Durham council agrees £20-a-year 'garden tax' for green waste collections

Darlington and Stockton Times: Simon Henig Simon Henig

GARDENERS will have to pay to have their clippings and cuttings taken away from next year.

Durham County Council currently provides a free garden waste collection service to 151,700 households around the county.

But from April 2015, a charge of £20 a year, or £1.25 per collection, will apply.

Residents will be asked if they want to opt in to the scheme, which will be offered to 186,000 households.

Those signing up for three years will get a £10 discount, reducing the three-year fee to £50.

The change is expected to save the council, which faces cuts of more than £200m, £933,000 a year.

The introduction of the charge was delayed from this April.

Liberal Democrats say the “garden tax” will lead to more fly tipping and they will push for it to be scrapped.

But Terry Collins, the council’s corporate director for neighbourhood services, said 35 per cent of English councils already charge for garden waste collections.

Simon Henig, the council’s Labour leader, said: “We have to look at everything and unfortunately now it’s necessary to cover our costs in terms of this service.”

He said the extension of the service to more households put “everyone on an even playing field”.

“It’s unfortunate that it’s necessary to have to charge but unfortunately that’s where we are.

“It was a good thing to provide a free service but we can’t anymore.”

Deputy leader Alan Napier said those who believed all services could be provided free of charge were living in “Disney land”.

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4:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

David Lacey says...

I'm opting out. One less bin to accommodate.
I'm opting out. One less bin to accommodate. David Lacey
  • Score: 23

5:03pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Longbowman666 says...

And I pay (my now rising) council tax for...?
And I pay (my now rising) council tax for...? Longbowman666
  • Score: 37

5:11pm Wed 19 Mar 14

behonest says...

I've never heard such 'rubbish'. The Labour council provides this service from the tax revenue they receive, from government and council tax payers locally. They don't charge separately for other services, that not everyone receives, so why this one? It is not a free service as Labour are trying to suggest.
And Alan Napier clearly knows nothing about free services. Have you been to Disneyland? It certainly ain't free, it's the most expensive place you'll ever go to!
I've never heard such 'rubbish'. The Labour council provides this service from the tax revenue they receive, from government and council tax payers locally. They don't charge separately for other services, that not everyone receives, so why this one? It is not a free service as Labour are trying to suggest. And Alan Napier clearly knows nothing about free services. Have you been to Disneyland? It certainly ain't free, it's the most expensive place you'll ever go to! behonest
  • Score: 32

5:13pm Wed 19 Mar 14

DrPhilanges says...

I'll be opting in.

It wouldn't cost me £20 to make 5 trips to the tip a year but would save me the effort.
I'll be opting in. It wouldn't cost me £20 to make 5 trips to the tip a year but would save me the effort. DrPhilanges
  • Score: -4

5:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

DURHAM CITY says...

One less bin at my house too
One less bin at my house too DURHAM CITY
  • Score: 22

5:24pm Wed 19 Mar 14

behonest says...

Can I opt out of libraries and museums, and get a refund? I don't use them.
Can I opt out of libraries and museums, and get a refund? I don't use them. behonest
  • Score: 50

5:52pm Wed 19 Mar 14

st-george1 says...

Sanctimonious socialist people as usual taking the superior moral high ground and telling residents they will be forced to pay for rubbish collection, whatever next .
It’s unacceptable and it has to be fraudulent in my view and those doing so must be subjected to a very public inquiry, the same people who give £millions of taxpayers money to privately owned businesses and Cricket Clubs under the guise of loans and handouts, as though it was their own …
Sanctimonious socialist people as usual taking the superior moral high ground and telling residents they will be forced to pay for rubbish collection, whatever next . It’s unacceptable and it has to be fraudulent in my view and those doing so must be subjected to a very public inquiry, the same people who give £millions of taxpayers money to privately owned businesses and Cricket Clubs under the guise of loans and handouts, as though it was their own … st-george1
  • Score: 26

6:51pm Wed 19 Mar 14

FirTreeFC says...

