Permission granted for multi-storey car park in Darlington

Darlington and Stockton Times: Artist's impression of the car park Artist's impression of the car park

PLANNING permission has been granted for a “massive” multi-storey car park in Darlington.

The 650-space five storey development is being built to accommodate the extra traffic generated when the under-development Feethams leisure complex is complete.

Darlington Borough Council leader Bill Dixon told a meeting of the town’s planning committee that the car park – to be built on Beaumont Street - might not win any beauty competitions but was absolutely necessary to cope with the predicted increase in demand for town centre parking.

He also said its location would help the town centre thrive by increasing footfall for businesses in its vicinity.

Cllr Dixon said: “This car park is not something we have just pulled out of a hat, there have been plans for a multi-storey car park on this site since 1997.

“It is an integral part of what the town centre needs. There is a real issue around a lack of footfall in Houndgate and Blackwellgate but this will increase footfall as shoppers will have to walk through there.

“This has got to be a good thing, it will give businesses on the route to Northgate a fighting chance of picking up more trade.

He added: “Not many local authorities can say that developers are flooding in with £30 million plans and either our town centre moves forward in this way or it doesn’t.

“We need to ensure, not for my sake, but for my children’s sake that we pass on a town centre that is capable of growing as we want it to.”

The development, which will be built close to listed buildings on Houndgate, has attracted concern from some local residents.

An objector speaking at today’s (June 4) meeting said the listed buildings could become damaged as a result of extra traffic and claimed there was no evidence to support the need for more town centre parking.

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4:56pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Mr A says...

How can predicted increase in demand for town centre parking be absolutely necessary?

That just doesn't make any sense. If something is only predicted how can it be absolute??
How can predicted increase in demand for town centre parking be absolutely necessary? That just doesn't make any sense. If something is only predicted how can it be absolute?? Mr A
  • Score: 9

5:12pm Wed 4 Jun 14

laughingboy51 says...

'Cos Bill Dixon and crew said so! Mr A
'Cos Bill Dixon and crew said so! Mr A laughingboy51
  • Score: 9

5:39pm Wed 4 Jun 14

LUSTARD says...

could do with some free parking couldnt we, i just a lovely stroll round the white water rafting place opposite teeside park, then into teeside park for some shopping,free parking outside the shops it is 12 mile away so 3 pound in petrol for all day really enjoyed it yorks nice too aint it , do u know in york if you want to pop in an out the shop your allowed 10 minutes free parking.
could do with some free parking couldnt we, i just a lovely stroll round the white water rafting place opposite teeside park, then into teeside park for some shopping,free parking outside the shops it is 12 mile away so 3 pound in petrol for all day really enjoyed it yorks nice too aint it , do u know in york if you want to pop in an out the shop your allowed 10 minutes free parking. LUSTARD
  • Score: 14

5:44pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Bright And Cheerful says...

Once again, what would help the situation especially for visitors would be a better public transport system certainly for the town centre, some kind of park and ride perhaps and if the leisure facilities/entertain
ment finishes late, we need a bus service that runs later to parts of Darlington and neighbouring towns. But as always this assumes that people want to visit and numbers increase, that they have money to spend and the extra facilities are supported and wanted.

And they keep building other sites that take possible business away by offering similar retail outlets. We have Durham Gate lined up near Ferryhill, another in Tindale near Bishop Auckland etc...and in towns like N. Aycliffe it means people see their own businesses suffer and retailers etc,,,leave so choice diminishes and people have to travel further which adds to their costs.
Once again, what would help the situation especially for visitors would be a better public transport system certainly for the town centre, some kind of park and ride perhaps and if the leisure facilities/entertain ment finishes late, we need a bus service that runs later to parts of Darlington and neighbouring towns. But as always this assumes that people want to visit and numbers increase, that they have money to spend and the extra facilities are supported and wanted. And they keep building other sites that take possible business away by offering similar retail outlets. We have Durham Gate lined up near Ferryhill, another in Tindale near Bishop Auckland etc...and in towns like N. Aycliffe it means people see their own businesses suffer and retailers etc,,,leave so choice diminishes and people have to travel further which adds to their costs. Bright And Cheerful
  • Score: 2

6:43pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Bank of Europe says...

