Anger at plan for cut-price pub beer at PoundPub

Anger at plan for cut-price pub beer at PoundPub

PoundPub

REBRAND PLAN: Georgia Browns, in Stockton

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PLANS to open a discount PoundPub in a new-look North-East town centre provoked outrage among campaigners and councillors last night.

The PoundPub - which promises "more round for your pound" - will sell halves of beer at £1 and pints at £1.50.

According to the Good Pub Guide, the average price of a pint in the North-East last year was £3.05 and the PoundPub’s prices are among the lowest in the region.

The company behind the plan -which will see a mid-market pub called Georgia Browns, in Stockton town centre, rebranded as a PoundPub -has ambitious plans to open others.

And it is seeking a licensing variation that will allow the new pub to sell alcohol from 8am.

Managers stressed last night that they would operate a responsible drinking policy. Patrons who have had too much will be refused.

But the concept is already causing concern among the town's councillors worried it will give the town centre - currently undergoing a £38m refurbishment - the wrong image.

Stockton borough councillor Phil Dennis, said he was also worried alcohol would be sold too cheaply.

"I am very concerned about the price point a unit of alcohol in this proposal," he said.

"This venture also cheapens the image of Stockton High Street at a time of investment that is intended to support a quality higher end night time economy with the redevelopment of the Globe Theatre.

"I have initial doubts and concerns about the ability of such a venue to control the environment where effectively we are selling at a point where the quality of clientele will likely match the price of the product on offer."

Ken Lupton, leader of the council's Tory group, said: "An individual pub with such a pricing policy would only be detrimental to the general improvement the council hopes to achieve with their significant investment in the High Street."

However, Mike Wardell, a director at Here for Your Hospitality Ltd which owns the premises, insisted that the pub would take part in responsible drinking campaigns, including challenging anyone who looked under 25 for identity.

He added that anyone drunk would not be served and pointed out that supermarkets are able to sell their own value beers at 40p a can - something which is not monitored by councils.

Mr Wardell said the PoundPub is aimed at the kind of person who would have frequented Working Men's Clubs in a previous generation and not the night-time market.

"It's an eye-catching logo and, I suppose it's a bit cheesy, but the phrase we're going for is 'get more round for your pound'.

"At a time when 12 pubs a week are closing across the country we have to think outside the box a bit."

The PoundPub is expected to open sometime over the Easter period and will have traditional pub games like darts and billiards. One other PoundPub is due to open in the Manchester area.

Alcohol campaigner Colin Shevells, director of Balance, said: "Drink is already too affordable, too available and too heavily promoted.

"We know that problems are caused by it being too cheap.

"The PoundPub is just part of a much bigger problem.

"We need to wake up to the problems cheap alcohol is causing both in the short and long term.

"We need to find a way to bring in a minimum price that doesn't penalise the moderate drinker and the good solid community pub. So many of them are closing because they can't compete and this will make it worse."

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8:52am Mon 24 Mar 14

truggggg says...

I see trouble a brewing if this goes ahead.
I see trouble a brewing if this goes ahead. truggggg
  • Score: 0

9:39am Mon 24 Mar 14

behonest says...

Stockton borough councillor Phil Dennis, said “I am very concerned about the price point a unit of alcohol in this proposal,"
"This venture also cheapens the image of Stockton High Street at a time of investment that is intended to support a quality higher end night time economy with the redevelopment of the Globe Theatre."

Is Phil Dennis a la-de-da Gunner Graham type? Ordinary workers, the low-paid, pensioners, etc, quite like to be able to afford a pint, Phil, not frequent the 'higher end' Globe Theatre venues - although good luck to those that do. Nothing wrong with playing darts or billiards though either, I'd suggest.

Come on, Phil Dennis, show some support for the ordinary people of Stockton!
Stockton borough councillor Phil Dennis, said “I am very concerned about the price point a unit of alcohol in this proposal," "This venture also cheapens the image of Stockton High Street at a time of investment that is intended to support a quality higher end night time economy with the redevelopment of the Globe Theatre." Is Phil Dennis a la-de-da Gunner Graham type? Ordinary workers, the low-paid, pensioners, etc, quite like to be able to afford a pint, Phil, not frequent the 'higher end' Globe Theatre venues - although good luck to those that do. Nothing wrong with playing darts or billiards though either, I'd suggest. Come on, Phil Dennis, show some support for the ordinary people of Stockton! behonest
  • Score: 15

9:50am Mon 24 Mar 14

Durhamite1979 says...

Do you really need a pint at 8am though?

Yes, I know, old enough to make my old mind up, nanny state, etc, but lets face it, people aren't competent enough to realise that 8am drinking isn't one of life's essentials...
Do you really need a pint at 8am though? Yes, I know, old enough to make my old mind up, nanny state, etc, but lets face it, people aren't competent enough to realise that 8am drinking isn't one of life's essentials... Durhamite1979
  • Score: 4

9:54am Mon 24 Mar 14

Captain Swoop says...