How is the service free, we are paying our council taxes, but never get equal services, those in rural areas should be graded can I have a rebate as I have no bus service, no local library, no local leisure centre. ? No I thought not because these gentlemen are living in Disneyland, this disney work, this disney sound good!
How is the service free, we are paying our council taxes, but never get equal services, those in rural areas should be graded can I have a rebate as I have no bus service, no local library, no local leisure centre. ? No I thought not because these gentlemen are living in Disneyland, this disney work, this disney sound good! FirTreeFC
  • Score: 36

6:52pm Wed 19 Mar 14

stevegg says...

At least you have, until now, got this service for free, in Darlington we have always had to pay for this privelege by our useless incompetant council, even during the years of double figure council tax rises.
At least you have, until now, got this service for free, in Darlington we have always had to pay for this privelege by our useless incompetant council, even during the years of double figure council tax rises. stevegg
  • Score: 19

7:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

George19 says...

Deputy leader Alan Napier said those who believed all services could be provided free of charge were living in “Disney land, which is exactly where coun Napier must come from, How much can be saved by cutting councillors expenses, laptops, iPhones etc. can they not video conference( instead of going into county hall on expenses and subsidised meals) or can they not operate the equipment they are provided with.
Deputy leader Alan Napier said those who believed all services could be provided free of charge were living in “Disney land, which is exactly where coun Napier must come from, How much can be saved by cutting councillors expenses, laptops, iPhones etc. can they not video conference( instead of going into county hall on expenses and subsidised meals) or can they not operate the equipment they are provided with. George19
  • Score: 31

7:40pm Wed 19 Mar 14

punkrocker says...

will cost more to collect and I guarantee a shambles working out who is in or out and what about the unemployed do they get it for free and only hard working folk pay?
will cost more to collect and I guarantee a shambles working out who is in or out and what about the unemployed do they get it for free and only hard working folk pay? punkrocker
  • Score: 31

8:18pm Wed 19 Mar 14

sleeping dragon says...

if terry collins got his act together and cut all the waste on the cost of fuel used by far to many vehicles for foremen, supervisors and managers who i suppose use them out of work hours also stop the people on the bottom rung taking vans home the service then could provide free green waste collection also reduce the cost of collecting bulky items.
if terry collins got his act together and cut all the waste on the cost of fuel used by far to many vehicles for foremen, supervisors and managers who i suppose use them out of work hours also stop the people on the bottom rung taking vans home the service then could provide free green waste collection also reduce the cost of collecting bulky items. sleeping dragon
  • Score: 24

8:35pm Wed 19 Mar 14

blaze467 says...

There will be an increase in fly tipping which will cost us more money.
There will be an increase in fly tipping which will cost us more money. blaze467
  • Score: 25

10:52pm Wed 19 Mar 14

settheworldonfire says...

sleeping dragon wrote:
if terry collins got his act together and cut all the waste on the cost of fuel used by far to many vehicles for foremen, supervisors and managers who i suppose use them out of work hours also stop the people on the bottom rung taking vans home the service then could provide free green waste collection also reduce the cost of collecting bulky items.
Here here..............
[quote][p][bold]sleeping dragon[/bold] wrote: if terry collins got his act together and cut all the waste on the cost of fuel used by far to many vehicles for foremen, supervisors and managers who i suppose use them out of work hours also stop the people on the bottom rung taking vans home the service then could provide free green waste collection also reduce the cost of collecting bulky items.[/p][/quote]Here here.............. settheworldonfire
  • Score: 10

10:54pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Got Ya says...

I don' t see a problem here........we get loads of charity bags through the letter box every week and I will fill them with my garden rubbish.
I don' t see a problem here........we get loads of charity bags through the letter box every week and I will fill them with my garden rubbish. Got Ya
  • Score: 17

10:55pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Geordie share says...