My Personal request to Bill Dixon..... Please turn off the lights on Haughton Road Through Road / Roundabout, OR whatever its called, (45 minutes) to get from Hundens Lane to Aycliffe.... Disgusting i am only glad i don't do that trip on a daily basis,IF this was done Maybe JUST Maybe it may Result in people actually wanting to come to Darlington and use the Multi Car Park !!
My Personal request to Bill Dixon..... Please turn off the lights on Haughton Road Through Road / Roundabout, OR whatever its called, (45 minutes) to get from Hundens Lane to Aycliffe.... Disgusting i am only glad i don't do that trip on a daily basis,IF this was done Maybe JUST Maybe it may Result in people actually wanting to come to Darlington and use the Multi Car Park !! Bank of Europe
  • Score: 17

7:08pm Wed 4 Jun 14

HSC says...

LUSTARD wrote:
could do with some free parking couldnt we, i just a lovely stroll round the white water rafting place opposite teeside park, then into teeside park for some shopping,free parking outside the shops it is 12 mile away so 3 pound in petrol for all day really enjoyed it yorks nice too aint it , do u know in york if you want to pop in an out the shop your allowed 10 minutes free parking.
On street parking in York is £2 a hour - max stay 2 hrs!
[quote][p][bold]LUSTARD[/bold] wrote: could do with some free parking couldnt we, i just a lovely stroll round the white water rafting place opposite teeside park, then into teeside park for some shopping,free parking outside the shops it is 12 mile away so 3 pound in petrol for all day really enjoyed it yorks nice too aint it , do u know in york if you want to pop in an out the shop your allowed 10 minutes free parking.[/p][/quote]On street parking in York is £2 a hour - max stay 2 hrs! HSC
  • Score: 8

8:37pm Wed 4 Jun 14

fedup binman says...

not bad for a skint council they build a new office block in the town hall now a new car park then they spend millions on bus routes tell you to leave the car at home and use the bus what do they want you to use the car the bus
not bad for a skint council they build a new office block in the town hall now a new car park then they spend millions on bus routes tell you to leave the car at home and use the bus what do they want you to use the car the bus fedup binman
  • Score: 3

8:39pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Deebrak says...

What's the point of more car park spaces? We no longer have a town centre, shops are closing almost weekly and moving the market has killed that off!!
What's the point of more car park spaces? We no longer have a town centre, shops are closing almost weekly and moving the market has killed that off!! Deebrak
  • Score: 24

9:39pm Wed 4 Jun 14

delboy1977 says...

Bill Dixon, do you walk around the town blind folded ?
Bill Dixon, do you walk around the town blind folded ? delboy1977
  • Score: 18

10:00pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Bright And Cheerful says...

Perhaps I'm wrong and I genuinely do not know but there is an office block on the corner of Gladstone St. near the roundabout that takes you to the Ring Road or in the direction of M&S...has it ever been used? It has looked that way ever since it was built but they keep changing locations and build new properties with a similar purpose...there is a similar empty property next to the bus station in B. Auckland. that has been empty for years...I used to love shopping in Darlington but now I can get most items anywhere and with income low I make do and mend. Most of my shopping is food. Eating out is a rare event and a night out is paid for by saving money on something else.
Perhaps I'm wrong and I genuinely do not know but there is an office block on the corner of Gladstone St. near the roundabout that takes you to the Ring Road or in the direction of M&S...has it ever been used? It has looked that way ever since it was built but they keep changing locations and build new properties with a similar purpose...there is a similar empty property next to the bus station in B. Auckland. that has been empty for years...I used to love shopping in Darlington but now I can get most items anywhere and with income low I make do and mend. Most of my shopping is food. Eating out is a rare event and a night out is paid for by saving money on something else. Bright And Cheerful
  • Score: 13

10:04pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Awake-in-Darlo says...

