting to get their quota and the same is happening with over zealous wardens in Richmond. Just wait until the mini Teesside Park is built in Catterick and we do not need to go in to Darlington or Richmond unless it's to drop off our items at the Charity Shop. mike1952
  • Score: 18

6:10pm Sat 28 Jun 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

stupid73 wrote:
George1965 wrote:
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling.

Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me.

Surely more productive than trolling??
You have a very twisted idea of what Tolling is.

Crank
[quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling. Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me. Surely more productive than trolling??[/p][/quote]You have a very twisted idea of what Tolling is. Crank thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth
  • Score: 2

6:29pm Sat 28 Jun 14

soulman2013 says...

Got to say I no longer think of going into the town centre as a pleasure and will avoid it at all costs due to over zealous traffic wardens & parking restrictions, as a fellow 'victim' as the 'poster person', shopping should not be restricted to 'the councils prescribed 'hours', other towns are cheaper, some like aycliffe are free, why can't you go shopping & pay for what you use instead of being penalised for being late back ?or trying to enjoy yourself in the town?, get carried away shopping? Thank goodness for internet shopping, car tax payment & banking , as well as getting tickets myself my daughter was particularly upset by the warden who used photographic evidence against her on a Sunday afternoon don't suppose I'm alone in not wanting to go into town?.....do EVERYONE a favour & make it FREE!!!
Got to say I no longer think of going into the town centre as a pleasure and will avoid it at all costs due to over zealous traffic wardens & parking restrictions, as a fellow 'victim' as the 'poster person', shopping should not be restricted to 'the councils prescribed 'hours', other towns are cheaper, some like aycliffe are free, why can't you go shopping & pay for what you use instead of being penalised for being late back ?or trying to enjoy yourself in the town?, get carried away shopping? Thank goodness for internet shopping, car tax payment & banking , as well as getting tickets myself my daughter was particularly upset by the warden who used photographic evidence against her on a Sunday afternoon don't suppose I'm alone in not wanting to go into town?.....do EVERYONE a favour & make it FREE!!! soulman2013
  • Score: 9

6:34pm Sat 28 Jun 14

darloboss says...

went into town today and braved the anti parking wardens to see the carnival

talk about a boot sale on legs it was pathetic i felt sorry for the kids taking part in it
that sums up darlington
ps the echo report of the carnival a couple of questions
A was there a reporter there

B was he she drunk or just wearing rose coloured glasses
went into town today and braved the anti parking wardens to see the carnival talk about a boot sale on legs it was pathetic i felt sorry for the kids taking part in it that sums up darlington ps the echo report of the carnival a couple of questions A was there a reporter there B was he she drunk or just wearing rose coloured glasses darloboss
  • Score: 3

6:49pm Sat 28 Jun 14

MSG says...

Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
30 mile round trip ??????????
Its 12 miles round trip from the boundary of Darlington to Teesside Park. The Darlington Borough boundary is just before Teesside Airport railway station, or Long Newton depending on what road you take. Therefore Teesside Park is easy to reach and park for free for the residents of Darlington Borough who are from the Middletons, Sadberge, the Staintons, Bishopton & Great Burdon Its only a coupe of miles more for Haughton & Eastbourne people !.

If you live on yon side of Darlo then you can go to the expanding Tindale Retail Park in Bishop and park for free.

Sack overpaid Burns & Dixon, then vote Labour out and replace them with UKIP in 2015.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.[/p][/quote]30 mile round trip ?????????? Its 12 miles round trip from the boundary of Darlington to Teesside Park. The Darlington Borough boundary is just before Teesside Airport railway station, or Long Newton depending on what road you take. Therefore Teesside Park is easy to reach and park for free for the residents of Darlington Borough who are from the Middletons, Sadberge, the Staintons, Bishopton & Great Burdon Its only a coupe of miles more for Haughton & Eastbourne people !. If you live on yon side of Darlo then you can go to the expanding Tindale Retail Park in Bishop and park for free. Sack overpaid Burns & Dixon, then vote Labour out and replace them with UKIP in 2015. MSG
  • Score: 4

7:26pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Jonn says...

MSG wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
30 mile round trip ??????????
Its 12 miles round trip from the boundary of Darlington to Teesside Park. The Darlington Borough boundary is just before Teesside Airport railway station, or Long Newton depending on what road you take. Therefore Teesside Park is easy to reach and park for free for the residents of Darlington Borough who are from the Middletons, Sadberge, the Staintons, Bishopton & Great Burdon Its only a coupe of miles more for Haughton & Eastbourne people !.

If you live on yon side of Darlo then you can go to the expanding Tindale Retail Park in Bishop and park for free.

Sack overpaid Burns & Dixon, then vote Labour out and replace them with UKIP in 2015.
Wow, how pedantic are you!
We are talking about Darlington town centre aren't we?
Google it. From Darlington town centre to Teesside Park, it's 13.5 miles or a 27 mile round trip. I was 3 miles out, shoot me!
What's so special about Teesside Park anyway? It's only the big chain shops which all sell online anyway... and it's like wandering around a soulless Industrial Estate.
[quote][p][bold]MSG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.[/p][/quote]30 mile round trip ?????????? Its 12 miles round trip from the boundary of Darlington to Teesside Park. The Darlington Borough boundary is just before Teesside Airport railway station, or Long Newton depending on what road you take. Therefore Teesside Park is easy to reach and park for free for the residents of Darlington Borough who are from the Middletons, Sadberge, the Staintons, Bishopton & Great Burdon Its only a coupe of miles more for Haughton & Eastbourne people !. If you live on yon side of Darlo then you can go to the expanding Tindale Retail Park in Bishop and park for free. Sack overpaid Burns & Dixon, then vote Labour out and replace them with UKIP in 2015.[/p][/quote]Wow, how pedantic are you! We are talking about Darlington town centre aren't we? Google it. From Darlington town centre to Teesside Park, it's 13.5 miles or a 27 mile round trip. I was 3 miles out, shoot me! What's so special about Teesside Park anyway? It's only the big chain shops which all sell online anyway... and it's like wandering around a soulless Industrial Estate. Jonn
  • Score: 10

7:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

D. Hop says...

Fair play to the person posting these fliers. Admittedly there's no need to single out 1 traffic warden. When the councillors don't listen what else are we to do? I'm all for a little revolution.......may
be someone will eventually get the point, but I doubt it.
Fair play to the person posting these fliers. Admittedly there's no need to single out 1 traffic warden. When the councillors don't listen what else are we to do? I'm all for a little revolution.......may be someone will eventually get the point, but I doubt it. D. Hop
  • Score: 15

8:16pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Got Ya says...

Am I the only one who thinks Ada Burns is lovely?
Am I the only one who thinks Ada Burns is lovely? Got Ya
  • Score: -6

9:31pm Sat 28 Jun 14

calumannabel says...

Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.[/p][/quote]People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel! calumannabel
  • Score: -1

9:32pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Awake-in-Darlo says...

darloboss wrote:
went into town today and braved the anti parking wardens to see the carnival

talk about a boot sale on legs it was pathetic i felt sorry for the kids taking part in it
that sums up darlington
ps the echo report of the carnival a couple of questions
A was there a reporter there

B was he she drunk or just wearing rose coloured glasses
Also went into Darlo to the carnival , but by bus. Which had to stop down Crown St as buses backed up in front of Marks`s as usual. Bus stop chaos.
Car park behind Queen Street should be a bus station or turning point for out-of-town services . As for the parade and carnival, was not even car boot sale as most stalls selling(or not) tombola tickets. Was not anybody dancing in the street either. Theme what theme ? Why not make carnival day a free parking day to help local shops ? Boost the market and have buskers, like some atmosphere !
[quote][p][bold]darloboss[/bold] wrote: went into town today and braved the anti parking wardens to see the carnival talk about a boot sale on legs it was pathetic i felt sorry for the kids taking part in it that sums up darlington ps the echo report of the carnival a couple of questions A was there a reporter there B was he she drunk or just wearing rose coloured glasses[/p][/quote]Also went into Darlo to the carnival , but by bus. Which had to stop down Crown St as buses backed up in front of Marks`s as usual. Bus stop chaos. Car park behind Queen Street should be a bus station or turning point for out-of-town services . As for the parade and carnival, was not even car boot sale as most stalls selling(or not) tombola tickets. Was not anybody dancing in the street either. Theme what theme ? Why not make carnival day a free parking day to help local shops ? Boost the market and have buskers, like some atmosphere ! Awake-in-Darlo
  • Score: 12

9:51pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Robert_ says...

If it wasn't for the cheap Sainsbury fuel I would avoid Darlo like the plague... can anyone name 1 good reason for someone outside the town to come in to the place?
If it wasn't for the cheap Sainsbury fuel I would avoid Darlo like the plague... can anyone name 1 good reason for someone outside the town to come in to the place? Robert_
  • Score: 12

10:15pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bambara says...

Shop vacancies are a problem across the entire country.
About 14% of shops on average last year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/business-24025
297

As ever the negative posters who always post attacks on the Labour council (without any actual fact or figures to back up the statements they make) are trying to blame a national issue on the local council.

Next time you are in the town, count the number of shops and see if the number of vacancies is more than the 1 in 7 national average.
Is it even close to the figure for the NorthWest which is 1 in 5?
Shop vacancies are a problem across the entire country. About 14% of shops on average last year. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/business-24025 297 As ever the negative posters who always post attacks on the Labour council (without any actual fact or figures to back up the statements they make) are trying to blame a national issue on the local council. Next time you are in the town, count the number of shops and see if the number of vacancies is more than the 1 in 7 national average. Is it even close to the figure for the NorthWest which is 1 in 5? bambara
  • Score: -1

10:25pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bambara says...

Robert_ wrote:
If it wasn't for the cheap Sainsbury fuel I would avoid Darlo like the plague... can anyone name 1 good reason for someone outside the town to come in to the place?
1. East Coast main line station (and parking with it, try parking near Durham Train station)

2. Swimming Baths & Leisure centre

3. Cinema

4. DIY & trade shops

5. Hospital

6. College(s)

7. Banks

8. Main dealer servicing and car showrooms

9. Work

10. Restraunts

...
[quote][p][bold]Robert_[/bold] wrote: If it wasn't for the cheap Sainsbury fuel I would avoid Darlo like the plague... can anyone name 1 good reason for someone outside the town to come in to the place?[/p][/quote]1. East Coast main line station (and parking with it, try parking near Durham Train station) 2. Swimming Baths & Leisure centre 3. Cinema 4. DIY & trade shops 5. Hospital 6. College(s) 7. Banks 8. Main dealer servicing and car showrooms 9. Work 10. Restraunts ... bambara
  • Score: -7

10:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

behonest says...

bambara wrote:
Robert_ wrote:
If it wasn't for the cheap Sainsbury fuel I would avoid Darlo like the plague... can anyone name 1 good reason for someone outside the town to come in to the place?
1. East Coast main line station (and parking with it, try parking near Durham Train station)

2. Swimming Baths & Leisure centre

3. Cinema

4. DIY & trade shops

5. Hospital

6. College(s)

7. Banks

8. Main dealer servicing and car showrooms

9. Work

10. Restraunts

...
East Coast main line? It means you're leaving Darlo.
Swimming baths/Leisure Centre/Cinema/DIY & trade shops - most towns have these. And the Darlo cinema is particularly sh1t (and expensive).
Hospital - eh? you go here only if you have to. No-one wants to. And DMH also has a bad reputation for patient care.
Colleges/Banks/Main Dealers & car showrooms - eh? Most towns have these.
Work. Eh? If you work in a town, any town, you have to go to work!
Restaurants. Eh? What, only in Darlo?

A typically barmy post.
[quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robert_[/bold] wrote: If it wasn't for the cheap Sainsbury fuel I would avoid Darlo like the plague... can anyone name 1 good reason for someone outside the town to come in to the place?[/p][/quote]1. East Coast main line station (and parking with it, try parking near Durham Train station) 2. Swimming Baths & Leisure centre 3. Cinema 4. DIY & trade shops 5. Hospital 6. College(s) 7. Banks 8. Main dealer servicing and car showrooms 9. Work 10. Restraunts ...[/p][/quote]East Coast main line? It means you're leaving Darlo. Swimming baths/Leisure Centre/Cinema/DIY & trade shops - most towns have these. And the Darlo cinema is particularly sh1t (and expensive). Hospital - eh? you go here only if you have to. No-one wants to. And DMH also has a bad reputation for patient care. Colleges/Banks/Main Dealers & car showrooms - eh? Most towns have these. Work. Eh? If you work in a town, any town, you have to go to work! Restaurants. Eh? What, only in Darlo? A typically barmy post. behonest
  • Score: 10

11:17pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Robert_ says...

Work? Restaurants? Cinema? Are you serious?
Work? Restaurants? Cinema? Are you serious? Robert_
  • Score: 7

11:18pm Sat 28 Jun 14

LUSTARD says...

Darloresident wrote:
DarloXman wrote:
Robert_ wrote:
stupid73 wrote:
George1965 wrote:
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling.

Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me.

Surely more productive than trolling??
What is it now labelling people on the internet with an opinion a 'troll'?

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion"

Calling someone with a different opinion to you a 'troll' is just lazy... and wrong.
Well said.

I am sure stupid73 was including me as one of the "half a dozen trolls on here just love to bash Darlington's council given any opportunity."

I am 'guilty' of the charge of being vocal and critical of the poor performance I repeatedly see of Darlington Borough Council. When you say 'any opportunity' - they certainly give me plenty of opportunities to criticise.

I'm not on Facebook but perhaps I should get an account. Up to now I've used e-mail and the formal complaints procedure to report issues to the council - and certainly never had an immediate response - obvious Facebook is now the way to go!
Stupid73 - Citizens in this country have a right and and I might say a duty to hold their elected peers to account.This is not Trolling this is participation in the democratic process .
I find it rather unsettling that you have managed on a saturday because you have facebook to contact Bill Dixon and have your issues attended to..
Proof if proof were needed that the vast majority of Darlington residents who do not have access to social media are at a disadvantage when it comes to having their voice heard..
Facebook and Twitter are NOT the way to service residents issues unless there is a published formal procedure for using them..
you could go an ave a pint wiv em in t tapas bar 22s or quakers tho
[quote][p][bold]Darloresident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarloXman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robert_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling. Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me. Surely more productive than trolling??[/p][/quote]What is it now labelling people on the internet with an opinion a 'troll'? "In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion" Calling someone with a different opinion to you a 'troll' is just lazy... and wrong.[/p][/quote]Well said. I am sure stupid73 was including me as one of the "half a dozen trolls on here just love to bash Darlington's council given any opportunity." I am 'guilty' of the charge of being vocal and critical of the poor performance I repeatedly see of Darlington Borough Council. When you say 'any opportunity' - they certainly give me plenty of opportunities to criticise. I'm not on Facebook but perhaps I should get an account. Up to now I've used e-mail and the formal complaints procedure to report issues to the council - and certainly never had an immediate response - obvious Facebook is now the way to go![/p][/quote]Stupid73 - Citizens in this country have a right and and I might say a duty to hold their elected peers to account.This is not Trolling this is participation in the democratic process . I find it rather unsettling that you have managed on a saturday because you have facebook to contact Bill Dixon and have your issues attended to.. Proof if proof were needed that the vast majority of Darlington residents who do not have access to social media are at a disadvantage when it comes to having their voice heard.. Facebook and Twitter are NOT the way to service residents issues unless there is a published formal procedure for using them..[/p][/quote]you could go an ave a pint wiv em in t tapas bar 22s or quakers tho LUSTARD
  • Score: 6

11:38pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Gamechanger says...