Mine will be going in the household bin, will just have to increase recycling a bit more...... Or buy a goat. Not paying a penny extra to durham county!!! Council tax is a joke!!!!
Mine will be going in the household bin, will just have to increase recycling a bit more...... Or buy a goat. Not paying a penny extra to durham county!!! Council tax is a joke!!!! Geordie share
  • Score: 23

6:38am Thu 20 Mar 14

tubgut says...

How much will the associated admin cost be and what will the revenue be?
More of the same tax and more tax. I recommend DCC go and poach the mayor of Doncaster he will sort this out. It's time the majority stood up and be counted, ride ourselves of councillors who ignore the people. Has the DCC organization chart and associated job descriptions been published only then will the scale of waste of tax payers money be revealed.
How much will the associated admin cost be and what will the revenue be? More of the same tax and more tax. I recommend DCC go and poach the mayor of Doncaster he will sort this out. It's time the majority stood up and be counted, ride ourselves of councillors who ignore the people. Has the DCC organization chart and associated job descriptions been published only then will the scale of waste of tax payers money be revealed. tubgut
  • Score: 14

7:36am Thu 20 Mar 14

Ally F says...

I will be opting out. Grass cuttings, autumn leaf collection and garden waste will simply be bagged and go into the general refuse bin.

Hedgerows and lay-bys around County Durham will just become dumping grounds for garden waste alongside all the other stuff already fly-tipped there.

I will write to DCC and ask them to remove the unused bin from my property. That will just leave two others, which is plenty.
I will be opting out. Grass cuttings, autumn leaf collection and garden waste will simply be bagged and go into the general refuse bin. Hedgerows and lay-bys around County Durham will just become dumping grounds for garden waste alongside all the other stuff already fly-tipped there. I will write to DCC and ask them to remove the unused bin from my property. That will just leave two others, which is plenty. Ally F
  • Score: 22

10:58am Thu 20 Mar 14

DURHAM CITY says...

George19 wrote:
Deputy leader Alan Napier said those who believed all services could be provided free of charge were living in “Disney land, which is exactly where coun Napier must come from, How much can be saved by cutting councillors expenses, laptops, iPhones etc. can they not video conference( instead of going into county hall on expenses and subsidised meals) or can they not operate the equipment they are provided with.
I totally agree with you, Deputy leader Alan Napier said those who believed all services could be provided free of charge were living in “Disney land”. I think those who believe in his cabinet that the chief exec and some of the others in the cabinet who are on the wages they are is right are living in disney land more like he want to wake up the idiot
[quote][p][bold]George19[/bold] wrote: Deputy leader Alan Napier said those who believed all services could be provided free of charge were living in “Disney land, which is exactly where coun Napier must come from, How much can be saved by cutting councillors expenses, laptops, iPhones etc. can they not video conference( instead of going into county hall on expenses and subsidised meals) or can they not operate the equipment they are provided with.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you, Deputy leader Alan Napier said those who believed all services could be provided free of charge were living in “Disney land”. I think those who believe in his cabinet that the chief exec and some of the others in the cabinet who are on the wages they are is right are living in disney land more like he want to wake up the idiot DURHAM CITY
  • Score: 15

11:06am Thu 20 Mar 14

DURHAM CITY says...

They sit there in county hall with such arrogance towards the public they make me sick, Napiers tone is such an uneducated response to the public one minute they are slagging the goverment off because of the alleged way they are hitting the council then this this Labour Cabinet don't practice what they preach they are all over the place fools. I cant wait when they come begging for votes
They sit there in county hall with such arrogance towards the public they make me sick, Napiers tone is such an uneducated response to the public one minute they are slagging the goverment off because of the alleged way they are hitting the council then this this Labour Cabinet don't practice what they preach they are all over the place fools. I cant wait when they come begging for votes DURHAM CITY
  • Score: 20

6:34pm Thu 20 Mar 14

joedarlo45 says...