Deebrak wrote:
What's the point of more car park spaces? We no longer have a town centre, shops are closing almost weekly and moving the market has killed that off!!
How many spaces will there be in this eyesore ? What will tempt this extra number of drivers to pay to park in Darlington ? As pointed out in other comments, those who like to shop can do so for free and with a wider choice elsewhere. The town`s heritage and historical interest, and former popular market, are being eroded by this very same bunch in the Town Hall. What have they done to the town ?
Traffic chaos and no place for public transport , can`t afford a bus station,
pricing small traders out by high rents and business rates and the BID
stealth tax. Goodbye to Feethams, the Arts Centre, town Museum long gone etc. It is all a bit sad. So they decide to build a huge car park. Why ?
[quote][p][bold]Deebrak[/bold] wrote: What's the point of more car park spaces? We no longer have a town centre, shops are closing almost weekly and moving the market has killed that off!![/p][/quote]How many spaces will there be in this eyesore ? What will tempt this extra number of drivers to pay to park in Darlington ? As pointed out in other comments, those who like to shop can do so for free and with a wider choice elsewhere. The town`s heritage and historical interest, and former popular market, are being eroded by this very same bunch in the Town Hall. What have they done to the town ? Traffic chaos and no place for public transport , can`t afford a bus station, pricing small traders out by high rents and business rates and the BID stealth tax. Goodbye to Feethams, the Arts Centre, town Museum long gone etc. It is all a bit sad. So they decide to build a huge car park. Why ? Awake-in-Darlo
  • Score: 27

10:38pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Vote4Rob says...

Yes DBC... Build a car park prematurely for a town which is losing business to retail parks due to what? Free parking! How is this going to improve footfall if people aren't prepared to pay for parking? Please, before this is another waste of money, listen to the people who are paying your wages!
Yes DBC... Build a car park prematurely for a town which is losing business to retail parks due to what? Free parking! How is this going to improve footfall if people aren't prepared to pay for parking? Please, before this is another waste of money, listen to the people who are paying your wages! Vote4Rob
  • Score: 18

1:06am Thu 5 Jun 14

Bright And Cheerful says...

I know from recent travelling around the region in the evenings the southern part of co, Durham seems dead not long after 6pm(towns like Darlington, N. Aycliffe, B. Auckland, Spennymoor, Ferryhill etc)even the traditional pub struggles to attract customers...Is it people buying cheap booze and staying in? A lack of income, poor public transport(and cost of)the internet? I don't know but places like Durham etc...and towns further North in this county seems to have more going on whether its free or to be paid for...

Many towns no longer have facilities for people to use and communities are suffering and unless you can travel elsewhere there seems much less to do. Less than I remember during my childhood and adulthood, Or has what we once called entertainment changed and we want something else?
I know from recent travelling around the region in the evenings the southern part of co, Durham seems dead not long after 6pm(towns like Darlington, N. Aycliffe, B. Auckland, Spennymoor, Ferryhill etc)even the traditional pub struggles to attract customers...Is it people buying cheap booze and staying in? A lack of income, poor public transport(and cost of)the internet? I don't know but places like Durham etc...and towns further North in this county seems to have more going on whether its free or to be paid for... Many towns no longer have facilities for people to use and communities are suffering and unless you can travel elsewhere there seems much less to do. Less than I remember during my childhood and adulthood, Or has what we once called entertainment changed and we want something else? Bright And Cheerful
  • Score: 9

1:23am Thu 5 Jun 14

grandmab says...