Darlington council as well as Arriva have completely lost the plot. Adequate and reasonably priced car parking as well as public transport can draw shoppers in. Excessive parking charges and chaotic town centre bus service are bound to drive people away. On top of this the town is filthy and getting more chavvy than Middlesbrough every day
Darlington council as well as Arriva have completely lost the plot. Adequate and reasonably priced car parking as well as public transport can draw shoppers in. Excessive parking charges and chaotic town centre bus service are bound to drive people away. On top of this the town is filthy and getting more chavvy than Middlesbrough every day Gamechanger
  • Score: 16

2:04am Sun 29 Jun 14

darloboss says...

only wish billy boy took notice of comments on here
only wish billy boy took notice of comments on here darloboss
  • Score: 13

2:35am Sun 29 Jun 14

darloboss says...

Robert_ wrote:
If it wasn't for the cheap Sainsbury fuel I would avoid Darlo like the plague... can anyone name 1 good reason for someone outside the town to come in to the place?
tindale
[quote][p][bold]Robert_[/bold] wrote: If it wasn't for the cheap Sainsbury fuel I would avoid Darlo like the plague... can anyone name 1 good reason for someone outside the town to come in to the place?[/p][/quote]tindale darloboss
  • Score: -2

6:58am Sun 29 Jun 14

Jonn says...

calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!
Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it.

Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!"

I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home?

All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.
[quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.[/p][/quote]People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel![/p][/quote]Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it. Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!" I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home? All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country. Jonn
  • Score: 5

8:07am Sun 29 Jun 14

bambara says...

"East Coast main line? It means you're leaving Darlo.
Swimming baths/Leisure Centre/Cinema/DIY & trade shops - most towns have these. And the Darlo cinema is particularly sh1t (and expensive).
Hospital - eh? you go here only if you have to. No-one wants to. And DMH also has a bad reputation for patient care.
Colleges/Banks/Main Dealers & car showrooms - eh? Most towns have these.
Work. Eh? If you work in a town, any town, you have to go to work!
Restaurants. Eh? What, only in Darlo?

A typically barmy post."

Oh come on now be honest...

People use the train station to BOTH leave and COME TO or return to Darlington. People using the train station get dropped off or picked up, some of them arrive before the train is due and do some shopping, or do the shopping when they return and before they then go home.
More importantly the train station and road links attract investment. The A1, A66 and the East Coast main line mean that Darlington has good communications links. - I know at least one person who re-located from the SouthEast to Darlington because he works as a contractor on track maintenance, it is convenient for travel to projects North and South and the house prices allowed him to buy a home for him and his family he could never have afforded in the Southeast. - So yes the train station.

All the other stuff, and the Theatre etc... Yes all big towns have these, but that is the point isn't it, people come to Darlington because it has these, because it is a big town and provides choice that smaller local towns don't have. Try the theatre, or Cinema in Barnard Castle, or Bishop Auckland, or Sedgefield. Go looking for a new car in any of those and see how much choice you have.

What are you expecting the local council to do? Build an 11th century Cathedral or a 14th century castle, maybe move Darlinton to the coast or change the climate? Maybe unearth Roman ruins, or create a historic University?
Nah you would only complain about the tourists and the students.

About the only sensible suggestion I could give is spend a few millions building a few more different versions of the brick train around the town, add in some other railway themed sculpture and turn the town into a railway themed urban sculpture park.
"East Coast main line? It means you're leaving Darlo. Swimming baths/Leisure Centre/Cinema/DIY & trade shops - most towns have these. And the Darlo cinema is particularly sh1t (and expensive). Hospital - eh? you go here only if you have to. No-one wants to. And DMH also has a bad reputation for patient care. Colleges/Banks/Main Dealers & car showrooms - eh? Most towns have these. Work. Eh? If you work in a town, any town, you have to go to work! Restaurants. Eh? What, only in Darlo? A typically barmy post." Oh come on now be honest... People use the train station to BOTH leave and COME TO or return to Darlington. People using the train station get dropped off or picked up, some of them arrive before the train is due and do some shopping, or do the shopping when they return and before they then go home. More importantly the train station and road links attract investment. The A1, A66 and the East Coast main line mean that Darlington has good communications links. - I know at least one person who re-located from the SouthEast to Darlington because he works as a contractor on track maintenance, it is convenient for travel to projects North and South and the house prices allowed him to buy a home for him and his family he could never have afforded in the Southeast. - So yes the train station. All the other stuff, and the Theatre etc... Yes all big towns have these, but that is the point isn't it, people come to Darlington because it has these, because it is a big town and provides choice that smaller local towns don't have. Try the theatre, or Cinema in Barnard Castle, or Bishop Auckland, or Sedgefield. Go looking for a new car in any of those and see how much choice you have. What are you expecting the local council to do? Build an 11th century Cathedral or a 14th century castle, maybe move Darlinton to the coast or change the climate? Maybe unearth Roman ruins, or create a historic University? Nah you would only complain about the tourists and the students. About the only sensible suggestion I could give is spend a few millions building a few more different versions of the brick train around the town, add in some other railway themed sculpture and turn the town into a railway themed urban sculpture park. bambara
  • Score: 2

8:09am Sun 29 Jun 14

Libertarian Party (North) says...

Jonn wrote:
Putting politics aside for one moment..... Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it? There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough. Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.
Councils paint double yellow lines practically everywhere, preventing people from parking where they would not cause an obsruction. This channels motorists into private multistorey car parks where they have to pay through the nose to park to do their shopping. Councils are conspiring with large private corporations to fleece the motorist at the expense of small local businesses, who lose trade because it is cheaper to shop out of town where there is free parking.

Councils, particularly those in the North need to cut the Business Rates and Council Tax and reduce Parking Restrictions to boost flagging small businesses. In order to do this, they need to cut the size and their spheres of influence to live within their means.

They won't do this though, because of self-interested, self-serving politicians who couldn't run a bath, let alone a business.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Putting politics aside for one moment..... Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it? There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough. Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.[/p][/quote]Councils paint double yellow lines practically everywhere, preventing people from parking where they would not cause an obsruction. This channels motorists into private multistorey car parks where they have to pay through the nose to park to do their shopping. Councils are conspiring with large private corporations to fleece the motorist at the expense of small local businesses, who lose trade because it is cheaper to shop out of town where there is free parking. Councils, particularly those in the North need to cut the Business Rates and Council Tax and reduce Parking Restrictions to boost flagging small businesses. In order to do this, they need to cut the size and their spheres of influence to live within their means. They won't do this though, because of self-interested, self-serving politicians who couldn't run a bath, let alone a business. Libertarian Party (North)
  • Score: 6

8:26am Sun 29 Jun 14

Darloresident says...

bambara wrote:
Shop vacancies are a problem across the entire country.
About 14% of shops on average last year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/business-24025

297

As ever the negative posters who always post attacks on the Labour council (without any actual fact or figures to back up the statements they make) are trying to blame a national issue on the local council.

Next time you are in the town, count the number of shops and see if the number of vacancies is more than the 1 in 7 national average.
Is it even close to the figure for the NorthWest which is 1 in 5?
I think you will find Bill Dixon's statement of Darlington having the "lowest rates of vacant shops in the North east" was not backed up with any figures or qualifications...
He was the man who said Thomson holidays were pulling out of Teesside airport because of lack of demand.Thomson quickly responded to say they were not wanted by the airport and it was not their decision to leave.
Bill Dixon thinks because he says it we should all believe it.
I agree with you Bambara lets have facts to back up the words..
[quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: Shop vacancies are a problem across the entire country. About 14% of shops on average last year. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/business-24025 297 As ever the negative posters who always post attacks on the Labour council (without any actual fact or figures to back up the statements they make) are trying to blame a national issue on the local council. Next time you are in the town, count the number of shops and see if the number of vacancies is more than the 1 in 7 national average. Is it even close to the figure for the NorthWest which is 1 in 5?[/p][/quote]I think you will find Bill Dixon's statement of Darlington having the "lowest rates of vacant shops in the North east" was not backed up with any figures or qualifications... He was the man who said Thomson holidays were pulling out of Teesside airport because of lack of demand.Thomson quickly responded to say they were not wanted by the airport and it was not their decision to leave. Bill Dixon thinks because he says it we should all believe it. I agree with you Bambara lets have facts to back up the words.. Darloresident
  • Score: 11

8:33am Sun 29 Jun 14

Sick As A Pig says...

Travelling into Darlington from Harrogate Hill, it gets steadily worse, infact its a dump. Thats why I dont go there anymore. Go to Tindale people, plenty of FREE parking. ( sits back and waits for backlash )
Travelling into Darlington from Harrogate Hill, it gets steadily worse, infact its a dump. Thats why I dont go there anymore. Go to Tindale people, plenty of FREE parking. ( sits back and waits for backlash ) Sick As A Pig
  • Score: 2

8:55am Sun 29 Jun 14

thehogman says...

stupid73 wrote:
Triglet wrote:
incompednce iresponible day lite wrobbery &ilitracy skills needed to wrun the town apply within £110.000 +massive pension
EH?
Went a little over your head I think
[quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Triglet[/bold] wrote: incompednce iresponible day lite wrobbery &ilitracy skills needed to wrun the town apply within £110.000 +massive pension[/p][/quote]EH?[/p][/quote]Went a little over your head I think thehogman
  • Score: 2

9:07am Sun 29 Jun 14

darloboss says...

Sick As A Pig wrote:
Travelling into Darlington from Harrogate Hill, it gets steadily worse, infact its a dump. Thats why I dont go there anymore. Go to Tindale people, plenty of FREE parking. ( sits back and waits for backlash )
no comlaint from me
live here, work here, but dont shop here .
your right tindale has it all
[quote][p][bold]Sick As A Pig[/bold] wrote: Travelling into Darlington from Harrogate Hill, it gets steadily worse, infact its a dump. Thats why I dont go there anymore. Go to Tindale people, plenty of FREE parking. ( sits back and waits for backlash )[/p][/quote]no comlaint from me live here, work here, but dont shop here . your right tindale has it all darloboss
  • Score: -1

9:22am Sun 29 Jun 14

Jonn says...

I've never been to Tindale.
Had a look on the website but it's useless, doesn't tell me what shops are there.
What shops does it have that Darlington doesn't?
I've never been to Tindale. Had a look on the website but it's useless, doesn't tell me what shops are there. What shops does it have that Darlington doesn't? Jonn
  • Score: 2

9:45am Sun 29 Jun 14

thompso666n says...

I wonder do all the folk who are sticking up for the council and Billy boy know them or are they council workers ? re parking I stopped to drop my father off at the betting shop just up from the George public house and although I was causing no obstruction before my father got his leg out of the car a traffic warden pounced and told me I couldn't stop there under any circumstances !!!! I asked him why a car was allowed to stop in the bus lane every evening at peak times (still does it every night outside the Indian restaurant next to the slaters public house )and informed him I have watched you walk past it on several occasions !! He then stutterd something about the law! by which time my father had heard enough and got back in the car ! Thank you Darlington council for creating this beast that preys on the weak and old who have paid into Darlington all their lives through taxes hope you can sleep easy dbc your time is coming soon in the local elections !! By the way I am born and bred in Darlington same as all my family we all shop in Darlington every day and always support local businesses
I wonder do all the folk who are sticking up for the council and Billy boy know them or are they council workers ? re parking I stopped to drop my father off at the betting shop just up from the George public house and although I was causing no obstruction before my father got his leg out of the car a traffic warden pounced and told me I couldn't stop there under any circumstances !!!! I asked him why a car was allowed to stop in the bus lane every evening at peak times (still does it every night outside the Indian restaurant next to the slaters public house )and informed him I have watched you walk past it on several occasions !! He then stutterd something about the law! by which time my father had heard enough and got back in the car ! Thank you Darlington council for creating this beast that preys on the weak and old who have paid into Darlington all their lives through taxes hope you can sleep easy dbc your time is coming soon in the local elections !! By the way I am born and bred in Darlington same as all my family we all shop in Darlington every day and always support local businesses thompso666n
  • Score: 5

9:53am Sun 29 Jun 14

HSC says...

"Pay through the nose for parking" - it's, what, a pound an hour for parking....

People who grumble about paying that aren't going to be responsible for bringing economic prosperity back to the town.
"Pay through the nose for parking" - it's, what, a pound an hour for parking.... People who grumble about paying that aren't going to be responsible for bringing economic prosperity back to the town. HSC
  • Score: 9

9:55am Sun 29 Jun 14

HSC says...

.... And if you wish to avoid parking fines; park legally and pay for a ticket. Easy.
.... And if you wish to avoid parking fines; park legally and pay for a ticket. Easy. HSC
  • Score: 10

9:58am Sun 29 Jun 14

thompso666n says...

thompso666n wrote:
I wonder do all the folk who are sticking up for the council and Billy boy know them or are they council workers ? re parking I stopped to drop my father off at the betting shop just up from the George public house and although I was causing no obstruction before my father got his leg out of the car a traffic warden pounced and told me I couldn't stop there under any circumstances !!!! I asked him why a car was allowed to stop in the bus lane every evening at peak times (still does it every night outside the Indian restaurant next to the slaters public house )and informed him I have watched you walk past it on several occasions !! He then stutterd something about the law! by which time my father had heard enough and got back in the car ! Thank you Darlington council for creating this beast that preys on the weak and old who have paid into Darlington all their lives through taxes hope you can sleep easy dbc your time is coming soon in the local elections !! By the way I am born and bred in Darlington same as all my family we all shop in Darlington every day and always support local businesses
Also dbc try to stop biting the hand that feeds you !!! All the people who have commented on here complain about the parking !!! Don't see many praising it do you ? Please don't go down the tired old route of revenue helping road safety !! If you could produce stats to help your argument then fair enough but you don't !! All of a sudden it's ok to have two lanes of traffic leaving the roundabout on route to northgate roundabout but when it was reduced to one at the last upheaval it was claimed it was for safety ???? People have good memories when we see through your little falsehoods
[quote][p][bold]thompso666n[/bold] wrote: I wonder do all the folk who are sticking up for the council and Billy boy know them or are they council workers ? re parking I stopped to drop my father off at the betting shop just up from the George public house and although I was causing no obstruction before my father got his leg out of the car a traffic warden pounced and told me I couldn't stop there under any circumstances !!!! I asked him why a car was allowed to stop in the bus lane every evening at peak times (still does it every night outside the Indian restaurant next to the slaters public house )and informed him I have watched you walk past it on several occasions !! He then stutterd something about the law! by which time my father had heard enough and got back in the car ! Thank you Darlington council for creating this beast that preys on the weak and old who have paid into Darlington all their lives through taxes hope you can sleep easy dbc your time is coming soon in the local elections !! By the way I am born and bred in Darlington same as all my family we all shop in Darlington every day and always support local businesses[/p][/quote]Also dbc try to stop biting the hand that feeds you !!! All the people who have commented on here complain about the parking !!! Don't see many praising it do you ? Please don't go down the tired old route of revenue helping road safety !! If you could produce stats to help your argument then fair enough but you don't !! All of a sudden it's ok to have two lanes of traffic leaving the roundabout on route to northgate roundabout but when it was reduced to one at the last upheaval it was claimed it was for safety ???? People have good memories when we see through your little falsehoods thompso666n
  • Score: 6

10:14am Sun 29 Jun 14

bones26 says...

stupid73 wrote:
bones26 wrote:
stupid73 wrote:
George1965 wrote:
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling.

Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me.

Surely more productive than trolling??
shouldnt mr dixon be doing the job he is getting paid for at the council rather than looking at his personal facebook account during working hours and replying to individuals who contact him through facebook .hope he clocked out and clocked back in again while doing personal work in council time .
Erm because it is a Saturday ....troll
ile troll you
[quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bones26[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling. Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me. Surely more productive than trolling??[/p][/quote]shouldnt mr dixon be doing the job he is getting paid for at the council rather than looking at his personal facebook account during working hours and replying to individuals who contact him through facebook .hope he clocked out and clocked back in again while doing personal work in council time .[/p][/quote]Erm because it is a Saturday ....troll[/p][/quote]ile troll you bones26
  • Score: -1

10:48am Sun 29 Jun 14

Apocalypse Later says...

Common now everyone.
I have lived on Darlington all my life and proud of it.
It may have its downfalls but look at the surrounding areas.
Let's just be proud of it - and not vote Labour in the next election!
Common now everyone. I have lived on Darlington all my life and proud of it. It may have its downfalls but look at the surrounding areas. Let's just be proud of it - and not vote Labour in the next election! Apocalypse Later
  • Score: 20

11:21am Sun 29 Jun 14

calumannabel says...

Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!
Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it.

Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!"

I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home?

All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.
My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.[/p][/quote]People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel![/p][/quote]Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it. Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!" I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home? All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.[/p][/quote]My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town? calumannabel
  • Score: -2

11:31am Sun 29 Jun 14

loan_star says...

Let's not forget that DBC now charge people to park outside their own homes in some areas. Another excuse to tax people.
Let's not forget that DBC now charge people to park outside their own homes in some areas. Another excuse to tax people. loan_star
  • Score: 11

12:32pm Sun 29 Jun 14

bones26 says...

stupid73 wrote:
bones26 wrote:
stupid73 wrote:
George1965 wrote:
Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference.
I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.
Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling.

Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me.

Surely more productive than trolling??
shouldnt mr dixon be doing the job he is getting paid for at the council rather than looking at his personal facebook account during working hours and replying to individuals who contact him through facebook .hope he clocked out and clocked back in again while doing personal work in council time .
Erm because it is a Saturday ....troll
like i said b4 ile troll you ,just because i have an opinion doesnt make me a troll.and the northern echo can take this down too if they want
[quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bones26[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: Stupid73, I do presume you are not referring to me as a troll? I certainly do not take kindly to such an inference. I will accept your apology if you were not referring to me in this instance.[/p][/quote]Not directed at anyone individual. It's just EVERY story about Darlington (good or bad) you get the same half dozen people having a go at "Billy Boy" or the council as a whole. The council gets some things wrong, they all do. If you have a problem with a particular policy go and talk to someone about it rather than sit on your computer all day trolling. Just this morning I have contacted Bill Dixon via his Facebook account over a concern I have. He wrote back to me imediately and is going to look into it and get back to me. Surely more productive than trolling??[/p][/quote]shouldnt mr dixon be doing the job he is getting paid for at the council rather than looking at his personal facebook account during working hours and replying to individuals who contact him through facebook .hope he clocked out and clocked back in again while doing personal work in council time .[/p][/quote]Erm because it is a Saturday ....troll[/p][/quote]like i said b4 ile troll you ,just because i have an opinion doesnt make me a troll.and the northern echo can take this down too if they want bones26
  • Score: -1

3:54pm Sun 29 Jun 14

bambara says...

Darloresident wrote:
bambara wrote: Shop vacancies are a problem across the entire country. About 14% of shops on average last year. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/business-24025 297 As ever the negative posters who always post attacks on the Labour council (without any actual fact or figures to back up the statements they make) are trying to blame a national issue on the local council. Next time you are in the town, count the number of shops and see if the number of vacancies is more than the 1 in 7 national average. Is it even close to the figure for the NorthWest which is 1 in 5?
I think you will find Bill Dixon's statement of Darlington having the "lowest rates of vacant shops in the North east" was not backed up with any figures or qualifications... He was the man who said Thomson holidays were pulling out of Teesside airport because of lack of demand.Thomson quickly responded to say they were not wanted by the airport and it was not their decision to leave. Bill Dixon thinks because he says it we should all believe it. I agree with you Bambara lets have facts to back up the words..
So how many empty shops are there in Darlinton? Is it 1 in 5 like the NorthWest, 1 in 7 like the UK average, or less than that?

I know it was a lot back in the 80's during the peak of the Tory destruction of the industrial base of the UK, back when we were up to over 11% unemployment in the UK. (A lot more than 11% in the northeast at the time)
You know back when Darlington had a Tory MP, in the bad old days.
[quote][p][bold]Darloresident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: Shop vacancies are a problem across the entire country. About 14% of shops on average last year. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/business-24025 297 As ever the negative posters who always post attacks on the Labour council (without any actual fact or figures to back up the statements they make) are trying to blame a national issue on the local council. Next time you are in the town, count the number of shops and see if the number of vacancies is more than the 1 in 7 national average. Is it even close to the figure for the NorthWest which is 1 in 5?[/p][/quote]I think you will find Bill Dixon's statement of Darlington having the "lowest rates of vacant shops in the North east" was not backed up with any figures or qualifications... He was the man who said Thomson holidays were pulling out of Teesside airport because of lack of demand.Thomson quickly responded to say they were not wanted by the airport and it was not their decision to leave. Bill Dixon thinks because he says it we should all believe it. I agree with you Bambara lets have facts to back up the words..[/p][/quote]So how many empty shops are there in Darlinton? Is it 1 in 5 like the NorthWest, 1 in 7 like the UK average, or less than that? I know it was a lot back in the 80's during the peak of the Tory destruction of the industrial base of the UK, back when we were up to over 11% unemployment in the UK. (A lot more than 11% in the northeast at the time) You know back when Darlington had a Tory MP, in the bad old days. bambara
  • Score: -5

4:13pm Sun 29 Jun 14

loan_star says...

Well my memory of the 80s was a thriving market and a wide variety of shops, nearly all units were taken and the town was very busy at a weekend. It was nowhere near as dead as it is now under a Labour council and MP.
Well my memory of the 80s was a thriving market and a wide variety of shops, nearly all units were taken and the town was very busy at a weekend. It was nowhere near as dead as it is now under a Labour council and MP. loan_star
  • Score: 16

4:47pm Sun 29 Jun 14

settheworldonfire says...

Jonn wrote:
Putting politics aside for one moment.....
Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it?
There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough.
Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.
Try shopping in Alnwick....FREE PARKING ALL DAY.....Try parking in Ashington....FREE PARKING ALL DAY...Try parking in Blyth....FREE PARKING ALL DAY.....Try parking in Cramlington...FREE PARKING ALL DAY...ETC ETC ETC.....Northumberla
nd council allows this.....Guess what? These towns are full of shoppers spending their cash in local businesses....D.B.C. do not care if they turn it into a ghost town........
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Putting politics aside for one moment..... Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it? There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough. Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.[/p][/quote]Try shopping in Alnwick....FREE PARKING ALL DAY.....Try parking in Ashington....FREE PARKING ALL DAY...Try parking in Blyth....FREE PARKING ALL DAY.....Try parking in Cramlington...FREE PARKING ALL DAY...ETC ETC ETC.....Northumberla nd council allows this.....Guess what? These towns are full of shoppers spending their cash in local businesses....D.B.C. do not care if they turn it into a ghost town........ settheworldonfire
  • Score: 5

5:42pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Jonn says...

calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!
Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it.

Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!"

I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home?

All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.
My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?
You make woeful arguments, you should be picked up on them.
Then you try to put me down out of desperation.
I never mentioned revenue gathering, what are you talking about now?
I saw cars parked in Darlingtons car parks today so for you to say anyone with a car shops out of town is incorrect.
[quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.[/p][/quote]People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel![/p][/quote]Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it. Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!" I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home? All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.[/p][/quote]My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?[/p][/quote]You make woeful arguments, you should be picked up on them. Then you try to put me down out of desperation. I never mentioned revenue gathering, what are you talking about now? I saw cars parked in Darlingtons car parks today so for you to say anyone with a car shops out of town is incorrect. Jonn
  • Score: 3

5:50pm Sun 29 Jun 14

thompso666n says...

As I have said previously !! Do all the supporters of dbc ' work for or have a personal reason be it family or monetary in the said council ???? I wonder ! If you read through the comments in an unbiased way all the "for" comments do not mention the traffic problem ! All the "against" Do and have a valid point !!!
As I have said previously !! Do all the supporters of dbc ' work for or have a personal reason be it family or monetary in the said council ???? I wonder ! If you read through the comments in an unbiased way all the "for" comments do not mention the traffic problem ! All the "against" Do and have a valid point !!! thompso666n
  • Score: -5

5:51pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Robert_ says...

Northallerton has just introduced parking charges to the High Street, the reason for this? According to the 'council' it is to attract visitors to the town.

Seriously, they are all as bad as each other everywhere you go.
Northallerton has just introduced parking charges to the High Street, the reason for this? According to the 'council' it is to attract visitors to the town. Seriously, they are all as bad as each other everywhere you go. Robert_
  • Score: 2

6:10pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Homshaw1 says...

I know funding has been cut but DBC performs far worse than comparable councils. It is run primarily for the benefit of senior managers and councillors. It's not true that Darlington is better than other town centres. Middlesbrough offers a better deal to shoppers. It has more and bigger shops and cheaper parking. BID is a nonsense. It causes more problems than it does to help the small town centre shop.

As for the person who posted the leaflets, I understand your frustration but it doesn't help
I know funding has been cut but DBC performs far worse than comparable councils. It is run primarily for the benefit of senior managers and councillors. It's not true that Darlington is better than other town centres. Middlesbrough offers a better deal to shoppers. It has more and bigger shops and cheaper parking. BID is a nonsense. It causes more problems than it does to help the small town centre shop. As for the person who posted the leaflets, I understand your frustration but it doesn't help Homshaw1
  • Score: 3

6:20pm Sun 29 Jun 14

calumannabel says...

Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!
Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it.

Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!"

I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home?

All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.
My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?
You make woeful arguments, you should be picked up on them.
Then you try to put me down out of desperation.
I never mentioned revenue gathering, what are you talking about now?
I saw cars parked in Darlingtons car parks today so for you to say anyone with a car shops out of town is incorrect.
As for ' I bet you shop here' I seem to have shopped at Teesside Park, Middlesbrough and Dalton Park today and Newcastle yesterday. I venture into Big Issue Central only as a last resort. I wasn't talking to you about revenue gathering and it is a fair point that I make that if it isn't about revenue gathering then why are the wardens out on Sundays? Of course you saw cars parked in Darlington today - presumably all trying to get into the closed shops!
Now get off my back and pick on someone else. And yes I'm currently moving several hundred miles away and I'll be glad to see the back of Dirty Darlo.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.[/p][/quote]People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel![/p][/quote]Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it. Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!" I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home? All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.[/p][/quote]My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?[/p][/quote]You make woeful arguments, you should be picked up on them. Then you try to put me down out of desperation. I never mentioned revenue gathering, what are you talking about now? I saw cars parked in Darlingtons car parks today so for you to say anyone with a car shops out of town is incorrect.[/p][/quote]As for ' I bet you shop here' I seem to have shopped at Teesside Park, Middlesbrough and Dalton Park today and Newcastle yesterday. I venture into Big Issue Central only as a last resort. I wasn't talking to you about revenue gathering and it is a fair point that I make that if it isn't about revenue gathering then why are the wardens out on Sundays? Of course you saw cars parked in Darlington today - presumably all trying to get into the closed shops! Now get off my back and pick on someone else. And yes I'm currently moving several hundred miles away and I'll be glad to see the back of Dirty Darlo. calumannabel
  • Score: -7

6:52pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Libertarian Party (North) says...

As long as nobody else is directly inconvenienced, pensioners and any other adult have a right to drink as little or as much as they choose. It is not for their self-appointed "guardians" to dictate their habits. Having paid a lifetime into the National Insurance Ponzi Scheme, their health care has well and truly been bought and paid for.

This attitude by the ruling classes that we never emerge from our first childhood until we enter our second one, and need to be coerced into living how they want us to, eating, drinking, thinking, saying and doing what they want us to has to stop. Our freedom as adults has gradually been stolen from us, until we have become micro-managed slaves from cradle to grave.
As long as nobody else is directly inconvenienced, pensioners and any other adult have a right to drink as little or as much as they choose. It is not for their self-appointed "guardians" to dictate their habits. Having paid a lifetime into the National Insurance Ponzi Scheme, their health care has well and truly been bought and paid for. This attitude by the ruling classes that we never emerge from our first childhood until we enter our second one, and need to be coerced into living how they want us to, eating, drinking, thinking, saying and doing what they want us to has to stop. Our freedom as adults has gradually been stolen from us, until we have become micro-managed slaves from cradle to grave. Libertarian Party (North)
  • Score: 2

7:14pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Robert_ says...

Must admit I was glad to leave Darlo... theres only so much of sharing the local shop with a mother of 3 in her dressing gown at 3 in the afternoon you can take before deciding your life is going wrong....
Must admit I was glad to leave Darlo... theres only so much of sharing the local shop with a mother of 3 in her dressing gown at 3 in the afternoon you can take before deciding your life is going wrong.... Robert_
  • Score: 8

7:52pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Jonn says...

calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!
Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it.

Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!"

I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home?