The goverment say no councils can increase rates by nore than 2%...so the council go to a 1.99% increase....now they want to individually charge for services...therefore its a stealth tax...they should be ashamed....
The goverment say no councils can increase rates by nore than 2%...so the council go to a 1.99% increase....now they want to individually charge for services...therefore its a stealth tax...they should be ashamed.... joedarlo45
  • Score: 23

9:07pm Thu 20 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

Can we not impose 'a Tax' on many of the long term, 'bone idle' free British state benefit' receiving workshy that have never worked and have no intention of working (in many cases for years and decades on end), instead ?...................
Failing that can we not put the ' Long Term Benefit Punters' actually TO WORK EARNING a living removing 'hideous Graffiti' and sweeping' scruffy litter' and removing filthy fly tipping off our Streets ?. Why ?,.... should volunteers have to clean up litter and decent people and soldiers have to fill sandbags for' flood defence's' when armies of bone-idle workshy sit on their lazy butts and do absolutely nothing. Make them *****EARN***** their Free State Benefit Hand-outs.
Can we not impose 'a Tax' on many of the long term, 'bone idle' free British state benefit' receiving workshy that have never worked and have no intention of working (in many cases for years and decades on end), instead ?................... Failing that can we not put the ' Long Term Benefit Punters' actually TO WORK EARNING a living removing 'hideous Graffiti' and sweeping' scruffy litter' and removing filthy fly tipping off our Streets ?. Why ?,.... should volunteers have to clean up litter and decent people and soldiers have to fill sandbags for' flood defence's' when armies of bone-idle workshy sit on their lazy butts and do absolutely nothing. Make them *****EARN***** their Free State Benefit Hand-outs. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 11

9:27pm Thu 20 Mar 14

spragger says...

Durham Council invents another way to rip money out of your pocket to maintain all the non jobs, the Chief Execs £200,000 pa Salary.
The huge senior team, their large salaries & unaffordable pensions

Who believes a word these scumbags say ..
Durham Council invents another way to rip money out of your pocket to maintain all the non jobs, the Chief Execs £200,000 pa Salary. The huge senior team, their large salaries & unaffordable pensions Who believes a word these scumbags say .. spragger
  • Score: 27

12:34am Fri 21 Mar 14

theWorkerScum says...

behonest wrote:
Can I opt out of libraries and museums, and get a refund? I don't use them.
Only if I can opt out of everything. It's not like I use any services except for a bin.
[quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: Can I opt out of libraries and museums, and get a refund? I don't use them.[/p][/quote]Only if I can opt out of everything. It's not like I use any services except for a bin. theWorkerScum
  • Score: 10

8:45am Fri 21 Mar 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

More cuts, more paid for services,

And yet the council tax continues to rise year on year.

An absolute disgrace.
More cuts, more paid for services, And yet the council tax continues to rise year on year. An absolute disgrace. thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth
  • Score: 16

8:48am Fri 21 Mar 14

MartinMo says...

I pay council tax but as stated earlier, living in Darlington we don't get this service, in fact we get hardly any services for our money. Since I have lived in Darlington I have had to dispose of my own garden waste and to be honest I am not going to start paying extra to have it taken away because no doubt there will be restrictions set in place and you will end up having to dispose os most yourself anyway.
I pay council tax but as stated earlier, living in Darlington we don't get this service, in fact we get hardly any services for our money. Since I have lived in Darlington I have had to dispose of my own garden waste and to be honest I am not going to start paying extra to have it taken away because no doubt there will be restrictions set in place and you will end up having to dispose os most yourself anyway. MartinMo
  • Score: 10

8:56am Fri 21 Mar 14

peter laidler says...