They could have incorporated a bus station on the street level of this complex and brought in even more business. Without bus transport at night you are relying on those within walking distance of the pubs. Very few would risk drinking and driving and most do not arrive in one car but come separately to meet their mates.
They could have incorporated a bus station on the street level of this complex and brought in even more business. Without bus transport at night you are relying on those within walking distance of the pubs. Very few would risk drinking and driving and most do not arrive in one car but come separately to meet their mates. grandmab
  • Score: 17

6:00am Thu 5 Jun 14

david l. reed says...

A Bus Station like other towns in the North East have is another must for D'ton when will be thecouncil realise that, only when someone gets either killed or seriously injured with all the buses that run around a so-called traffic free town centre.
And no-one need say there is no suitable area for such as I know of the ideal area central to shopping, again as other towns have.
A Bus Station like other towns in the North East have is another must for D'ton when will be thecouncil realise that, only when someone gets either killed or seriously injured with all the buses that run around a so-called traffic free town centre. And no-one need say there is no suitable area for such as I know of the ideal area central to shopping, again as other towns have. david l. reed
  • Score: 13

7:44am Thu 5 Jun 14

Darloresident says...

This car park is in my view being built for DofE staff in the new building currently under construction and town hall staff who are losing parking places due to its being built.
So presumably it will be free parking for them.
Puffing Billy Dixon then hopes that the paid spaces will be taken up when the new cinema complex comes off (still by the way not oficially confirmed)..
Once again a gamble with our money being used as the stake..
This car park is in my view being built for DofE staff in the new building currently under construction and town hall staff who are losing parking places due to its being built. So presumably it will be free parking for them. Puffing Billy Dixon then hopes that the paid spaces will be taken up when the new cinema complex comes off (still by the way not oficially confirmed).. Once again a gamble with our money being used as the stake.. Darloresident
  • Score: 16

10:31am Thu 5 Jun 14

Mr A says...

Bill Dixon. Why do you think the footfall is so high in out of town shopping areas?
Could it be free parking?
Bill Dixon. Why do you think the footfall is so high in out of town shopping areas? Could it be free parking? Mr A
  • Score: 10

2:35pm Thu 5 Jun 14

N E Reader says...

Darloresident wrote:
This car park is in my view being built for DofE staff in the new building currently under construction and town hall staff who are losing parking places due to its being built.
So presumably it will be free parking for them.
Puffing Billy Dixon then hopes that the paid spaces will be taken up when the new cinema complex comes off (still by the way not oficially confirmed)..
Once again a gamble with our money being used as the stake..
400 jobs being moved form the edge of town into the town centre, with the associated knock on spending in town centre shops; has to be a good thing surely?

Likewise, there is no free/subsidised parking. They are treated the same way as any other worker.
[quote][p][bold]Darloresident[/bold] wrote: This car park is in my view being built for DofE staff in the new building currently under construction and town hall staff who are losing parking places due to its being built. So presumably it will be free parking for them. Puffing Billy Dixon then hopes that the paid spaces will be taken up when the new cinema complex comes off (still by the way not oficially confirmed).. Once again a gamble with our money being used as the stake..[/p][/quote]400 jobs being moved form the edge of town into the town centre, with the associated knock on spending in town centre shops; has to be a good thing surely? Likewise, there is no free/subsidised parking. They are treated the same way as any other worker. N E Reader
  • Score: 1

5:51pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Border Terrier says...

Darlington BC praying for a Labour victory in 2015 General Election.
Then service can be resumed in wasting more tax payers money?
Darlington BC praying for a Labour victory in 2015 General Election. Then service can be resumed in wasting more tax payers money? Border Terrier
  • Score: 8

10:01am Fri 6 Jun 14

cheapside says...

I note from the plans that there are a total of 28 Disability parking bays in this multi-storey. Why?
Blue badge users are permitted to park in otherwise limited parking areas ( single yellow lines).
Is the council going to remove going to remove on street parking and "double up" the single yellows to force people to use their " new asset"
How will wheelchair users and others with poor mobility get down from the 5th
floor when the lifts break down ( as surely they will)
I note from the plans that there are a total of 28 Disability parking bays in this multi-storey. Why? Blue badge users are permitted to park in otherwise limited parking areas ( single yellow lines). Is the council going to remove going to remove on street parking and "double up" the single yellows to force people to use their " new asset" How will wheelchair users and others with poor mobility get down from the 5th floor when the lifts break down ( as surely they will) cheapside
  • Score: 5

9:06am Sat 7 Jun 14

bambara says...