All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.
My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?
You make woeful arguments, you should be picked up on them.
Then you try to put me down out of desperation.
I never mentioned revenue gathering, what are you talking about now?
I saw cars parked in Darlingtons car parks today so for you to say anyone with a car shops out of town is incorrect.
As for ' I bet you shop here' I seem to have shopped at Teesside Park, Middlesbrough and Dalton Park today and Newcastle yesterday. I venture into Big Issue Central only as a last resort. I wasn't talking to you about revenue gathering and it is a fair point that I make that if it isn't about revenue gathering then why are the wardens out on Sundays? Of course you saw cars parked in Darlington today - presumably all trying to get into the closed shops!
Now get off my back and pick on someone else. And yes I'm currently moving several hundred miles away and I'll be glad to see the back of Dirty Darlo.
I hope you're not moving down south? The parking charges down there are astronomical!
[quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.[/p][/quote]People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel![/p][/quote]Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it. Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!" I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home? All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.[/p][/quote]My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?[/p][/quote]You make woeful arguments, you should be picked up on them. Then you try to put me down out of desperation. I never mentioned revenue gathering, what are you talking about now? I saw cars parked in Darlingtons car parks today so for you to say anyone with a car shops out of town is incorrect.[/p][/quote]As for ' I bet you shop here' I seem to have shopped at Teesside Park, Middlesbrough and Dalton Park today and Newcastle yesterday. I venture into Big Issue Central only as a last resort. I wasn't talking to you about revenue gathering and it is a fair point that I make that if it isn't about revenue gathering then why are the wardens out on Sundays? Of course you saw cars parked in Darlington today - presumably all trying to get into the closed shops! Now get off my back and pick on someone else. And yes I'm currently moving several hundred miles away and I'll be glad to see the back of Dirty Darlo.[/p][/quote]I hope you're not moving down south? The parking charges down there are astronomical! Jonn
  • Score: 3

8:41pm Sun 29 Jun 14

DarloXman says...

thompso666n wrote:
As I have said previously !! Do all the supporters of dbc ' work for or have a personal reason be it family or monetary in the said council ???? I wonder ! If you read through the comments in an unbiased way all the "for" comments do not mention the traffic problem ! All the "against" Do and have a valid point !!!
I've often thought that.

There are a core of fervent contributors who defend both the Labour Party and the Council - whatever the issue or point. Stupid73 (above) even sends Mr Dixon a Facebook message on a Saturday morning so I think it is safe to assume that said contributors are "insiders" - people who have interest in protecting and prolonging the unfair and incompetent status quo.

Anyone who has an opinion different to their own is of course labelled either right wing, a troll as per Stupid73, or in the case of any concerns over uncontrolled immigration a bigot, racist or even a fascist.
[quote][p][bold]thompso666n[/bold] wrote: As I have said previously !! Do all the supporters of dbc ' work for or have a personal reason be it family or monetary in the said council ???? I wonder ! If you read through the comments in an unbiased way all the "for" comments do not mention the traffic problem ! All the "against" Do and have a valid point !!![/p][/quote]I've often thought that. There are a core of fervent contributors who defend both the Labour Party and the Council - whatever the issue or point. Stupid73 (above) even sends Mr Dixon a Facebook message on a Saturday morning so I think it is safe to assume that said contributors are "insiders" - people who have interest in protecting and prolonging the unfair and incompetent status quo. Anyone who has an opinion different to their own is of course labelled either right wing, a troll as per Stupid73, or in the case of any concerns over uncontrolled immigration a bigot, racist or even a fascist. DarloXman
  • Score: 6

10:20pm Sun 29 Jun 14

behonest says...

Bill Dixon: "This person is running their town centre down which doesn’t help anybody here"

Nice try, son. But it's your usual Darlington Labour Council spin and drivel. What this person is actually doing is running down the fools in the Labour council, who are pursuing policies that are destroying his/her town.

Big difference.
Bill Dixon: "This person is running their town centre down which doesn’t help anybody here" Nice try, son. But it's your usual Darlington Labour Council spin and drivel. What this person is actually doing is running down the fools in the Labour council, who are pursuing policies that are destroying his/her town. Big difference. behonest
  • Score: 15

11:01pm Sun 29 Jun 14

darloboss says...

behonest wrote:
Bill Dixon: "This person is running their town centre down which doesn’t help anybody here"

Nice try, son. But it's your usual Darlington Labour Council spin and drivel. What this person is actually doing is running down the fools in the Labour council, who are pursuing policies that are destroying his/her town.

Big difference.
coudnt have put it better myself
[quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: Bill Dixon: "This person is running their town centre down which doesn’t help anybody here" Nice try, son. But it's your usual Darlington Labour Council spin and drivel. What this person is actually doing is running down the fools in the Labour council, who are pursuing policies that are destroying his/her town. Big difference.[/p][/quote]coudnt have put it better myself darloboss
  • Score: 2

11:05pm Sun 29 Jun 14

darloboss says...

calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!
Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it.

Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!"

I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home?

All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.
My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?
You make woeful arguments, you should be picked up on them.
Then you try to put me down out of desperation.
I never mentioned revenue gathering, what are you talking about now?
I saw cars parked in Darlingtons car parks today so for you to say anyone with a car shops out of town is incorrect.
As for ' I bet you shop here' I seem to have shopped at Teesside Park, Middlesbrough and Dalton Park today and Newcastle yesterday. I venture into Big Issue Central only as a last resort. I wasn't talking to you about revenue gathering and it is a fair point that I make that if it isn't about revenue gathering then why are the wardens out on Sundays? Of course you saw cars parked in Darlington today - presumably all trying to get into the closed shops!
Now get off my back and pick on someone else. And yes I'm currently moving several hundred miles away and I'll be glad to see the back of Dirty Darlo.
bet you still look at the echo website
[quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.[/p][/quote]People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel![/p][/quote]Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it. Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!" I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home? All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.[/p][/quote]My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?[/p][/quote]You make woeful arguments, you should be picked up on them. Then you try to put me down out of desperation. I never mentioned revenue gathering, what are you talking about now? I saw cars parked in Darlingtons car parks today so for you to say anyone with a car shops out of town is incorrect.[/p][/quote]As for ' I bet you shop here' I seem to have shopped at Teesside Park, Middlesbrough and Dalton Park today and Newcastle yesterday. I venture into Big Issue Central only as a last resort. I wasn't talking to you about revenue gathering and it is a fair point that I make that if it isn't about revenue gathering then why are the wardens out on Sundays? Of course you saw cars parked in Darlington today - presumably all trying to get into the closed shops! Now get off my back and pick on someone else. And yes I'm currently moving several hundred miles away and I'll be glad to see the back of Dirty Darlo.[/p][/quote]bet you still look at the echo website darloboss
  • Score: -2

11:58pm Sun 29 Jun 14

laughingboy51 says...

Lets face it Bill Dixon and his cronies are first class kn*b heads, Its no good moaning about DBC on here its your votes that count at local elections. I f you don't vote, you can't moan................
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Lets face it Bill Dixon and his cronies are first class kn*b heads, Its no good moaning about DBC on here its your votes that count at local elections. I f you don't vote, you can't moan................ .................. laughingboy51
  • Score: 7

7:36am Mon 30 Jun 14

Homshaw1 says...

Bill Dickson describes the person's actions as cowardly but how often do we see the really important issues and comments from an unnamed council spokesman. The Echo must have some agreement with the council not to name these people.
The council also seems to have a number of stooges who make comments reflecting councilor's opinions without them being named. I remember an article re parking in Skinnergate that did this. I also remember an article on Darlington's rail history where it said one councilor said we should not dwell in the past without giving his name. Who was it? I don't want to vote for him or her.
Any how it.s a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Bill Dickson describes the person's actions as cowardly but how often do we see the really important issues and comments from an unnamed council spokesman. The Echo must have some agreement with the council not to name these people. The council also seems to have a number of stooges who make comments reflecting councilor's opinions without them being named. I remember an article re parking in Skinnergate that did this. I also remember an article on Darlington's rail history where it said one councilor said we should not dwell in the past without giving his name. Who was it? I don't want to vote for him or her. Any how it.s a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Homshaw1
  • Score: 4

8:28am Mon 30 Jun 14

thompso666n says...

darloboss wrote:
behonest wrote:
Bill Dixon: "This person is running their town centre down which doesn’t help anybody here"

Nice try, son. But it's your usual Darlington Labour Council spin and drivel. What this person is actually doing is running down the fools in the Labour council, who are pursuing policies that are destroying his/her town.

Big difference.
coudnt have put it better myself
As I am on my hols and the Internet is on/off I may be a tad slow but here we go ! I also "couldn't agree more" I think we have a very biased core of labour activists whose agenda is to keep the council labour at all costs ! I also think these champagne socialists would be gutted if one of the other party's took their jobs !! I had the pleasure to talk to an old ex tory councillor the other day and he said he worried about the town as the way it's being run at the moment is bordering on criminal ! All you labour councilors will go down in Darlington history as negligent at best or self serving hypocrites who only wanted to further their own gain let's hope people look past their families voting habits and get you out ! Then you can maybe go to somewhere like Harrogate and turn that place into a ghost town !! Good luck with that one
[quote][p][bold]darloboss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: Bill Dixon: "This person is running their town centre down which doesn’t help anybody here" Nice try, son. But it's your usual Darlington Labour Council spin and drivel. What this person is actually doing is running down the fools in the Labour council, who are pursuing policies that are destroying his/her town. Big difference.[/p][/quote]coudnt have put it better myself[/p][/quote]As I am on my hols and the Internet is on/off I may be a tad slow but here we go ! I also "couldn't agree more" I think we have a very biased core of labour activists whose agenda is to keep the council labour at all costs ! I also think these champagne socialists would be gutted if one of the other party's took their jobs !! I had the pleasure to talk to an old ex tory councillor the other day and he said he worried about the town as the way it's being run at the moment is bordering on criminal ! All you labour councilors will go down in Darlington history as negligent at best or self serving hypocrites who only wanted to further their own gain let's hope people look past their families voting habits and get you out ! Then you can maybe go to somewhere like Harrogate and turn that place into a ghost town !! Good luck with that one thompso666n
  • Score: 4

8:28am Mon 30 Jun 14

thompso666n says...

darloboss wrote:
behonest wrote:
Bill Dixon: "This person is running their town centre down which doesn’t help anybody here"

Nice try, son. But it's your usual Darlington Labour Council spin and drivel. What this person is actually doing is running down the fools in the Labour council, who are pursuing policies that are destroying his/her town.

Big difference.
coudnt have put it better myself
As I am on my hols and the Internet is on/off I may be a tad slow but here we go ! I also "couldn't agree more" I think we have a very biased core of labour activists whose agenda is to keep the council labour at all costs ! I also think these champagne socialists would be gutted if one of the other party's took their jobs !! I had the pleasure to talk to an old ex tory councillor the other day and he said he worried about the town as the way it's being run at the moment is bordering on criminal ! All you labour councilors will go down in Darlington history as negligent at best or self serving hypocrites who only wanted to further their own gain let's hope people look past their families voting habits and get you out ! Then you can maybe go to somewhere like Harrogate and turn that place into a ghost town !! Good luck with that one
[quote][p][bold]darloboss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: Bill Dixon: "This person is running their town centre down which doesn’t help anybody here" Nice try, son. But it's your usual Darlington Labour Council spin and drivel. What this person is actually doing is running down the fools in the Labour council, who are pursuing policies that are destroying his/her town. Big difference.[/p][/quote]coudnt have put it better myself[/p][/quote]As I am on my hols and the Internet is on/off I may be a tad slow but here we go ! I also "couldn't agree more" I think we have a very biased core of labour activists whose agenda is to keep the council labour at all costs ! I also think these champagne socialists would be gutted if one of the other party's took their jobs !! I had the pleasure to talk to an old ex tory councillor the other day and he said he worried about the town as the way it's being run at the moment is bordering on criminal ! All you labour councilors will go down in Darlington history as negligent at best or self serving hypocrites who only wanted to further their own gain let's hope people look past their families voting habits and get you out ! Then you can maybe go to somewhere like Harrogate and turn that place into a ghost town !! Good luck with that one thompso666n
  • Score: 1

8:44am Mon 30 Jun 14

Jonn says...

Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'.
If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century!
Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'. If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century! Jonn
  • Score: 1

10:52am Mon 30 Jun 14

pager11 says...

loan_star wrote:
One of the lads I work with got a ticket yesterday. He was working on some shop fitting in the market hall and needed his van parked close by to load and unload items. He got a ticket because he was away from the van for too long between loads. Now it seems like its illegal to go about genuine business without worrying about these ticket happy people decorating vehicles.
Yet every time theres a service on at the traveller church they park on the double yellow lines and two wheels on the pavement, contravening two different parking rules and yet NEVER get a ticket.
You are absolutely right about the church parking, I rang the parking office up and told them 2 years ago about the parking and even took pictures. but they are not bothered, its no wonder people complain on here about the council and travellers, Bill needs to wake up and maybe if all the town people were treat fairly and squarely people would not have a go at him and his cronies. You cannot have a rule for them and a different rule for everybody else, I assumeD Bill was an educated man.
[quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: One of the lads I work with got a ticket yesterday. He was working on some shop fitting in the market hall and needed his van parked close by to load and unload items. He got a ticket because he was away from the van for too long between loads. Now it seems like its illegal to go about genuine business without worrying about these ticket happy people decorating vehicles. Yet every time theres a service on at the traveller church they park on the double yellow lines and two wheels on the pavement, contravening two different parking rules and yet NEVER get a ticket.[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right about the church parking, I rang the parking office up and told them 2 years ago about the parking and even took pictures. but they are not bothered, its no wonder people complain on here about the council and travellers, Bill needs to wake up and maybe if all the town people were treat fairly and squarely people would not have a go at him and his cronies. You cannot have a rule for them and a different rule for everybody else, I assumeD Bill was an educated man. pager11
  • Score: 8

11:09am Mon 30 Jun 14

thompso666n says...

Jonn wrote:
Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'.
If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century!
Hahaha listen there's no conspiracy here and if you neglect to call the council for their obviously "left" sympathies then there would be no debate needed !!! But surely even the most apathetic of the public would agree that our traffic control/policies are against people travelling to our town centre where as twenty years ago it was absolutely encouraged and DID bring money into the town !!! For Christ's sake north road is the A1 !!!!!!! All of the south had to pass through Darlington town centre to get north ! That's why we are the leading hub of England's transport system !! PROMOTE IT instead of discouraging people from travelling here by car ! Not everyone can "get off there arse" without a little help from public/private transport !!
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'. If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century![/p][/quote]Hahaha listen there's no conspiracy here and if you neglect to call the council for their obviously "left" sympathies then there would be no debate needed !!! But surely even the most apathetic of the public would agree that our traffic control/policies are against people travelling to our town centre where as twenty years ago it was absolutely encouraged and DID bring money into the town !!! For Christ's sake north road is the A1 !!!!!!! All of the south had to pass through Darlington town centre to get north ! That's why we are the leading hub of England's transport system !! PROMOTE IT instead of discouraging people from travelling here by car ! Not everyone can "get off there arse" without a little help from public/private transport !! thompso666n
  • Score: -1

12:14pm Mon 30 Jun 14

thompso666n says...