Having weighed things up I'll elect to 'opt-in', but why can't the council give something back to the customer by way of a couple of bags of compost each year? Someone, somewhere, must be making money from re-cycling the garden waste?
Having weighed things up I'll elect to 'opt-in', but why can't the council give something back to the customer by way of a couple of bags of compost each year? Someone, somewhere, must be making money from re-cycling the garden waste? peter laidler
  • Score: 9

3:27pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

settheworldonfire wrote:
sleeping dragon wrote:
if terry collins got his act together and cut all the waste on the cost of fuel used by far to many vehicles for foremen, supervisors and managers who i suppose use them out of work hours also stop the people on the bottom rung taking vans home the service then could provide free green waste collection also reduce the cost of collecting bulky items.
Here here..............
Here here? Are you shouting for a dog? It's hear hear!!
[quote][p][bold]settheworldonfire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sleeping dragon[/bold] wrote: if terry collins got his act together and cut all the waste on the cost of fuel used by far to many vehicles for foremen, supervisors and managers who i suppose use them out of work hours also stop the people on the bottom rung taking vans home the service then could provide free green waste collection also reduce the cost of collecting bulky items.[/p][/quote]Here here..............[/p][/quote]Here here? Are you shouting for a dog? It's hear hear!! Jackaranda
  • Score: -1

6:30pm Fri 21 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

The last time I saw ANY Council Road sweeper, sweeping my street was in 1969................
....................
, shafted and conned left right and centre, paying 'Council Taxes' through the noses and what do you get, next to nowt. The working man gets nothing, the' bone idle workshy sit on their butts 'druggie and other layabouts' ....................
'get everything, every nanny free state benefit from......... 'A to Z'....What a Country.
The last time I saw ANY Council Road sweeper, sweeping my street was in 1969................ .................... , shafted and conned left right and centre, paying 'Council Taxes' through the noses and what do you get, next to nowt. The working man gets nothing, the' bone idle workshy sit on their butts 'druggie and other layabouts' .................... 'get everything, every nanny free state benefit from......... 'A to Z'....What a Country. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 5

8:37am Sat 22 Mar 14

Copley23 says...

The service started out as a free service run by funding secured by Rotters....a stand alone charity. DCC 'bought' them out when they lost their funding.

It's gone downhill from there. The wagon was too big to get to us. Irregular pick-ups. And now, the old 'shall we charge you, no we won't' debate has rumbled on for the last 3 years. We knew it would happen. They simply use it as a money grabber, not a sustainable service....they put nothing back.

Nope, DCC just can't keep their jammy little fingers out of anything without it going to the dogs.

Back to putting it into the normal refuse for us....in the charity bags.
The service started out as a free service run by funding secured by Rotters....a stand alone charity. DCC 'bought' them out when they lost their funding. It's gone downhill from there. The wagon was too big to get to us. Irregular pick-ups. And now, the old 'shall we charge you, no we won't' debate has rumbled on for the last 3 years. We knew it would happen. They simply use it as a money grabber, not a sustainable service....they put nothing back. Nope, DCC just can't keep their jammy little fingers out of anything without it going to the dogs. Back to putting it into the normal refuse for us....in the charity bags. Copley23
  • Score: 8

10:49am Sat 22 Mar 14

tomtopper says...

It won't really effect those who are trying to foist it upon us... Considering the grotesque wages they receive (140k min for Henigs immediate underlings) as well as other benefits courtesy of the taxpayer..

And they call themselves socialists! Champions of the working class! So why not follow their own principles and redistribute some of their wages?? Thought not..

And what happened to the money saved by being a 'super council' ??

These people exist merely to feather their own nests and make up these exorbitant charges to keep themselves in the manner to which they've become accustomed..
It won't really effect those who are trying to foist it upon us... Considering the grotesque wages they receive (140k min for Henigs immediate underlings) as well as other benefits courtesy of the taxpayer.. And they call themselves socialists! Champions of the working class! So why not follow their own principles and redistribute some of their wages?? Thought not.. And what happened to the money saved by being a 'super council' ?? These people exist merely to feather their own nests and make up these exorbitant charges to keep themselves in the manner to which they've become accustomed.. tomtopper
  • Score: 11