What a lot of right wing propaganda being posted in response to this story.

How many of the people complaining about this are the same ones who have been complaining that a lack of parking in Darlington town centre is killing the town?
This development is a private company investing in Darlington, but from reading some of the comments you would think it was the council spending tax money to build it. Nope all they have done is approve planning permission to let the private investors build it.
So Darlington is going to get a multi-storey commercial car park, just like Middlebrough, Newcastle, Durham...
It is something virtually every big town or city has, but those with a political axe to grind are trying desperately to turn it into a negative.
What a lot of right wing propaganda being posted in response to this story. How many of the people complaining about this are the same ones who have been complaining that a lack of parking in Darlington town centre is killing the town? This development is a private company investing in Darlington, but from reading some of the comments you would think it was the council spending tax money to build it. Nope all they have done is approve planning permission to let the private investors build it. So Darlington is going to get a multi-storey commercial car park, just like Middlebrough, Newcastle, Durham... It is something virtually every big town or city has, but those with a political axe to grind are trying desperately to turn it into a negative. bambara
  • Score: 0

12:41pm Sat 7 Jun 14

david l. reed says...

Bambara you state 'something that every big town or city has' apart from a multi storey car park they also have a bus station.
Where is the development by a private company for this issue, seemingly the town hall cronies and Arriva don't think the town warrants such a build. So no wonder people turn all issues into a negative. The towns you mention above are all winning hands down and Darlington as a town is becoming desperate.
Bambara you state 'something that every big town or city has' apart from a multi storey car park they also have a bus station. Where is the development by a private company for this issue, seemingly the town hall cronies and Arriva don't think the town warrants such a build. So no wonder people turn all issues into a negative. The towns you mention above are all winning hands down and Darlington as a town is becoming desperate. david l. reed
  • Score: 2

3:02pm Sat 7 Jun 14

bambara says...

david l. reed wrote:
Bambara you state 'something that every big town or city has' apart from a multi storey car park they also have a bus station. Where is the development by a private company for this issue, seemingly the town hall cronies and Arriva don't think the town warrants such a build. So no wonder people turn all issues into a negative. The towns you mention above are all winning hands down and Darlington as a town is becoming desperate.
Or perhaps it is just that NO private companies have applied for planning permission to build a bus station.
So if you want a bus station complain to Arriva, campaign for them to plan a bus station and apply for planning permission to build one.
How many of the posters would raise objections if the councillors were to suggest spending local council tax on building one? How many would point to it and claim that it just shows that the council has money to waste on it's pet projects?
[quote][p][bold]david l. reed[/bold] wrote: Bambara you state 'something that every big town or city has' apart from a multi storey car park they also have a bus station. Where is the development by a private company for this issue, seemingly the town hall cronies and Arriva don't think the town warrants such a build. So no wonder people turn all issues into a negative. The towns you mention above are all winning hands down and Darlington as a town is becoming desperate.[/p][/quote]Or perhaps it is just that NO private companies have applied for planning permission to build a bus station. So if you want a bus station complain to Arriva, campaign for them to plan a bus station and apply for planning permission to build one. How many of the posters would raise objections if the councillors were to suggest spending local council tax on building one? How many would point to it and claim that it just shows that the council has money to waste on it's pet projects? bambara
  • Score: -3

4:37pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Bright And Cheerful says...

A bus station(and one exists there already)is planned and likely in Durham City and you all know how cramped Durham is and space is at a premium then again it does have one multi storey car park. I think Darlington has two(?)that I know of already. Is there any park and ride services in Darlington(?)Again Durham has...then again if they are like me I cannot afford to run a car anyhow so I am dependent on a bus service so I am not adding to the parking problem.