Jonn wrote:
Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'.
If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century!
Hahaha listen there's no conspiracy here and if you neglect to call the council for their obviously "left" sympathies then there would be no debate needed !!! But surely even the most apathetic of the public would agree that our traffic control/policies are against people travelling to our town centre where as twenty years ago it was absolutely encouraged and DID bring money into the town !!! For Christ's sake north road is the A1 !!!!!!! All of the south had to pass through Darlington town centre to get north ! That's why we are the leading hub of England's transport system !! PROMOTE IT instead of discouraging people from travelling here by car ! Not everyone can "get off there arse" without a little help from public/private transport !!
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'. If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century![/p][/quote]Hahaha listen there's no conspiracy here and if you neglect to call the council for their obviously "left" sympathies then there would be no debate needed !!! But surely even the most apathetic of the public would agree that our traffic control/policies are against people travelling to our town centre where as twenty years ago it was absolutely encouraged and DID bring money into the town !!! For Christ's sake north road is the A1 !!!!!!! All of the south had to pass through Darlington town centre to get north ! That's why we are the leading hub of England's transport system !! PROMOTE IT instead of discouraging people from travelling here by car ! Not everyone can "get off there arse" without a little help from public/private transport !! thompso666n
  • Score: -4

12:14pm Mon 30 Jun 14

thompso666n says...

Jonn wrote:
Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'.
If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century!
Hahaha listen there's no conspiracy here and if you neglect to call the council for their obviously "left" sympathies then there would be no debate needed !!! But surely even the most apathetic of the public would agree that our traffic control/policies are against people travelling to our town centre where as twenty years ago it was absolutely encouraged and DID bring money into the town !!! For Christ's sake north road is the A1 !!!!!!! All of the south had to pass through Darlington town centre to get north ! That's why we are the leading hub of England's transport system !! PROMOTE IT instead of discouraging people from travelling here by car ! Not everyone can "get off there arse" without a little help from public/private transport !!
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'. If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century![/p][/quote]Hahaha listen there's no conspiracy here and if you neglect to call the council for their obviously "left" sympathies then there would be no debate needed !!! But surely even the most apathetic of the public would agree that our traffic control/policies are against people travelling to our town centre where as twenty years ago it was absolutely encouraged and DID bring money into the town !!! For Christ's sake north road is the A1 !!!!!!! All of the south had to pass through Darlington town centre to get north ! That's why we are the leading hub of England's transport system !! PROMOTE IT instead of discouraging people from travelling here by car ! Not everyone can "get off there arse" without a little help from public/private transport !! thompso666n
  • Score: -4

12:14pm Mon 30 Jun 14

thompso666n says...

Jonn wrote:
Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'.
If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century!
Hahaha listen there's no conspiracy here and if you neglect to call the council for their obviously "left" sympathies then there would be no debate needed !!! But surely even the most apathetic of the public would agree that our traffic control/policies are against people travelling to our town centre where as twenty years ago it was absolutely encouraged and DID bring money into the town !!! For Christ's sake north road is the A1 !!!!!!! All of the south had to pass through Darlington town centre to get north ! That's why we are the leading hub of England's transport system !! PROMOTE IT instead of discouraging people from travelling here by car ! Not everyone can "get off there arse" without a little help from public/private transport !!
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'. If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century![/p][/quote]Hahaha listen there's no conspiracy here and if you neglect to call the council for their obviously "left" sympathies then there would be no debate needed !!! But surely even the most apathetic of the public would agree that our traffic control/policies are against people travelling to our town centre where as twenty years ago it was absolutely encouraged and DID bring money into the town !!! For Christ's sake north road is the A1 !!!!!!! All of the south had to pass through Darlington town centre to get north ! That's why we are the leading hub of England's transport system !! PROMOTE IT instead of discouraging people from travelling here by car ! Not everyone can "get off there arse" without a little help from public/private transport !! thompso666n
  • Score: -3

12:14pm Mon 30 Jun 14

thompso666n says...

Jonn wrote:
Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'.
If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century!
Hahaha listen there's no conspiracy here and if you neglect to call the council for their obviously "left" sympathies then there would be no debate needed !!! But surely even the most apathetic of the public would agree that our traffic control/policies are against people travelling to our town centre where as twenty years ago it was absolutely encouraged and DID bring money into the town !!! For Christ's sake north road is the A1 !!!!!!! All of the south had to pass through Darlington town centre to get north ! That's why we are the leading hub of England's transport system !! PROMOTE IT instead of discouraging people from travelling here by car ! Not everyone can "get off there arse" without a little help from public/private transport !!
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Here we go. If you fail to attack Darlington Council in every post you write then you're immediately a 'leftie'. If you contact a Council leader via Facebook then there's obviously some socialist conspiracy??? What an odd bunch you are. It's not just available to 'lefties'. Why don't you give it a try? Join the 21st century![/p][/quote]Hahaha listen there's no conspiracy here and if you neglect to call the council for their obviously "left" sympathies then there would be no debate needed !!! But surely even the most apathetic of the public would agree that our traffic control/policies are against people travelling to our town centre where as twenty years ago it was absolutely encouraged and DID bring money into the town !!! For Christ's sake north road is the A1 !!!!!!! All of the south had to pass through Darlington town centre to get north ! That's why we are the leading hub of England's transport system !! PROMOTE IT instead of discouraging people from travelling here by car ! Not everyone can "get off there arse" without a little help from public/private transport !! thompso666n
  • Score: -6

1:07pm Mon 30 Jun 14

cholmes005 says...

This article has stirred up a reaction must read all comments when I get the time. Don't live in town but get train there sometimes so don't care about parking. Train service is decent enough on east coast main line but I do believe business rates are extortion. I was in a furniture shop who are having to close the Darlington branch due to extortion business rates. more people's out of work and another empty unit. Shame as the shop had some decent gear which is going cheap in there closing down sale
This article has stirred up a reaction must read all comments when I get the time. Don't live in town but get train there sometimes so don't care about parking. Train service is decent enough on east coast main line but I do believe business rates are extortion. I was in a furniture shop who are having to close the Darlington branch due to extortion business rates. more people's out of work and another empty unit. Shame as the shop had some decent gear which is going cheap in there closing down sale cholmes005
  • Score: 1

2:03pm Mon 30 Jun 14

miketually says...

I always love a parking story :)
I always love a parking story :) miketually
  • Score: -2

5:26pm Mon 30 Jun 14

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5:53pm Mon 30 Jun 14

calumannabel says...

darloboss wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Jonn wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.
Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington.
Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park.
Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5!
Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.
People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!
Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it.

Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!"

I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home?

All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.
My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?
You make woeful arguments, you should be picked up on them.
Then you try to put me down out of desperation.
I never mentioned revenue gathering, what are you talking about now?
I saw cars parked in Darlingtons car parks today so for you to say anyone with a car shops out of town is incorrect.
As for ' I bet you shop here' I seem to have shopped at Teesside Park, Middlesbrough and Dalton Park today and Newcastle yesterday. I venture into Big Issue Central only as a last resort. I wasn't talking to you about revenue gathering and it is a fair point that I make that if it isn't about revenue gathering then why are the wardens out on Sundays? Of course you saw cars parked in Darlington today - presumably all trying to get into the closed shops!
Now get off my back and pick on someone else. And yes I'm currently moving several hundred miles away and I'll be glad to see the back of Dirty Darlo.
bet you still look at the echo website
You'll lose that bet.
[quote][p][bold]darloboss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: Darlington expensive parking - charity shops pound shops - market a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Teesside Park free parking not a charity shop in sight nor a pound shop. Darlington all day breakfasts and mince and burger joints - Teesside Park a range of eateries. It's not a difficult equation to solve. Parking is about cash gathering not safety or congestion otherwise no wardens would be out on Sundays when nothing is open. Every other Sunday the wardens swarm on Northumberland Street booking cars at the auction viewing. Often these are visitors who once booked never to return. The same applies to Laura Ashley customers who come in from out of town - they are targeted by over zealous wardens. Now the wardens are trying to finish the businesses in Cockerton on W Auckland Rd. Now a traffic questionnaire has dropped through my letterbox from MORI asking my opinion on the highways around Darlington - how much is this costing the council tax payer and how much notice will the Council take of this survey? NONE.[/p][/quote]Nonsense. Teesside Park has every major fast food joint there, more so than Darlington. Darlington has many Cafes, Restaurants and 'Eateries' as well as 'allday breakfasts', way more choice than Teesside Park. Teesside Park may have free parking but it is a 30 mile round trip, maybe a fiver or so in petrol. There's a car park opposite Bondgate Church where you can park allday for £4-£5! Also, if you want to visit the Thomas Watsons, Sainsburys car park is less than 5 minutes walk and you can park for free for 2 or 3 hours. No excuse really.[/p][/quote]People from out of town don't know that they can abuse Sainsbury's car park and walk into town! It is 27 miles from Hartlepool to Darlington (west side) so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel![/p][/quote]Then those from out of town wanting to visit Thomas Watsons or Laura Ashley can use the car park right next door to it. Quote "so probably 12 miles to Teesside Park - less than half a gallon of diesel!" I did say a round trip. How do you intend to get back home? All these arguments for not shopping in Darlington are really p!ss poor. I bet you all shop here anyway but just like a good moan at the Council, like every other section of moaning towns folk in every town the country.[/p][/quote]My vehicle does 60mpg so a return trip to Teesside Park uses much less than half a gallon. John spend less time on your own in your bedroom and stop nit picking. If parking wardens aren't about revenue gathering then why are they working on a Sunday with most shops shut while anyone with a car shops out of town?[/p][/quote]You make woeful arguments, you should be picked up on them. Then you try to put me down out of desperation. I never mentioned revenue gathering, what are you talking about now? I saw cars parked in Darlingtons car parks today so for you to say anyone with a car shops out of town is incorrect.[/p][/quote]As for ' I bet you shop here' I seem to have shopped at Teesside Park, Middlesbrough and Dalton Park today and Newcastle yesterday. I venture into Big Issue Central only as a last resort. I wasn't talking to you about revenue gathering and it is a fair point that I make that if it isn't about revenue gathering then why are the wardens out on Sundays? Of course you saw cars parked in Darlington today - presumably all trying to get into the closed shops! Now get off my back and pick on someone else. And yes I'm currently moving several hundred miles away and I'll be glad to see the back of Dirty Darlo.[/p][/quote]bet you still look at the echo website[/p][/quote]You'll lose that bet. calumannabel
  • Score: -3

7:01pm Mon 30 Jun 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

pager11 wrote:
loan_star wrote:
One of the lads I work with got a ticket yesterday. He was working on some shop fitting in the market hall and needed his van parked close by to load and unload items. He got a ticket because he was away from the van for too long between loads. Now it seems like its illegal to go about genuine business without worrying about these ticket happy people decorating vehicles.
Yet every time theres a service on at the traveller church they park on the double yellow lines and two wheels on the pavement, contravening two different parking rules and yet NEVER get a ticket.
You are absolutely right about the church parking, I rang the parking office up and told them 2 years ago about the parking and even took pictures. but they are not bothered, its no wonder people complain on here about the council and travellers, Bill needs to wake up and maybe if all the town people were treat fairly and squarely people would not have a go at him and his cronies. You cannot have a rule for them and a different rule for everybody else, I assumeD Bill was an educated man.
I've taken photos this weekend of the gypos parked at church, so they can repent their weekly sins. No fewer than 8 vehicles parked illegally on the pavements and not a single ticket issued and no wardens to be seen. I'll be emailing the council and will be asking for the reasons why everyone else is treated differently to the town thieves.
[quote][p][bold]pager11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: One of the lads I work with got a ticket yesterday. He was working on some shop fitting in the market hall and needed his van parked close by to load and unload items. He got a ticket because he was away from the van for too long between loads. Now it seems like its illegal to go about genuine business without worrying about these ticket happy people decorating vehicles. Yet every time theres a service on at the traveller church they park on the double yellow lines and two wheels on the pavement, contravening two different parking rules and yet NEVER get a ticket.[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right about the church parking, I rang the parking office up and told them 2 years ago about the parking and even took pictures. but they are not bothered, its no wonder people complain on here about the council and travellers, Bill needs to wake up and maybe if all the town people were treat fairly and squarely people would not have a go at him and his cronies. You cannot have a rule for them and a different rule for everybody else, I assumeD Bill was an educated man.[/p][/quote]I've taken photos this weekend of the gypos parked at church, so they can repent their weekly sins. No fewer than 8 vehicles parked illegally on the pavements and not a single ticket issued and no wardens to be seen. I'll be emailing the council and will be asking for the reasons why everyone else is treated differently to the town thieves. thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth
  • Score: 6

7:12pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Red rose lad says...

The flippant comments by the usual Council stooges just highlight the rank mentality in this town. Arrogance and ignorance by the elected parasites to the people they are supposed to serve backed by an indifferent population who refuse to hold them to account. You get what you deserve in the end if you can't be bovvered. Come on comrades, where's the revolution. Oh never mind! Better the devil you know.
The flippant comments by the usual Council stooges just highlight the rank mentality in this town. Arrogance and ignorance by the elected parasites to the people they are supposed to serve backed by an indifferent population who refuse to hold them to account. You get what you deserve in the end if you can't be bovvered. Come on comrades, where's the revolution. Oh never mind! Better the devil you know. Red rose lad
  • Score: 5

11:37pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Pierremontquaker03 says...

I have lived in Darlington most of my life and work in Newton Aycliffe where I now do most of my shopping either on a lunch time or after work - yes Aycliffe is basic at best but the fact you can park for free right next to the shops, nip in and get what you want and get out is great. Darlington town centre has missed out on thousands of my own money in the last five years simply because I cannot be done with the hassle of parking.
Another thing why are the parking charges until 6pm - why not encourage people to pop in on their way home from work from say 4pm - the amount of times I have driven past the town and decided not to go in cause its 5.30 and I dont want to have to pay a couple of quid for 30 mins parking!
I have lived in Darlington most of my life and work in Newton Aycliffe where I now do most of my shopping either on a lunch time or after work - yes Aycliffe is basic at best but the fact you can park for free right next to the shops, nip in and get what you want and get out is great. Darlington town centre has missed out on thousands of my own money in the last five years simply because I cannot be done with the hassle of parking. Another thing why are the parking charges until 6pm - why not encourage people to pop in on their way home from work from say 4pm - the amount of times I have driven past the town and decided not to go in cause its 5.30 and I dont want to have to pay a couple of quid for 30 mins parking! Pierremontquaker03
  • Score: 8

7:22am Tue 1 Jul 14

bambara says...

Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party.
Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved.
Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?
Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party. Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved. Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party? bambara
  • Score: 3

7:28am Tue 1 Jul 14

LUSTARD says...

Jonn wrote:
Putting politics aside for one moment.....
Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it?
There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough.
Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.
tinternet is such a phenomenan isnt it, you should take time to read the notices on some shops when theyve shut and most say our lease is up please visit our website for online shopping, a years rent and rates pays in some cases buys you an in industrial unit and a good website. smell the coffee, darlington has a worldwide reputation for trains and engineering with a grand little almost secret station on north rd that could really be massivelly used for tourism when you consider theyre quietly beavering away next door to it building steam trains,,,, and then shipping them of somewhere else,,,, theyre ours bring em back. build a big car park behind it and catch a historic steam train into town the best park and ride in the world.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Putting politics aside for one moment..... Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it? There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough. Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.[/p][/quote]tinternet is such a phenomenan isnt it, you should take time to read the notices on some shops when theyve shut and most say our lease is up please visit our website for online shopping, a years rent and rates pays in some cases buys you an in industrial unit and a good website. smell the coffee, darlington has a worldwide reputation for trains and engineering with a grand little almost secret station on north rd that could really be massivelly used for tourism when you consider theyre quietly beavering away next door to it building steam trains,,,, and then shipping them of somewhere else,,,, theyre ours bring em back. build a big car park behind it and catch a historic steam train into town the best park and ride in the world. LUSTARD
  • Score: 8

7:56am Tue 1 Jul 14

LUSTARD says...

miketually wrote:
I always love a parking story :)
on yer bike lol
[quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: I always love a parking story :)[/p][/quote]on yer bike lol LUSTARD
  • Score: 0

9:13am Tue 1 Jul 14

RealLivin says...