2:39pm Sat 22 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

Its a **** historical fact that with some (not all) North East Councils, which has been going on with some Councils 'for years', 'tons of recycled bottles, cans, 'collected by the conscientious hardworking, 'Working', Council Tax Council Paying Public, is ****NOT recycled but for pure convenience and a 'quick-fit' is tipped into a hole in the ground by 'certain council 'employees'.. ....................
Double 'economically with truth so called 'Recycling manipulative environmental Standards' here. 'Greenies and local Council Taxpayers, 'make a Note for future reference'..........
..The so called 'In-Word now' in Britain is ***transparency, ****accountability, and ****sustainability, all 'fine sounding 'mega- politically correct words' so lets have some on them applied on this so called ***recycling subject.
Its a **** historical fact that with some (not all) North East Councils, which has been going on with some Councils 'for years', 'tons of recycled bottles, cans, 'collected by the conscientious hardworking, 'Working', Council Tax Council Paying Public, is ****NOT recycled but for pure convenience and a 'quick-fit' is tipped into a hole in the ground by 'certain council 'employees'.. .................... Double 'economically with truth so called 'Recycling manipulative environmental Standards' here. 'Greenies and local Council Taxpayers, 'make a Note for future reference'.......... ..The so called 'In-Word now' in Britain is ***transparency, ****accountability, and ****sustainability, all 'fine sounding 'mega- politically correct words' so lets have some on them applied on this so called ***recycling subject. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 4

7:00pm Sun 23 Mar 14

bishopman says...

Typical comments on here from some mindless idiots who haven't got a clue about how all Councils are struggling to balance their books whilst maintaining mandatory services..
Typical comments on here from some mindless idiots who haven't got a clue about how all Councils are struggling to balance their books whilst maintaining mandatory services.. bishopman
  • Score: -20

8:12pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Longbowman666 says...

bishopman wrote:
Typical comments on here from some mindless idiots who haven't got a clue about how all Councils are struggling to balance their books whilst maintaining mandatory services..
And, in the case of DCC, giving themselves Ipads, new mobile phones, high executive pay, raising the council tax to just under the bar for a vote...yes, 'mindless' indeed...
[quote][p][bold]bishopman[/bold] wrote: Typical comments on here from some mindless idiots who haven't got a clue about how all Councils are struggling to balance their books whilst maintaining mandatory services..[/p][/quote]And, in the case of DCC, giving themselves Ipads, new mobile phones, high executive pay, raising the council tax to just under the bar for a vote...yes, 'mindless' indeed... Longbowman666
  • Score: 16

8:23am Mon 24 Mar 14

MartinMo says...

bishopman wrote:
Typical comments on here from some mindless idiots who haven't got a clue about how all Councils are struggling to balance their books whilst maintaining mandatory services..
They would not find it has to balance their books of they lowered their massive annual salaries and expense claims.
[quote][p][bold]bishopman[/bold] wrote: Typical comments on here from some mindless idiots who haven't got a clue about how all Councils are struggling to balance their books whilst maintaining mandatory services..[/p][/quote]They would not find it has to balance their books of they lowered their massive annual salaries and expense claims. MartinMo
  • Score: 17

11:07am Mon 24 Mar 14

DURHAM CITY says...

bishopman wrote:
Typical comments on here from some mindless idiots who haven't got a clue about how all Councils are struggling to balance their books whilst maintaining mandatory services..
get a grip
[quote][p][bold]bishopman[/bold] wrote: Typical comments on here from some mindless idiots who haven't got a clue about how all Councils are struggling to balance their books whilst maintaining mandatory services..[/p][/quote]get a grip DURHAM CITY
  • Score: 8