Unless, you live some distance away if the bus service was better/more frequent/less expensive/ran in evenings until late the layout of the town could be like Park and Ride without being called such a service.

But if we want the buses to take up the slack and get people out of their cars people have to use them. I often use a late bus from Durham(the lastest was 10.15pm)now its 11.15pm and the journey extended by approx. 5 miles and the bus company listened but I wonder how long it will remain in service.
A bus station(and one exists there already)is planned and likely in Durham City and you all know how cramped Durham is and space is at a premium then again it does have one multi storey car park. I think Darlington has two(?)that I know of already. Is there any park and ride services in Darlington(?)Again Durham has...then again if they are like me I cannot afford to run a car anyhow so I am dependent on a bus service so I am not adding to the parking problem. Unless, you live some distance away if the bus service was better/more frequent/less expensive/ran in evenings until late the layout of the town could be like Park and Ride without being called such a service. But if we want the buses to take up the slack and get people out of their cars people have to use them. I often use a late bus from Durham(the lastest was 10.15pm)now its 11.15pm and the journey extended by approx. 5 miles and the bus company listened but I wonder how long it will remain in service. Bright And Cheerful
  • Score: 4

1:19pm Sun 8 Jun 14

bambara says...

Don't want to be pedantic B & C, but I do know of at least 2 multi-storeys in Durham.
& if you could tell me where the multi-storey parks are in Darlo I would be interested to know. I usually end up in one of the single storey open ones that ring the centre when I go into Darlington. Unless I am taking the train off to London to work when I need to be nearer to the station.
Don't want to be pedantic B & C, but I do know of at least 2 multi-storeys in Durham. & if you could tell me where the multi-storey parks are in Darlo I would be interested to know. I usually end up in one of the single storey open ones that ring the centre when I go into Darlington. Unless I am taking the train off to London to work when I need to be nearer to the station. bambara
  • Score: -2

2:18pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Bright And Cheerful says...

Bambara, That's fine and is why I asked the question as I knew someone would have a more informative answer than myself. Some more information came my way(heresay?)I don't know...but Darlington may finally get a bus station but it could be a bit "Out of the way" I will wait and see if anything is announced officially.

It could help reduce the chaos in the town centre area. It is also said that the new station for Durham will happen soon but it will be handed back to the bus companies to manage rather than the council and this will save money. I say new station really its the same one, redesigned and a little bit of creating extra space by losing some existing buildings.

It is obvious some towns are less suitable for traffic than others. Which again kind of explains why for some retail parks or out of town sites worked for so long. And though they are trying to put a break on such projects, they are still happening.

Again, I mention two recent such places(Tindale)near B. Auckland and the soon to be added retail area at Durham Gate near Ferryhill. If they work footfall may be taken away from places like Darlington etc...There is a lot of guesswork going on because no one knows until it happens whether any proposed ideas would work.
Bambara, That's fine and is why I asked the question as I knew someone would have a more informative answer than myself. Some more information came my way(heresay?)I don't know...but Darlington may finally get a bus station but it could be a bit "Out of the way" I will wait and see if anything is announced officially. It could help reduce the chaos in the town centre area. It is also said that the new station for Durham will happen soon but it will be handed back to the bus companies to manage rather than the council and this will save money. I say new station really its the same one, redesigned and a little bit of creating extra space by losing some existing buildings. It is obvious some towns are less suitable for traffic than others. Which again kind of explains why for some retail parks or out of town sites worked for so long. And though they are trying to put a break on such projects, they are still happening. Again, I mention two recent such places(Tindale)near B. Auckland and the soon to be added retail area at Durham Gate near Ferryhill. If they work footfall may be taken away from places like Darlington etc...There is a lot of guesswork going on because no one knows until it happens whether any proposed ideas would work. Bright And Cheerful
  • Score: 5

2:34pm Sun 8 Jun 14

LUSTARD says...