Why is this news? Sam Smiths Pubs are all well under £2 a Pint and always have been.

Good Real Ale as well!
Why is this news? Sam Smiths Pubs are all well under £2 a Pint and always have been. Good Real Ale as well! Captain Swoop
  • Score: 21

11:51am Mon 24 Mar 14

Got Ya says...

Cheaper than our water rates.......wish we had one where I live.
Cheaper than our water rates.......wish we had one where I live. Got Ya
  • Score: 12

12:39pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Lionel1 says...

a cheaper version of Witherspoon's then?!?
a cheaper version of Witherspoon's then?!? Lionel1
  • Score: 8

1:34pm Mon 24 Mar 14

cholmes005 says...

nowt wrong with this sort of pub as said above supermarkets are selling booze at stupid prices but council dont moan about them. I agree 8 is a bit early for a beer certainly for me maybe start selling after 10? Question is what will the quality and selection be like probs john smiths, fosters, carling etc that watered down. you dont get nothing for nothing as saying goes
nowt wrong with this sort of pub as said above supermarkets are selling booze at stupid prices but council dont moan about them. I agree 8 is a bit early for a beer certainly for me maybe start selling after 10? Question is what will the quality and selection be like probs john smiths, fosters, carling etc that watered down. you dont get nothing for nothing as saying goes cholmes005
  • Score: 4

1:43pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Awake-in-Darlo says...

Alcohol related diseases cost NHS plenty. Not to mention the misery to families of addicts ..yes alcohol is a drug . Government make too much revenue and are scared of losing votes so never will have the moral
b***s to limit sales of alcohol. Stockton does not need this and there should be a curb on selling cheap alcohol in high street shops as well. Balance
and common sense needed.....As if !
Alcohol related diseases cost NHS plenty. Not to mention the misery to families of addicts ..yes alcohol is a drug . Government make too much revenue and are scared of losing votes so never will have the moral b***s to limit sales of alcohol. Stockton does not need this and there should be a curb on selling cheap alcohol in high street shops as well. Balance and common sense needed.....As if ! Awake-in-Darlo
  • Score: -12

6:19pm Mon 24 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

Beats paying nearly £4 for a suspected 'watered down warm pint of Beer', bring it on. Ideal for the *****working***** Taxpayer..
Beats paying nearly £4 for a suspected 'watered down warm pint of Beer', bring it on. Ideal for the *****working***** Taxpayer.. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 4

9:22pm Mon 24 Mar 14

spragger says...

Good idea
Pubs are good places for responsible drinking.
The pub & licence owner are responsible for the good behaviour of their clients. .
Good idea Pubs are good places for responsible drinking. The pub & licence owner are responsible for the good behaviour of their clients. . spragger
  • Score: 4

10:12pm Mon 24 Mar 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

I can imagine the kind of scum that will frequent this place.

AVOID!!!!!!!
I can imagine the kind of scum that will frequent this place. AVOID!!!!!!! thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth
  • Score: 3

8:59am Tue 25 Mar 14

laboursfoe says...

thetruthyoucanthandl
ethetruth
wrote:
I can imagine the kind of scum that will frequent this place.

AVOID!!!!!!!
Exactly, look at some of the states that frequent Tanners in Darlington during the daytime. Sometimes it can be quite intimidating walking past the smoking garden bit having parked in the car park.

Often wondered how they can afford to get plastered between 9-5 on a working day!!! Sounds like this EasyJet approach will make it even easier!!!
[quote][p][bold]thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth[/bold] wrote: I can imagine the kind of scum that will frequent this place. AVOID!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Exactly, look at some of the states that frequent Tanners in Darlington during the daytime. Sometimes it can be quite intimidating walking past the smoking garden bit having parked in the car park. Often wondered how they can afford to get plastered between 9-5 on a working day!!! Sounds like this EasyJet approach will make it even easier!!! laboursfoe
  • Score: 2

1:26pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

laboursfoe wrote:
thetruthyoucanthandl

ethetruth
wrote:
I can imagine the kind of scum that will frequent this place.

AVOID!!!!!!!
Exactly, look at some of the states that frequent Tanners in Darlington during the daytime. Sometimes it can be quite intimidating walking past the smoking garden bit having parked in the car park.

Often wondered how they can afford to get plastered between 9-5 on a working day!!! Sounds like this EasyJet approach will make it even easier!!!
Well laboursfoe, I can shed some light on that for you. They can afford to get plastered between 9-5 because they don't work, spongers if you wish. Everything is paid for them so their pocket money goes into the Tanner's till, they can supplement their pocket money of course as Smack Converters is literally across the road!!
[quote][p][bold]laboursfoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth[/bold] wrote: I can imagine the kind of scum that will frequent this place. AVOID!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Exactly, look at some of the states that frequent Tanners in Darlington during the daytime. Sometimes it can be quite intimidating walking past the smoking garden bit having parked in the car park. Often wondered how they can afford to get plastered between 9-5 on a working day!!! Sounds like this EasyJet approach will make it even easier!!![/p][/quote]Well laboursfoe, I can shed some light on that for you. They can afford to get plastered between 9-5 because they don't work, spongers if you wish. Everything is paid for them so their pocket money goes into the Tanner's till, they can supplement their pocket money of course as Smack Converters is literally across the road!! Jackaranda
  • Score: 8

5:23pm Tue 25 Mar 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

Jackaranda wrote:
laboursfoe wrote:
thetruthyoucanthandl


ethetruth
wrote:
I can imagine the kind of scum that will frequent this place.