I agree with Lustard,
darlington has a worldwide reputation for trains and engineering with a grand little almost secret station on north rd that could really be massivelly used for tourism when you consider theyre quietly beavering away next door to it building steam trains,,,, and then shipping them of somewhere else,,,, theyre ours bring em back. build a big car park behind it and catch a historic steam train into town the best park and ride in the world.

unfortunately it seems DBC dont or didnt even though they are now seeking heritage status for north road station its to little to late they have already buried the line, and councilors saying we shouldnt live in the past are stupid and blind to the bigger picture, we dont live in the past but if you can make a business out of your heritage only and idiot wouldnt do it , tourist riding into town from a park and ride on steam trains, along the original line, the tourist numbers would mean big retailers would be queuing up to move into Darling ton. The problem is politics, business dont have problems with 10 year plans, politicians cant see outside of their term of office and I dont see anything of the current issues being fixed with in that time period.
I agree with Lustard, darlington has a worldwide reputation for trains and engineering with a grand little almost secret station on north rd that could really be massivelly used for tourism when you consider theyre quietly beavering away next door to it building steam trains,,,, and then shipping them of somewhere else,,,, theyre ours bring em back. build a big car park behind it and catch a historic steam train into town the best park and ride in the world. unfortunately it seems DBC dont or didnt even though they are now seeking heritage status for north road station its to little to late they have already buried the line, and councilors saying we shouldnt live in the past are stupid and blind to the bigger picture, we dont live in the past but if you can make a business out of your heritage only and idiot wouldnt do it , tourist riding into town from a park and ride on steam trains, along the original line, the tourist numbers would mean big retailers would be queuing up to move into Darling ton. The problem is politics, business dont have problems with 10 year plans, politicians cant see outside of their term of office and I dont see anything of the current issues being fixed with in that time period. RealLivin
  • Score: 4

9:16am Tue 1 Jul 14

laboursfoe says...

bambara wrote:
Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party.
Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved.
Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?
I'm not a member of UKIP or the Tory Party, as I'm sure others are not members. I vote Tory because they offer the best alternative to me and my family. I will continue to vote for whichever party offers the best future/solution to the mess that was left in 2010.

Back to this council. The reason I rundown this council is that as a Homeowner who pays full Council Tax and doesn't drain any additional council ran services due to inability to run my own life in a responsible way , I and many others get shocking value for money from this inept bunch.

Bill Dixon and his ilk seem to have no regard for those that tow the line, they plead poverty yet continue to find funding for vanity projects and to appease their Union mates. Our MP is a joke, she picks and choses whichever issue is most topical and often ignores day today issues that really affect people that make the effort to contact her.

The town centre has become a breeding ground for Jeremy Kyle extras who this council will go the extra mile to support without offering any kind of structural help with advice or guidance to reduce dependency.

There is much wrong with this town and it has got worse in the last 11 years or so since I bought my house there.
[quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party. Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved. Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?[/p][/quote]I'm not a member of UKIP or the Tory Party, as I'm sure others are not members. I vote Tory because they offer the best alternative to me and my family. I will continue to vote for whichever party offers the best future/solution to the mess that was left in 2010. Back to this council. The reason I rundown this council is that as a Homeowner who pays full Council Tax and doesn't drain any additional council ran services due to inability to run my own life in a responsible way , I and many others get shocking value for money from this inept bunch. Bill Dixon and his ilk seem to have no regard for those that tow the line, they plead poverty yet continue to find funding for vanity projects and to appease their Union mates. Our MP is a joke, she picks and choses whichever issue is most topical and often ignores day today issues that really affect people that make the effort to contact her. The town centre has become a breeding ground for Jeremy Kyle extras who this council will go the extra mile to support without offering any kind of structural help with advice or guidance to reduce dependency. There is much wrong with this town and it has got worse in the last 11 years or so since I bought my house there. laboursfoe
  • Score: 14

10:23am Tue 1 Jul 14

Darloresident says...

bambara wrote:
Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party.
Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved.
Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?
Not me Bambara - I am certainly no "right winger"I have no affiliation to any political party. I am just an ordinary council tax paying resident voicing their views and opinions on this inept council and the bunch of numpties who run it with MY money.
I am watching this once great town slowly dying.Not as you believe because the government is giving less money to councils but because this particular council has no idea how to cut is cloth or to work smarter.The only way they manage the town is to put up the council tax year on year by the maximum allowed,cut services and waste my money on ill thought out unwanted and in some cases unneeded projects.
I am still awaiting confirmation of the Town centre regeneration project.. I want that to happen but it seems this council are pathetically unsuccessful when it comes to attracting outside investment and acquiring available grants.
So it seems they always end up spending my money on their own pet projects whilst expecting the residents to drive on potholed roads and pick up the litter as well as lately creating their own green spaces on land the council cant sell or make money on.
Time to get rid and give some one else a go..
[quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party. Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved. Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?[/p][/quote]Not me Bambara - I am certainly no "right winger"I have no affiliation to any political party. I am just an ordinary council tax paying resident voicing their views and opinions on this inept council and the bunch of numpties who run it with MY money. I am watching this once great town slowly dying.Not as you believe because the government is giving less money to councils but because this particular council has no idea how to cut is cloth or to work smarter.The only way they manage the town is to put up the council tax year on year by the maximum allowed,cut services and waste my money on ill thought out unwanted and in some cases unneeded projects. I am still awaiting confirmation of the Town centre regeneration project.. I want that to happen but it seems this council are pathetically unsuccessful when it comes to attracting outside investment and acquiring available grants. So it seems they always end up spending my money on their own pet projects whilst expecting the residents to drive on potholed roads and pick up the litter as well as lately creating their own green spaces on land the council cant sell or make money on. Time to get rid and give some one else a go.. Darloresident
  • Score: 7

11:19am Tue 1 Jul 14

Col1964 says...

Mistake wrote:
“As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East." Taken a walk down Post House Wynd lately Bill? at least 5 units up to let.
My wife received a parking ticket a good few years ago, she put the money in the wrong meter as they where near each other one for the road and one for the car park.
She was only 15mins and camera monitored, we disputed the ticket as it was a genuine mistake and it made no difference whatsoever, it even cost more at the meter she used than it would had she put it in the correct one
needless to say we don't go to Darlington anymore
[quote][p][bold]Mistake[/bold] wrote: “As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East." Taken a walk down Post House Wynd lately Bill? at least 5 units up to let.[/p][/quote]My wife received a parking ticket a good few years ago, she put the money in the wrong meter as they where near each other one for the road and one for the car park. She was only 15mins and camera monitored, we disputed the ticket as it was a genuine mistake and it made no difference whatsoever, it even cost more at the meter she used than it would had she put it in the correct one needless to say we don't go to Darlington anymore Col1964
  • Score: 10

11:37am Tue 1 Jul 14

pager11 says...

laboursfoe wrote:
bambara wrote:
Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party.
Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved.
Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?
I'm not a member of UKIP or the Tory Party, as I'm sure others are not members. I vote Tory because they offer the best alternative to me and my family. I will continue to vote for whichever party offers the best future/solution to the mess that was left in 2010.

Back to this council. The reason I rundown this council is that as a Homeowner who pays full Council Tax and doesn't drain any additional council ran services due to inability to run my own life in a responsible way , I and many others get shocking value for money from this inept bunch.

Bill Dixon and his ilk seem to have no regard for those that tow the line, they plead poverty yet continue to find funding for vanity projects and to appease their Union mates. Our MP is a joke, she picks and choses whichever issue is most topical and often ignores day today issues that really affect people that make the effort to contact her.

The town centre has become a breeding ground for Jeremy Kyle extras who this council will go the extra mile to support without offering any kind of structural help with advice or guidance to reduce dependency.

There is much wrong with this town and it has got worse in the last 11 years or so since I bought my house there.
Could not of put it better, this town is like fraggle rock, the local MP does do anything for publicity on whatever is popular, its about time we had a different set of people in the cabinet.
[quote][p][bold]laboursfoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party. Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved. Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?[/p][/quote]I'm not a member of UKIP or the Tory Party, as I'm sure others are not members. I vote Tory because they offer the best alternative to me and my family. I will continue to vote for whichever party offers the best future/solution to the mess that was left in 2010. Back to this council. The reason I rundown this council is that as a Homeowner who pays full Council Tax and doesn't drain any additional council ran services due to inability to run my own life in a responsible way , I and many others get shocking value for money from this inept bunch. Bill Dixon and his ilk seem to have no regard for those that tow the line, they plead poverty yet continue to find funding for vanity projects and to appease their Union mates. Our MP is a joke, she picks and choses whichever issue is most topical and often ignores day today issues that really affect people that make the effort to contact her. The town centre has become a breeding ground for Jeremy Kyle extras who this council will go the extra mile to support without offering any kind of structural help with advice or guidance to reduce dependency. There is much wrong with this town and it has got worse in the last 11 years or so since I bought my house there.[/p][/quote]Could not of put it better, this town is like fraggle rock, the local MP does do anything for publicity on whatever is popular, its about time we had a different set of people in the cabinet. pager11
  • Score: 10

11:39am Tue 1 Jul 14

pager11 says...

thetruthyoucanthandl
ethetruth
wrote:
pager11 wrote:
loan_star wrote:
One of the lads I work with got a ticket yesterday. He was working on some shop fitting in the market hall and needed his van parked close by to load and unload items. He got a ticket because he was away from the van for too long between loads. Now it seems like its illegal to go about genuine business without worrying about these ticket happy people decorating vehicles.
Yet every time theres a service on at the traveller church they park on the double yellow lines and two wheels on the pavement, contravening two different parking rules and yet NEVER get a ticket.
You are absolutely right about the church parking, I rang the parking office up and told them 2 years ago about the parking and even took pictures. but they are not bothered, its no wonder people complain on here about the council and travellers, Bill needs to wake up and maybe if all the town people were treat fairly and squarely people would not have a go at him and his cronies. You cannot have a rule for them and a different rule for everybody else, I assumeD Bill was an educated man.
I've taken photos this weekend of the gypos parked at church, so they can repent their weekly sins. No fewer than 8 vehicles parked illegally on the pavements and not a single ticket issued and no wardens to be seen. I'll be emailing the council and will be asking for the reasons why everyone else is treated differently to the town thieves.
Send the pictures to the The Mail, scan them in you can find the address on line.
[quote][p][bold]thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pager11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: One of the lads I work with got a ticket yesterday. He was working on some shop fitting in the market hall and needed his van parked close by to load and unload items. He got a ticket because he was away from the van for too long between loads. Now it seems like its illegal to go about genuine business without worrying about these ticket happy people decorating vehicles. Yet every time theres a service on at the traveller church they park on the double yellow lines and two wheels on the pavement, contravening two different parking rules and yet NEVER get a ticket.[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right about the church parking, I rang the parking office up and told them 2 years ago about the parking and even took pictures. but they are not bothered, its no wonder people complain on here about the council and travellers, Bill needs to wake up and maybe if all the town people were treat fairly and squarely people would not have a go at him and his cronies. You cannot have a rule for them and a different rule for everybody else, I assumeD Bill was an educated man.[/p][/quote]I've taken photos this weekend of the gypos parked at church, so they can repent their weekly sins. No fewer than 8 vehicles parked illegally on the pavements and not a single ticket issued and no wardens to be seen. I'll be emailing the council and will be asking for the reasons why everyone else is treated differently to the town thieves.[/p][/quote]Send the pictures to the The Mail, scan them in you can find the address on line. pager11
  • Score: 6

11:51am Tue 1 Jul 14

Homshaw1 says...

bambara wrote:
Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party.
Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved.
Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?
Well I voted Labour all my life but I will not vote Labour at the Darlington Council elections. This council is not Labour it's a bunch of self serving, arrogant incompetents who use the labour banner to get what they want. Darlington is far worse than other councils facing similar cuts. What is a problem in Darlington is the dire quality of the opposition.

You also seem to say anyone opposed to the Labour Party in Darlington is anti-Darlington. The opposite is true we do not want to stand by and let it go further downhill.

There are poster on here who unswervingly follow the council line and even quote comments by councillors. They claim to have the best interests of Darlington at heart but I think they are attracted to the coat tails of people who have an illusion of power

I think Samuel Johnson once said "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels"
[quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party. Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved. Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?[/p][/quote]Well I voted Labour all my life but I will not vote Labour at the Darlington Council elections. This council is not Labour it's a bunch of self serving, arrogant incompetents who use the labour banner to get what they want. Darlington is far worse than other councils facing similar cuts. What is a problem in Darlington is the dire quality of the opposition. You also seem to say anyone opposed to the Labour Party in Darlington is anti-Darlington. The opposite is true we do not want to stand by and let it go further downhill. There are poster on here who unswervingly follow the council line and even quote comments by councillors. They claim to have the best interests of Darlington at heart but I think they are attracted to the coat tails of people who have an illusion of power I think Samuel Johnson once said "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels" Homshaw1
  • Score: 7

8:03pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Red rose lad says...

Stoogetastic Bambi. I'm not a member of UKIP or a Tory however I did vote UKIP last time. It's not that the Council are right wing or Labour that bothers me but the fact that there are too many of them and their actions are not in the best interests of the good people of this parish. They look after their own overpaid interests whilst cutting those who deliver essential services. I may not agree with many of the things you say but it's your opinion. What shreds your credibility is that you agree with everything they do and even back them as if they are family members or colleagues. At least that's how it comes across. We are getting a poor service for our money and it's time for a change. Also, there do appear to be quite a few folks on here who disagree with your accusation of their political leanings. Not everyone fits your indoctrinated stereotyping. Wake up and smell the coffee chap.
Stoogetastic Bambi. I'm not a member of UKIP or a Tory however I did vote UKIP last time. It's not that the Council are right wing or Labour that bothers me but the fact that there are too many of them and their actions are not in the best interests of the good people of this parish. They look after their own overpaid interests whilst cutting those who deliver essential services. I may not agree with many of the things you say but it's your opinion. What shreds your credibility is that you agree with everything they do and even back them as if they are family members or colleagues. At least that's how it comes across. We are getting a poor service for our money and it's time for a change. Also, there do appear to be quite a few folks on here who disagree with your accusation of their political leanings. Not everyone fits your indoctrinated stereotyping. Wake up and smell the coffee chap. Red rose lad
  • Score: 1

8:44pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Robert_ says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
bambara wrote:
Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party.
Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved.
Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?
Well I voted Labour all my life but I will not vote Labour at the Darlington Council elections. This council is not Labour it's a bunch of self serving, arrogant incompetents who use the labour banner to get what they want. Darlington is far worse than other councils facing similar cuts. What is a problem in Darlington is the dire quality of the opposition.