HSC wrote:
LUSTARD wrote:
could do with some free parking couldnt we, i just a lovely stroll round the white water rafting place opposite teeside park, then into teeside park for some shopping,free parking outside the shops it is 12 mile away so 3 pound in petrol for all day really enjoyed it yorks nice too aint it , do u know in york if you want to pop in an out the shop your allowed 10 minutes free parking.
On street parking in York is £2 a hour - max stay 2 hrs!
im no dummy though, u see i take my bike and park half mile out the centre of york and pedal round, it was on one such occasion i saw the signs allowing you 10 mins free to nip in an out, theyd pounce on you here in darlo. and slap a nice 30 quid ticket on you.
[quote][p][bold]HSC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LUSTARD[/bold] wrote: could do with some free parking couldnt we, i just a lovely stroll round the white water rafting place opposite teeside park, then into teeside park for some shopping,free parking outside the shops it is 12 mile away so 3 pound in petrol for all day really enjoyed it yorks nice too aint it , do u know in york if you want to pop in an out the shop your allowed 10 minutes free parking.[/p][/quote]On street parking in York is £2 a hour - max stay 2 hrs![/p][/quote]im no dummy though, u see i take my bike and park half mile out the centre of york and pedal round, it was on one such occasion i saw the signs allowing you 10 mins free to nip in an out, theyd pounce on you here in darlo. and slap a nice 30 quid ticket on you. LUSTARD
  • Score: 8

8:24pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Deanne100 says...

I was quite annoyed/surprised when recently I visited a shop on Gladstone Street. I had to pay 50p for 30 minutes parking just to avoid a parking ticket so that I could go in to the shop. It is a small family run shop. I asked the sales assistant if there was any free parking near by. She said 'No'. I can't see that business or others on that street lasting much longer. People, like me, will begrudge paying to park on a side street to pop in to a corner shop. DBC, I guess you had good reasons for this action but surely there has to be another way that will not have such a negative impact on the small business' in the area????
I was quite annoyed/surprised when recently I visited a shop on Gladstone Street. I had to pay 50p for 30 minutes parking just to avoid a parking ticket so that I could go in to the shop. It is a small family run shop. I asked the sales assistant if there was any free parking near by. She said 'No'. I can't see that business or others on that street lasting much longer. People, like me, will begrudge paying to park on a side street to pop in to a corner shop. DBC, I guess you had good reasons for this action but surely there has to be another way that will not have such a negative impact on the small business' in the area???? Deanne100
  • Score: 10

1:37am Mon 9 Jun 14

wawawa84 says...

It is ridiculous the amount of whinging burks there is in this town

For 1 yes we need another multi storey
U can't say the town is dwindle lying I personally have never seen the town so full for a long time , yes maybe the market is dying but unfortunately it is 2014 people lives have changed people don't want to shop in a market because every time I go the stuff is over priced tat or knocked off/ copy clothes or stuff you can buy cheaper else were , it's time people stopped living in the past just maybe a multi storey will free up other areas of town that could be ear marked for a bus station
It is ridiculous the amount of whinging burks there is in this town For 1 yes we need another multi storey U can't say the town is dwindle lying I personally have never seen the town so full for a long time , yes maybe the market is dying but unfortunately it is 2014 people lives have changed people don't want to shop in a market because every time I go the stuff is over priced tat or knocked off/ copy clothes or stuff you can buy cheaper else were , it's time people stopped living in the past just maybe a multi storey will free up other areas of town that could be ear marked for a bus station wawawa84
  • Score: 1

10:12pm Mon 9 Jun 14

bambara says...