AVOID!!!!!!!
Exactly, look at some of the states that frequent Tanners in Darlington during the daytime. Sometimes it can be quite intimidating walking past the smoking garden bit having parked in the car park.

Often wondered how they can afford to get plastered between 9-5 on a working day!!! Sounds like this EasyJet approach will make it even easier!!!
Well laboursfoe, I can shed some light on that for you. They can afford to get plastered between 9-5 because they don't work, spongers if you wish. Everything is paid for them so their pocket money goes into the Tanner's till, they can supplement their pocket money of course as Smack Converters is literally across the road!!
Haha Smack Converters. I like it.
[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]laboursfoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth[/bold] wrote: I can imagine the kind of scum that will frequent this place. AVOID!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Exactly, look at some of the states that frequent Tanners in Darlington during the daytime. Sometimes it can be quite intimidating walking past the smoking garden bit having parked in the car park. Often wondered how they can afford to get plastered between 9-5 on a working day!!! Sounds like this EasyJet approach will make it even easier!!![/p][/quote]Well laboursfoe, I can shed some light on that for you. They can afford to get plastered between 9-5 because they don't work, spongers if you wish. Everything is paid for them so their pocket money goes into the Tanner's till, they can supplement their pocket money of course as Smack Converters is literally across the road!![/p][/quote]Haha Smack Converters. I like it. thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth
  • Score: 3

6:03pm Tue 25 Mar 14

laboursfoe says...

Jackaranda wrote:
laboursfoe wrote:
thetruthyoucanthandl


ethetruth
wrote:
I can imagine the kind of scum that will frequent this place.

AVOID!!!!!!!
Exactly, look at some of the states that frequent Tanners in Darlington during the daytime. Sometimes it can be quite intimidating walking past the smoking garden bit having parked in the car park.

Often wondered how they can afford to get plastered between 9-5 on a working day!!! Sounds like this EasyJet approach will make it even easier!!!
Well laboursfoe, I can shed some light on that for you. They can afford to get plastered between 9-5 because they don't work, spongers if you wish. Everything is paid for them so their pocket money goes into the Tanner's till, they can supplement their pocket money of course as Smack Converters is literally across the road!!
I did have those thoughts initially but we get accused of jumping to conclusions so decided to give the benefit of the doubt.

Perhaps they have Trust Funds, Shareholders or even dot com millionaires!!!
[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]laboursfoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth[/bold] wrote: I can imagine the kind of scum that will frequent this place. AVOID!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Exactly, look at some of the states that frequent Tanners in Darlington during the daytime. Sometimes it can be quite intimidating walking past the smoking garden bit having parked in the car park. Often wondered how they can afford to get plastered between 9-5 on a working day!!! Sounds like this EasyJet approach will make it even easier!!![/p][/quote]Well laboursfoe, I can shed some light on that for you. They can afford to get plastered between 9-5 because they don't work, spongers if you wish. Everything is paid for them so their pocket money goes into the Tanner's till, they can supplement their pocket money of course as Smack Converters is literally across the road!![/p][/quote]I did have those thoughts initially but we get accused of jumping to conclusions so decided to give the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps they have Trust Funds, Shareholders or even dot com millionaires!!! laboursfoe
  • Score: 2

9:27pm Tue 25 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

You have not got to go INTO certain Pubs to see some 'Criminal Anti-Social disorder, ' drink-frenzied divvi- workshy Scum', they are regularly seen OUTSIDE on our 'lager-can, broken bottle litter-strewn' Streets *day in, *day out and ***every weekend. HOW OLD??? Hence the reason why decent families in Britain avoid 'City and Town Centres' at all costs, a 'learned drink-fuelled Anti-Social Disorder Nanny benefit state British Culture'. A 'disgrace and blight on Britain' compared to many other 'European Countries' who know how to drink responsibly.
You have not got to go INTO certain Pubs to see some 'Criminal Anti-Social disorder, ' drink-frenzied divvi- workshy Scum', they are regularly seen OUTSIDE on our 'lager-can, broken bottle litter-strewn' Streets *day in, *day out and ***every weekend. HOW OLD??? Hence the reason why decent families in Britain avoid 'City and Town Centres' at all costs, a 'learned drink-fuelled Anti-Social Disorder Nanny benefit state British Culture'. A 'disgrace and blight on Britain' compared to many other 'European Countries' who know how to drink responsibly. cushybutterfield
  • Score: -3

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