'Children bigger threat to village than mental health patients,' says campaigner

VILLAGERS campaigning against the opening of a new children’s home have found evidence that a previous attempt to open the building up to community use was rejected.

Many residents in Stillington, near Stockton, registered their disapproval of a plan to convert the Old Vicarage, which has been bought by Stockton Borough Council for £400,000, into a children’s home.

Before the council and childcare experts Spark of Genius can develop the house, they must first apply for change of use permission from Stockton Council.

However, a previous attempt to change the use of the home to a centre to help people recovering from mental health issues in the 1980s was rejected by the council because it is close to a primary school, “leading to an undesirable conflict between the two uses” of the school and the house.

One resident in the village, who did not wish to be named, said: “How can Stockton Council give themselves planning permission when they have previous turned down to turn this attempt to turn the building into a nursing home for ex-mentally ill patients who, in my opinion, pose a lesser threat than children.”

No-one at the council or planning committee is able to comment until the change-of-use application has been dealt with at committee.

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11:52pm Sat 17 May 14

Voice-of-reality says...

very dangerous things, children, you know.... some of them grow up to be quite unpleasant... better just to 'be safe' in such instances.... Herod was right - don't you know.
very dangerous things, children, you know.... some of them grow up to be quite unpleasant... better just to 'be safe' in such instances.... Herod was right - don't you know. Voice-of-reality
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12:18am Sun 18 May 14

pandorica says...

These children grow up to be unpleasant snobby individuals just like the residents of Stillington. !!
These children grow up to be unpleasant snobby individuals just like the residents of Stillington. !! pandorica
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9:28am Sun 18 May 14

thehogman says...

I have worked with children with challenging behaviour for over thirty-five years, and whereas I believe there is a great need for support for these young people I do have concerns about these units being set up close to or in residential areas. These homes are not lock ups and in most cases these children can come and go as they please:
In the 80's / 90's I worked at a unit in North Yorkshire, among the youngsters who resided there, none would attend school, at least one was prostituting herself nightly aged 15 in the local town, another used his room for storing stolen goods that he was fencing locally (we were not able to search his room without police support) he later moved onto dealing in drugs ( 15 years old) at least one female became pregnant and had an abortion. Most of the children refused to get out of bed and would sleep almost all day and then spend all night awake, many would trespass in the residents gardens / land and damage and theft on local property went up, the few local shops had to ban residents unless with a key worker and then only one child at a time.
If positive help for these young people is needed homes need to be outside of what is described as the normal private residential areas...............
another damaging issue was some local children knocking on the door and asking to be taken into care, not because they were in danger but because they saw a life without boundaries when in the care system of the local authority.
All children in care deserve and have a right to be safe, sadly many experienced more danger in care because of lack of control than within the families they were taken from
I have worked with children with challenging behaviour for over thirty-five years, and whereas I believe there is a great need for support for these young people I do have concerns about these units being set up close to or in residential areas. These homes are not lock ups and in most cases these children can come and go as they please: In the 80's / 90's I worked at a unit in North Yorkshire, among the youngsters who resided there, none would attend school, at least one was prostituting herself nightly aged 15 in the local town, another used his room for storing stolen goods that he was fencing locally (we were not able to search his room without police support) he later moved onto dealing in drugs ( 15 years old) at least one female became pregnant and had an abortion. Most of the children refused to get out of bed and would sleep almost all day and then spend all night awake, many would trespass in the residents gardens / land and damage and theft on local property went up, the few local shops had to ban residents unless with a key worker and then only one child at a time. If positive help for these young people is needed homes need to be outside of what is described as the normal private residential areas............... another damaging issue was some local children knocking on the door and asking to be taken into care, not because they were in danger but because they saw a life without boundaries when in the care system of the local authority. All children in care deserve and have a right to be safe, sadly many experienced more danger in care because of lack of control than within the families they were taken from thehogman
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10:28am Fri 23 May 14

lcoxon1978 says...

thehogman wrote:
I have worked with children with challenging behaviour for over thirty-five years, and whereas I believe there is a great need for support for these young people I do have concerns about these units being set up close to or in residential areas. These homes are not lock ups and in most cases these children can come and go as they please:
In the 80's / 90's I worked at a unit in North Yorkshire, among the youngsters who resided there, none would attend school, at least one was prostituting herself nightly aged 15 in the local town, another used his room for storing stolen goods that he was fencing locally (we were not able to search his room without police support) he later moved onto dealing in drugs ( 15 years old) at least one female became pregnant and had an abortion. Most of the children refused to get out of bed and would sleep almost all day and then spend all night awake, many would trespass in the residents gardens / land and damage and theft on local property went up, the few local shops had to ban residents unless with a key worker and then only one child at a time.
If positive help for these young people is needed homes need to be outside of what is described as the normal private residential areas...............

another damaging issue was some local children knocking on the door and asking to be taken into care, not because they were in danger but because they saw a life without boundaries when in the care system of the local authority.
All children in care deserve and have a right to be safe, sadly many experienced more danger in care because of lack of control than within the families they were taken from
Their takenfrom their families or given from their familes. Put in a home wherethey already feel alone and unwanted. then society turns their back on them before they even move in and people wonder why they become a threat to society.
[quote][p][bold]thehogman[/bold] wrote: I have worked with children with challenging behaviour for over thirty-five years, and whereas I believe there is a great need for support for these young people I do have concerns about these units being set up close to or in residential areas. These homes are not lock ups and in most cases these children can come and go as they please: In the 80's / 90's I worked at a unit in North Yorkshire, among the youngsters who resided there, none would attend school, at least one was prostituting herself nightly aged 15 in the local town, another used his room for storing stolen goods that he was fencing locally (we were not able to search his room without police support) he later moved onto dealing in drugs ( 15 years old) at least one female became pregnant and had an abortion. Most of the children refused to get out of bed and would sleep almost all day and then spend all night awake, many would trespass in the residents gardens / land and damage and theft on local property went up, the few local shops had to ban residents unless with a key worker and then only one child at a time. If positive help for these young people is needed homes need to be outside of what is described as the normal private residential areas............... another damaging issue was some local children knocking on the door and asking to be taken into care, not because they were in danger but because they saw a life without boundaries when in the care system of the local authority. All children in care deserve and have a right to be safe, sadly many experienced more danger in care because of lack of control than within the families they were taken from[/p][/quote]Their takenfrom their families or given from their familes. Put in a home wherethey already feel alone and unwanted. then society turns their back on them before they even move in and people wonder why they become a threat to society. lcoxon1978
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