You also seem to say anyone opposed to the Labour Party in Darlington is anti-Darlington. The opposite is true we do not want to stand by and let it go further downhill.

There are poster on here who unswervingly follow the council line and even quote comments by councillors. They claim to have the best interests of Darlington at heart but I think they are attracted to the coat tails of people who have an illusion of power

I think Samuel Johnson once said "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels"
Its not about Labour/Tory any more, it hasn't been for years, they are all the same.. privately educated toffs with no clue about real life. Exercise your right to not vote. It will make no difference anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party. Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved. Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?[/p][/quote]Well I voted Labour all my life but I will not vote Labour at the Darlington Council elections. This council is not Labour it's a bunch of self serving, arrogant incompetents who use the labour banner to get what they want. Darlington is far worse than other councils facing similar cuts. What is a problem in Darlington is the dire quality of the opposition. You also seem to say anyone opposed to the Labour Party in Darlington is anti-Darlington. The opposite is true we do not want to stand by and let it go further downhill. There are poster on here who unswervingly follow the council line and even quote comments by councillors. They claim to have the best interests of Darlington at heart but I think they are attracted to the coat tails of people who have an illusion of power I think Samuel Johnson once said "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels"[/p][/quote]Its not about Labour/Tory any more, it hasn't been for years, they are all the same.. privately educated toffs with no clue about real life. Exercise your right to not vote. It will make no difference anyway. Robert_
  • Score: -2

4:48pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Swainston73 says...

I realy have to laugh at these quotes from Councillor Dixons lips in the above article:

1)He said: “As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East.

2)“We have the best performing town centre in the North-East and some of our traders are turning against it and that’s sad.

My reply to both of the statements is this Councilor Dixon, I think the local electorate would like to see evidence of this, I think you need to be a little more truthful and more transparent (honesty is always the best policy) How on earth can town centre trade be doing so well when it is evident that footfall has decreased over the past ten years, small businesses are closing, this clearly speaks for its self realy.

Time to take off those rose tinted specs and see the true picture.
I realy have to laugh at these quotes from Councillor Dixons lips in the above article: 1)He said: “As a town centre we are doing incredibly well and have the lowest rate of vacant shops in the North-East. 2)“We have the best performing town centre in the North-East and some of our traders are turning against it and that’s sad. My reply to both of the statements is this Councilor Dixon, I think the local electorate would like to see evidence of this, I think you need to be a little more truthful and more transparent (honesty is always the best policy) How on earth can town centre trade be doing so well when it is evident that footfall has decreased over the past ten years, small businesses are closing, this clearly speaks for its self realy. Time to take off those rose tinted specs and see the true picture. Swainston73
  • Score: -1

6:37pm Wed 2 Jul 14

springer88 says...

punkrocker wrote:
This could also apply to Bishop Auckland. Traffic (little Hitlers) Wardens every where. No wonder so many empty shops. SAD
Bishop Auckland town centre's a disgrace compared to D'ton's . Just as well Sports direct shop is there as it seems that's all the Two Blues lot can wear now (Chavs r us)
[quote][p][bold]punkrocker[/bold] wrote: This could also apply to Bishop Auckland. Traffic (little Hitlers) Wardens every where. No wonder so many empty shops. SAD[/p][/quote]Bishop Auckland town centre's a disgrace compared to D'ton's . Just as well Sports direct shop is there as it seems that's all the Two Blues lot can wear now (Chavs r us) springer88
  • Score: -1

11:11am Thu 3 Jul 14

jaka-adu says...

So from reading the comments above what have we learned today children?
Bill Dixon doesn't back hiself with facts or figures (shock)
Other places around the north east offer more shops and free parking (potentially giving commenters a reason to look elsewhere)
Labour will Mott be in charge after the next election here (yeah right most people who claim to vote someone else don't even vote)
We need a park and ride the steam train (which is fresh to me)

Overall I see nothing changing (surprise)
So from reading the comments above what have we learned today children? Bill Dixon doesn't back hiself with facts or figures (shock) Other places around the north east offer more shops and free parking (potentially giving commenters a reason to look elsewhere) Labour will Mott be in charge after the next election here (yeah right most people who claim to vote someone else don't even vote) We need a park and ride the steam train (which is fresh to me) Overall I see nothing changing (surprise) jaka-adu
  • Score: -1

2:17pm Thu 3 Jul 14

charlie7t says...

refering to a new article
http://www.thenorthe
rnecho.co.uk/news/lo
cal/darlington/11318
408.Market_comes_to_
town/?action=success
#comments
market day on sunday --- give free parking for 1 day and watch the customers flock
refering to a new article http://www.thenorthe rnecho.co.uk/news/lo cal/darlington/11318 408.Market_comes_to_ town/?action=success #comments market day on sunday --- give free parking for 1 day and watch the customers flock charlie7t
  • Score: 0

6:07pm Thu 3 Jul 14

craiggraham says...

i parked my car on a night out in the street behind Argos where charges start at 9am, i got a ticket at 845am? (the time i collected it) Had to appeal and of course won but the chew of doing it was a nightmare.
Its just a money making scheme....
i parked my car on a night out in the street behind Argos where charges start at 9am, i got a ticket at 845am? (the time i collected it) Had to appeal and of course won but the chew of doing it was a nightmare. Its just a money making scheme.... craiggraham
  • Score: 4

7:31pm Thu 3 Jul 14

behonest says...

craiggraham wrote:
i parked my car on a night out in the street behind Argos where charges start at 9am, i got a ticket at 845am? (the time i collected it) Had to appeal and of course won but the chew of doing it was a nightmare. Its just a money making scheme....
Can you not sue for this? The time and inconvenience caused must be worth some compensation?
If it was me I'd have ignored the fine, ignored the reminders, and wait for it to go to Court. Then I'd say I wrote to the council to appeal but I received no reply. Then prove the obvious mistake to the Court, and ask for costs!
[quote][p][bold]craiggraham[/bold] wrote: i parked my car on a night out in the street behind Argos where charges start at 9am, i got a ticket at 845am? (the time i collected it) Had to appeal and of course won but the chew of doing it was a nightmare. Its just a money making scheme....[/p][/quote]Can you not sue for this? The time and inconvenience caused must be worth some compensation? If it was me I'd have ignored the fine, ignored the reminders, and wait for it to go to Court. Then I'd say I wrote to the council to appeal but I received no reply. Then prove the obvious mistake to the Court, and ask for costs! behonest
  • Score: 0

5:44am Fri 4 Jul 14

bambara says...

Red rose lad wrote:
Stoogetastic Bambi. I'm not a member of UKIP or a Tory however I did vote UKIP last time. It's not that the Council are right wing or Labour that bothers me but the fact that there are too many of them and their actions are not in the best interests of the good people of this parish. They look after their own overpaid interests whilst cutting those who deliver essential services. I may not agree with many of the things you say but it's your opinion. What shreds your credibility is that you agree with everything they do and even back them as if they are family members or colleagues. At least that's how it comes across. We are getting a poor service for our money and it's time for a change. Also, there do appear to be quite a few folks on here who disagree with your accusation of their political leanings. Not everyone fits your indoctrinated stereotyping. Wake up and smell the coffee chap.
Propaganda tastic Red rose stooge.
I am not a member of the Labour party, (as I have pointed out previously) but I do regard them as the least worst option.
It's not that I agree with everything the council does, just that I don't stand by and let the right wing posters get away with running them down with negative comments which run counter to the actual truth.
I may not agree with many of the things you say, but what shreds your credibility is that you disagree with everything they do, and even attack them over things they have no control of. You come across as if you have some personnal vendetta against them and everyone who is employed by them, and you even admit to voting UKIP, and so identify yourself with a right wing viewpoint. At least that is how it comes across.
You from your right wing viewpoint post opinions that the council is not performing, but do not back this with any evidence. That makes it rather look like you are just attempting to run down the council for your own personnal or political reasons.
I back my opinions with evidence. I have shown mine, show me yours.
[quote][p][bold]Red rose lad[/bold] wrote: Stoogetastic Bambi. I'm not a member of UKIP or a Tory however I did vote UKIP last time. It's not that the Council are right wing or Labour that bothers me but the fact that there are too many of them and their actions are not in the best interests of the good people of this parish. They look after their own overpaid interests whilst cutting those who deliver essential services. I may not agree with many of the things you say but it's your opinion. What shreds your credibility is that you agree with everything they do and even back them as if they are family members or colleagues. At least that's how it comes across. We are getting a poor service for our money and it's time for a change. Also, there do appear to be quite a few folks on here who disagree with your accusation of their political leanings. Not everyone fits your indoctrinated stereotyping. Wake up and smell the coffee chap.[/p][/quote]Propaganda tastic Red rose stooge. I am not a member of the Labour party, (as I have pointed out previously) but I do regard them as the least worst option. It's not that I agree with everything the council does, just that I don't stand by and let the right wing posters get away with running them down with negative comments which run counter to the actual truth. I may not agree with many of the things you say, but what shreds your credibility is that you disagree with everything they do, and even attack them over things they have no control of. You come across as if you have some personnal vendetta against them and everyone who is employed by them, and you even admit to voting UKIP, and so identify yourself with a right wing viewpoint. At least that is how it comes across. You from your right wing viewpoint post opinions that the council is not performing, but do not back this with any evidence. That makes it rather look like you are just attempting to run down the council for your own personnal or political reasons. I back my opinions with evidence. I have shown mine, show me yours. bambara
  • Score: 0

5:45am Fri 4 Jul 14

bambara says...

Red rose lad wrote:
Stoogetastic Bambi. I'm not a member of UKIP or a Tory however I did vote UKIP last time. It's not that the Council are right wing or Labour that bothers me but the fact that there are too many of them and their actions are not in the best interests of the good people of this parish. They look after their own overpaid interests whilst cutting those who deliver essential services. I may not agree with many of the things you say but it's your opinion. What shreds your credibility is that you agree with everything they do and even back them as if they are family members or colleagues. At least that's how it comes across. We are getting a poor service for our money and it's time for a change. Also, there do appear to be quite a few folks on here who disagree with your accusation of their political leanings. Not everyone fits your indoctrinated stereotyping. Wake up and smell the coffee chap.
Propaganda tastic Red rose stooge.
I am not a member of the Labour party, (as I have pointed out previously) but I do regard them as the least worst option.
It's not that I agree with everything the council does, just that I don't stand by and let the right wing posters get away with running them down with negative comments which run counter to the actual truth.
I may not agree with many of the things you say, but what shreds your credibility is that you disagree with everything they do, and even attack them over things they have no control of. You come across as if you have some personnal vendetta against them and everyone who is employed by them, and you even admit to voting UKIP, and so identify yourself with a right wing viewpoint. At least that is how it comes across.
You from your right wing viewpoint post opinions that the council is not performing, but do not back this with any evidence. That makes it rather look like you are just attempting to run down the council for your own personnal or political reasons.
I back my opinions with evidence. I have shown mine, show me yours.
[quote][p][bold]Red rose lad[/bold] wrote: Stoogetastic Bambi. I'm not a member of UKIP or a Tory however I did vote UKIP last time. It's not that the Council are right wing or Labour that bothers me but the fact that there are too many of them and their actions are not in the best interests of the good people of this parish. They look after their own overpaid interests whilst cutting those who deliver essential services. I may not agree with many of the things you say but it's your opinion. What shreds your credibility is that you agree with everything they do and even back them as if they are family members or colleagues. At least that's how it comes across. We are getting a poor service for our money and it's time for a change. Also, there do appear to be quite a few folks on here who disagree with your accusation of their political leanings. Not everyone fits your indoctrinated stereotyping. Wake up and smell the coffee chap.[/p][/quote]Propaganda tastic Red rose stooge. I am not a member of the Labour party, (as I have pointed out previously) but I do regard them as the least worst option. It's not that I agree with everything the council does, just that I don't stand by and let the right wing posters get away with running them down with negative comments which run counter to the actual truth. I may not agree with many of the things you say, but what shreds your credibility is that you disagree with everything they do, and even attack them over things they have no control of. You come across as if you have some personnal vendetta against them and everyone who is employed by them, and you even admit to voting UKIP, and so identify yourself with a right wing viewpoint. At least that is how it comes across. You from your right wing viewpoint post opinions that the council is not performing, but do not back this with any evidence. That makes it rather look like you are just attempting to run down the council for your own personnal or political reasons. I back my opinions with evidence. I have shown mine, show me yours. bambara
  • Score: 0

5:48am Fri 4 Jul 14

bambara says...

LUSTARD wrote:
Jonn wrote:
Putting politics aside for one moment.....
Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it?
There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough.
Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.
tinternet is such a phenomenan isnt it, you should take time to read the notices on some shops when theyve shut and most say our lease is up please visit our website for online shopping, a years rent and rates pays in some cases buys you an in industrial unit and a good website. smell the coffee, darlington has a worldwide reputation for trains and engineering with a grand little almost secret station on north rd that could really be massivelly used for tourism when you consider theyre quietly beavering away next door to it building steam trains,,,, and then shipping them of somewhere else,,,, theyre ours bring em back. build a big car park behind it and catch a historic steam train into town the best park and ride in the world.
Spot on. Don't often agree with you Lustard but this one I think is an excellent idea.
[quote][p][bold]LUSTARD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Putting politics aside for one moment..... Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it? There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough. Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.[/p][/quote]tinternet is such a phenomenan isnt it, you should take time to read the notices on some shops when theyve shut and most say our lease is up please visit our website for online shopping, a years rent and rates pays in some cases buys you an in industrial unit and a good website. smell the coffee, darlington has a worldwide reputation for trains and engineering with a grand little almost secret station on north rd that could really be massivelly used for tourism when you consider theyre quietly beavering away next door to it building steam trains,,,, and then shipping them of somewhere else,,,, theyre ours bring em back. build a big car park behind it and catch a historic steam train into town the best park and ride in the world.[/p][/quote]Spot on. Don't often agree with you Lustard but this one I think is an excellent idea. bambara
  • Score: 3

5:53am Fri 4 Jul 14

bambara says...

loan_star wrote:
Well my memory of the 80s was a thriving market and a wide variety of shops, nearly all units were taken and the town was very busy at a weekend. It was nowhere near as dead as it is now under a Labour council and MP.
Funny because my memory is very different. Perhaps you are remembering Darlington before the Tories closed all the industry and killed the economy of the north of England. Or perhaps just looking through blue tinted spectacles.
[quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: Well my memory of the 80s was a thriving market and a wide variety of shops, nearly all units were taken and the town was very busy at a weekend. It was nowhere near as dead as it is now under a Labour council and MP.[/p][/quote]Funny because my memory is very different. Perhaps you are remembering Darlington before the Tories closed all the industry and killed the economy of the north of England. Or perhaps just looking through blue tinted spectacles. bambara
  • Score: -1

6:16am Fri 4 Jul 14

bambara says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
bambara wrote:
Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party.
Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved.
Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?
Well I voted Labour all my life but I will not vote Labour at the Darlington Council elections. This council is not Labour it's a bunch of self serving, arrogant incompetents who use the labour banner to get what they want. Darlington is far worse than other councils facing similar cuts. What is a problem in Darlington is the dire quality of the opposition.