Bright And Cheerful wrote:
Bambara, That's fine and is why I asked the question as I knew someone would have a more informative answer than myself. Some more information came my way(heresay?)I don't know...but Darlington may finally get a bus station but it could be a bit "Out of the way" I will wait and see if anything is announced officially. It could help reduce the chaos in the town centre area. It is also said that the new station for Durham will happen soon but it will be handed back to the bus companies to manage rather than the council and this will save money. I say new station really its the same one, redesigned and a little bit of creating extra space by losing some existing buildings. It is obvious some towns are less suitable for traffic than others. Which again kind of explains why for some retail parks or out of town sites worked for so long. And though they are trying to put a break on such projects, they are still happening. Again, I mention two recent such places(Tindale)near B. Auckland and the soon to be added retail area at Durham Gate near Ferryhill. If they work footfall may be taken away from places like Darlington etc...There is a lot of guesswork going on because no one knows until it happens whether any proposed ideas would work.
Yes, the problem for Darlo council is that they don't control the planning permission for Bishop or Ferryhill and the local councils who do are absolutely doing the right thing for their own people in approving it. It reduces business for Darlington, but also reduces travel for the locals of Bishop or Ferryhill and of course adds to the rates the local councils in those areas collect as well.
In Darlingtons favour their has been a lot of house building out near the motorway and Darlington has excellent road and rail links for anyone who commutes or travels for work. So once the global recession eases and ordinary people begin to share in the improvements, Darlington is well placed to be an area of growth.
[quote][p][bold]Bright And Cheerful[/bold] wrote: Bambara, That's fine and is why I asked the question as I knew someone would have a more informative answer than myself. Some more information came my way(heresay?)I don't know...but Darlington may finally get a bus station but it could be a bit "Out of the way" I will wait and see if anything is announced officially. It could help reduce the chaos in the town centre area. It is also said that the new station for Durham will happen soon but it will be handed back to the bus companies to manage rather than the council and this will save money. I say new station really its the same one, redesigned and a little bit of creating extra space by losing some existing buildings. It is obvious some towns are less suitable for traffic than others. Which again kind of explains why for some retail parks or out of town sites worked for so long. And though they are trying to put a break on such projects, they are still happening. Again, I mention two recent such places(Tindale)near B. Auckland and the soon to be added retail area at Durham Gate near Ferryhill. If they work footfall may be taken away from places like Darlington etc...There is a lot of guesswork going on because no one knows until it happens whether any proposed ideas would work.[/p][/quote]Yes, the problem for Darlo council is that they don't control the planning permission for Bishop or Ferryhill and the local councils who do are absolutely doing the right thing for their own people in approving it. It reduces business for Darlington, but also reduces travel for the locals of Bishop or Ferryhill and of course adds to the rates the local councils in those areas collect as well. In Darlingtons favour their has been a lot of house building out near the motorway and Darlington has excellent road and rail links for anyone who commutes or travels for work. So once the global recession eases and ordinary people begin to share in the improvements, Darlington is well placed to be an area of growth. bambara
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6:39pm Mon 16 Jun 14

tpk says...

bambara wrote:
Don't want to be pedantic B & C, but I do know of at least 2 multi-storeys in Durham.
& if you could tell me where the multi-storey parks are in Darlo I would be interested to know. I usually end up in one of the single storey open ones that ring the centre when I go into Darlington. Unless I am taking the train off to London to work when I need to be nearer to the station.
There's at least 3 multi storeys in darlington, I can think of the cornmill car park, above Wilkinson's & sainsburys. The Wilkinson's one is often pretty empty & sainsburys offers 3 hours free
[quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: Don't want to be pedantic B & C, but I do know of at least 2 multi-storeys in Durham. & if you could tell me where the multi-storey parks are in Darlo I would be interested to know. I usually end up in one of the single storey open ones that ring the centre when I go into Darlington. Unless I am taking the train off to London to work when I need to be nearer to the station.[/p][/quote]There's at least 3 multi storeys in darlington, I can think of the cornmill car park, above Wilkinson's & sainsburys. The Wilkinson's one is often pretty empty & sainsburys offers 3 hours free tpk
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