You also seem to say anyone opposed to the Labour Party in Darlington is anti-Darlington. The opposite is true we do not want to stand by and let it go further downhill.

There are poster on here who unswervingly follow the council line and even quote comments by councillors. They claim to have the best interests of Darlington at heart but I think they are attracted to the coat tails of people who have an illusion of power

I think Samuel Johnson once said "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels"
Very nice quote Homshaw - Almost defines UKIP to a T

Like I have said many times, I vote Labour not because I think they are perfect, but because they are the least worst option. I'm under no illusion that they are will get everything right, they don't match my views 100%, in some areas they are not even close, but they are closer than any of the other options, and they are a closer representation to the ordinary people than any of the other options. The Libdems have some good policies, but by facilitating the Tories they have really lost any chance they had.
It is a similar situation for the local council, they are not perfect, some stuff they do I don't agree with, but they are the least worst option.
So your problem is that the alternative to Labour in Darlington is the Tories and by definition they are far more likely to be self serving, arrogant and in many cases sociopathic. They are the posh boys and girls who most often were born priviliged and believe they have a god given right to stay privilged. Few of them have ever experienced life as lived by the vast majority of ordinary people and they neither know nor care what the impacts of their policies are on those masses.
Of course you could vote UKIP and get a bunch who are so far off to the right wing that they don't even fit in the tory party, and who come with an added bonus of the random selection of racists, misogonists, homophobes and neo-nazi's tagging along for the ride.

I think I'll stick with Labour - Not much of a rallying call but still the least worst option.
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: Some posters accuse those who comment in favour of Darlington as a town, or who defend the council of being "Labour activists", which is funny as those same posters most often go on to urge people to vote for one of the right wing parties. They accuse their opponents of being in some way linked to the current council or the labour party. Well I'm one of the "leftie" posters, I'm not a member of the labour party, I am not related to any member of the council, I have said in the past that I vote labour only because they are the least worst option. - So those accusations are already disproved. Now to you right wing posters, how many of you are members of UKIP or the Tory party and are posting your negative comments to run down the council and campaign for your party?[/p][/quote]Well I voted Labour all my life but I will not vote Labour at the Darlington Council elections. This council is not Labour it's a bunch of self serving, arrogant incompetents who use the labour banner to get what they want. Darlington is far worse than other councils facing similar cuts. What is a problem in Darlington is the dire quality of the opposition. You also seem to say anyone opposed to the Labour Party in Darlington is anti-Darlington. The opposite is true we do not want to stand by and let it go further downhill. There are poster on here who unswervingly follow the council line and even quote comments by councillors. They claim to have the best interests of Darlington at heart but I think they are attracted to the coat tails of people who have an illusion of power I think Samuel Johnson once said "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels"[/p][/quote]Very nice quote Homshaw - Almost defines UKIP to a T Like I have said many times, I vote Labour not because I think they are perfect, but because they are the least worst option. I'm under no illusion that they are will get everything right, they don't match my views 100%, in some areas they are not even close, but they are closer than any of the other options, and they are a closer representation to the ordinary people than any of the other options. The Libdems have some good policies, but by facilitating the Tories they have really lost any chance they had. It is a similar situation for the local council, they are not perfect, some stuff they do I don't agree with, but they are the least worst option. So your problem is that the alternative to Labour in Darlington is the Tories and by definition they are far more likely to be self serving, arrogant and in many cases sociopathic. They are the posh boys and girls who most often were born priviliged and believe they have a god given right to stay privilged. Few of them have ever experienced life as lived by the vast majority of ordinary people and they neither know nor care what the impacts of their policies are on those masses. Of course you could vote UKIP and get a bunch who are so far off to the right wing that they don't even fit in the tory party, and who come with an added bonus of the random selection of racists, misogonists, homophobes and neo-nazi's tagging along for the ride. I think I'll stick with Labour - Not much of a rallying call but still the least worst option. bambara
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2:27pm Fri 4 Jul 14

mjchecks says...

There is a very easy answer to this problem. Buy a caravan, move it into your back garden and move your relatives in. (Saves council tax). Then go and buy yourself a Transit van or an over large type vehicle. You can now park anywhere you want without worrying about tickets!!! You also don't need to bother about insurance, licences and general traffic laws etc.
RING A BELL ANYONE!!!!
There is a very easy answer to this problem. Buy a caravan, move it into your back garden and move your relatives in. (Saves council tax). Then go and buy yourself a Transit van or an over large type vehicle. You can now park anywhere you want without worrying about tickets!!! You also don't need to bother about insurance, licences and general traffic laws etc. RING A BELL ANYONE!!!! mjchecks
  • Score: 2

3:27pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Spy Boy says...

stupid73 wrote:
Jonn wrote:
Putting politics aside for one moment.....
Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it?
There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough.
Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.
Your wasting your time Jonn, the half a dozen trolls on here just love to bash Darlington's council given any opportunity.
It's actually called Freedom of Speech. If the council did good things, I'm sure everyone would be very happy. As for "Given any opportunity," they certainly give us plenty of scope.
[quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Putting politics aside for one moment..... Most, if not all Councils across the country now enforce these draconian parking practices. It's not just Darlington or Labour run Councils, it's all of them. Get it? There's plenty of car parks in Darlington, use them, like every other towns people do. If you can't be @rsed to walk 5 or 10 minutes to the shops, tough. Most, if not all town centres are struggling to fill vacant shops, it's a sign of the times, it's called the Internet.[/p][/quote]Your wasting your time Jonn, the half a dozen trolls on here just love to bash Darlington's council given any opportunity.[/p][/quote]It's actually called Freedom of Speech. If the council did good things, I'm sure everyone would be very happy. As for "Given any opportunity," they certainly give us plenty of scope. Spy Boy
  • Score: 0

3:36pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Spy Boy says...

loan_star wrote:
spragger wrote:
Activism over the political mafia
What is not to like
The Labour party will ruin the town, walk away with impunity, leaving someone else to clear the mess up
What's new? Have a look at the countries economy
Labour won't walk away from Darlington because people keep voting them back in, no matter what mess they make. This gives them licence to do whatever they want whether the residents agree or not. But its all good because they are Labour and they can do no wrong in some peoples eyes.
I still don't believe that they are real socialists. They have no redeeming qualities at all. They wear the Red Rosette to ensure that they get re-elected every time. No more than that. Everyone that has worked for this council knows that to get on they need to join the party. Don't think it's anything to do with ideological beliefs.
[quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spragger[/bold] wrote: Activism over the political mafia What is not to like The Labour party will ruin the town, walk away with impunity, leaving someone else to clear the mess up What's new? Have a look at the countries economy[/p][/quote]Labour won't walk away from Darlington because people keep voting them back in, no matter what mess they make. This gives them licence to do whatever they want whether the residents agree or not. But its all good because they are Labour and they can do no wrong in some peoples eyes.[/p][/quote]I still don't believe that they are real socialists. They have no redeeming qualities at all. They wear the Red Rosette to ensure that they get re-elected every time. No more than that. Everyone that has worked for this council knows that to get on they need to join the party. Don't think it's anything to do with ideological beliefs. Spy Boy
  • Score: 1

6:11pm Fri 4 Jul 14

loan_star says...

bambara wrote:
Red rose lad wrote:
Stoogetastic Bambi. I'm not a member of UKIP or a Tory however I did vote UKIP last time. It's not that the Council are right wing or Labour that bothers me but the fact that there are too many of them and their actions are not in the best interests of the good people of this parish. They look after their own overpaid interests whilst cutting those who deliver essential services. I may not agree with many of the things you say but it's your opinion. What shreds your credibility is that you agree with everything they do and even back them as if they are family members or colleagues. At least that's how it comes across. We are getting a poor service for our money and it's time for a change. Also, there do appear to be quite a few folks on here who disagree with your accusation of their political leanings. Not everyone fits your indoctrinated stereotyping. Wake up and smell the coffee chap.
Propaganda tastic Red rose stooge.
I am not a member of the Labour party, (as I have pointed out previously) but I do regard them as the least worst option.
It's not that I agree with everything the council does, just that I don't stand by and let the right wing posters get away with running them down with negative comments which run counter to the actual truth.
I may not agree with many of the things you say, but what shreds your credibility is that you disagree with everything they do, and even attack them over things they have no control of. You come across as if you have some personnal vendetta against them and everyone who is employed by them, and you even admit to voting UKIP, and so identify yourself with a right wing viewpoint. At least that is how it comes across.
You from your right wing viewpoint post opinions that the council is not performing, but do not back this with any evidence. That makes it rather look like you are just attempting to run down the council for your own personnal or political reasons.
I back my opinions with evidence. I have shown mine, show me yours.
Ahh Bambara, you are alive!!! Heres me thinking you had died, or are you just ignoring the article about council execs pay rises deliberately? Come on, we are all dying to know your view of Dixons latest scandal!
[quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red rose lad[/bold] wrote: Stoogetastic Bambi. I'm not a member of UKIP or a Tory however I did vote UKIP last time. It's not that the Council are right wing or Labour that bothers me but the fact that there are too many of them and their actions are not in the best interests of the good people of this parish. They look after their own overpaid interests whilst cutting those who deliver essential services. I may not agree with many of the things you say but it's your opinion. What shreds your credibility is that you agree with everything they do and even back them as if they are family members or colleagues. At least that's how it comes across. We are getting a poor service for our money and it's time for a change. Also, there do appear to be quite a few folks on here who disagree with your accusation of their political leanings. Not everyone fits your indoctrinated stereotyping. Wake up and smell the coffee chap.[/p][/quote]Propaganda tastic Red rose stooge. I am not a member of the Labour party, (as I have pointed out previously) but I do regard them as the least worst option. It's not that I agree with everything the council does, just that I don't stand by and let the right wing posters get away with running them down with negative comments which run counter to the actual truth. I may not agree with many of the things you say, but what shreds your credibility is that you disagree with everything they do, and even attack them over things they have no control of. You come across as if you have some personnal vendetta against them and everyone who is employed by them, and you even admit to voting UKIP, and so identify yourself with a right wing viewpoint. At least that is how it comes across. You from your right wing viewpoint post opinions that the council is not performing, but do not back this with any evidence. That makes it rather look like you are just attempting to run down the council for your own personnal or political reasons. I back my opinions with evidence. I have shown mine, show me yours.[/p][/quote]Ahh Bambara, you are alive!!! Heres me thinking you had died, or are you just ignoring the article about council execs pay rises deliberately? Come on, we are all dying to know your view of Dixons latest scandal! loan_star
  • Score: -1

7:12pm Sat 12 Jul 14

petereed says...

entirely agree we stopped shopping in darlington because of parking spaces are the narrowest in the uk ...fact ..much narrower than the goverment guidelines two cars side by side and you cannot open the doors...go to boro now cheaper parking etc
entirely agree we stopped shopping in darlington because of parking spaces are the narrowest in the uk ...fact ..much narrower than the goverment guidelines two cars side by side and you cannot open the doors...go to boro now cheaper parking etc petereed
  • Score: 0

12:47pm Mon 14 Jul 14

lammy82 says...

"if you can’t get cars in, it effects trade"

That sounds like the opposite of what was meant.

Also, the traffic warden's number, "starred out" in the article, is clearly visible in the photo.
"if you can’t get cars in, it effects trade" That sounds like the opposite of what was meant. Also, the traffic warden's number, "starred out" in the article, is clearly visible in the photo. lammy82
  • Score: 0

11:28pm Tue 22 Jul 14

g10001 says...

Jonn wrote:
Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like?
Just asking out of interest?
Easy to answer that one - Darlington ! park outside the church on parkgate where you want as long as you want , on double yellows ,halfway on the pavement - no problem with traffic wardens there - not trying to be funny just stating a fact !
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Just wondering if any one of the complainers can name another town where you can park on double yellows and not get a ticket? Or a town where you can park where ever you like, right in the centre, for free, for as long as you like? Just asking out of interest?[/p][/quote]Easy to answer that one - Darlington ! park outside the church on parkgate where you want as long as you want , on double yellows ,halfway on the pavement - no problem with traffic wardens there - not trying to be funny just stating a fact ! g10001
  • Score: 0

11:56pm Tue 22 Jul 14

g10001 says...

pager11 wrote:
thetruthyoucanthandl

ethetruth
wrote:
pager11 wrote:
loan_star wrote:
One of the lads I work with got a ticket yesterday. He was working on some shop fitting in the market hall and needed his van parked close by to load and unload items. He got a ticket because he was away from the van for too long between loads. Now it seems like its illegal to go about genuine business without worrying about these ticket happy people decorating vehicles.
Yet every time theres a service on at the traveller church they park on the double yellow lines and two wheels on the pavement, contravening two different parking rules and yet NEVER get a ticket.
You are absolutely right about the church parking, I rang the parking office up and told them 2 years ago about the parking and even took pictures. but they are not bothered, its no wonder people complain on here about the council and travellers, Bill needs to wake up and maybe if all the town people were treat fairly and squarely people would not have a go at him and his cronies. You cannot have a rule for them and a different rule for everybody else, I assumeD Bill was an educated man.
I've taken photos this weekend of the gypos parked at church, so they can repent their weekly sins. No fewer than 8 vehicles parked illegally on the pavements and not a single ticket issued and no wardens to be seen. I'll be emailing the council and will be asking for the reasons why everyone else is treated differently to the town thieves.
Send the pictures to the The Mail, scan them in you can find the address on line.
Remember about 3 years ago when they parked outside the magistrates court/police station tied the horses to the railings and nobody received a ticket ! - reminds you of the old Roy Orbison song "running scared"
[quote][p][bold]pager11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pager11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: One of the lads I work with got a ticket yesterday. He was working on some shop fitting in the market hall and needed his van parked close by to load and unload items. He got a ticket because he was away from the van for too long between loads. Now it seems like its illegal to go about genuine business without worrying about these ticket happy people decorating vehicles. Yet every time theres a service on at the traveller church they park on the double yellow lines and two wheels on the pavement, contravening two different parking rules and yet NEVER get a ticket.[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right about the church parking, I rang the parking office up and told them 2 years ago about the parking and even took pictures. but they are not bothered, its no wonder people complain on here about the council and travellers, Bill needs to wake up and maybe if all the town people were treat fairly and squarely people would not have a go at him and his cronies. You cannot have a rule for them and a different rule for everybody else, I assumeD Bill was an educated man.[/p][/quote]I've taken photos this weekend of the gypos parked at church, so they can repent their weekly sins. No fewer than 8 vehicles parked illegally on the pavements and not a single ticket issued and no wardens to be seen. I'll be emailing the council and will be asking for the reasons why everyone else is treated differently to the town thieves.[/p][/quote]Send the pictures to the The Mail, scan them in you can find the address on line.[/p][/quote]Remember about 3 years ago when they parked outside the magistrates court/police station tied the horses to the railings and nobody received a ticket ! - reminds you of the old Roy Orbison song "running scared" g10001
  • Score: 0

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