1:55pm Mon 24 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

Martinmo............
Well last time I saw ANY Council Road sweeper in my street was in July 1969, in fact after the *Recycling Bins have been picked up by Council Workers, they often drop and leave cans, bottles and papers strewn around the street and I have to CLEAN UP AFTER THE COUNCIL PUNTERS. Quite Frankly if two thirds of Council employees were made redundant tomorrow, 95 per cent of the British Public would 'not batter an eyelid' or miss or see ANY difference in so called Council Services. Hundreds of MILLIONS of British Council taxpayers money would then be saved.
Martinmo............ Well last time I saw ANY Council Road sweeper in my street was in July 1969, in fact after the *Recycling Bins have been picked up by Council Workers, they often drop and leave cans, bottles and papers strewn around the street and I have to CLEAN UP AFTER THE COUNCIL PUNTERS. Quite Frankly if two thirds of Council employees were made redundant tomorrow, 95 per cent of the British Public would 'not batter an eyelid' or miss or see ANY difference in so called Council Services. Hundreds of MILLIONS of British Council taxpayers money would then be saved. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 1

3:57pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Boris14 says...

cushybutterfield wrote:
Martinmo............

Well last time I saw ANY Council Road sweeper in my street was in July 1969, in fact after the *Recycling Bins have been picked up by Council Workers, they often drop and leave cans, bottles and papers strewn around the street and I have to CLEAN UP AFTER THE COUNCIL PUNTERS. Quite Frankly if two thirds of Council employees were made redundant tomorrow, 95 per cent of the British Public would 'not batter an eyelid' or miss or see ANY difference in so called Council Services. Hundreds of MILLIONS of British Council taxpayers money would then be saved.
Yes millions would be saved and I bet that the local economy would do even better. Remember these are people who work to provide for their families they pay their way unlike the workshy who get everything handed to them. In all workplaces there are good and bad employees some work harder than others. Constantly slating all council employees will certainly help moral, Blame those in charge For all the failings and ridiculous policies and procedures.
[quote][p][bold]cushybutterfield[/bold] wrote: Martinmo............ Well last time I saw ANY Council Road sweeper in my street was in July 1969, in fact after the *Recycling Bins have been picked up by Council Workers, they often drop and leave cans, bottles and papers strewn around the street and I have to CLEAN UP AFTER THE COUNCIL PUNTERS. Quite Frankly if two thirds of Council employees were made redundant tomorrow, 95 per cent of the British Public would 'not batter an eyelid' or miss or see ANY difference in so called Council Services. Hundreds of MILLIONS of British Council taxpayers money would then be saved.[/p][/quote]Yes millions would be saved and I bet that the local economy would do even better. Remember these are people who work to provide for their families they pay their way unlike the workshy who get everything handed to them. In all workplaces there are good and bad employees some work harder than others. Constantly slating all council employees will certainly help moral, Blame those in charge For all the failings and ridiculous policies and procedures. Boris14
  • Score: 5

4:13pm Mon 24 Mar 14

kristal27 says...

I don't have a garden but if I did I would opt out then do what everyone else should do -bag your garden rubbish and put it in your normal bin -the binmen don't exactly do a CSI on the contents of your bin bags as long as they are in black bags they'll get chucked on the wagon (words of a local bin man not mine ) LOL!
I don't have a garden but if I did I would opt out then do what everyone else should do -bag your garden rubbish and put it in your normal bin -the binmen don't exactly do a CSI on the contents of your bin bags as long as they are in black bags they'll get chucked on the wagon (words of a local bin man not mine ) LOL! kristal27
  • Score: 2

6:10pm Mon 24 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

Some '***fair points re Council employees, on the other hand, Millions of Council local Taxpayers, with some certain Councils, have had to put up with a 'negative council mentality approach' for not just years but decades'. Hence your lack of support, for example when I asked a Binman to take 'one small extra bag of rubbish away', I received the usual' political correct brainwashed negative curt reply, Quote.....'Cannot do that, not my job mate, health and safety' ...............I rest my case. You could multiply prime 'Council' examples and excuses like this over the years and by the thousand, only do the 'bare statutory *council minimum of *work' and that's the way it has been with most north east Councils.....includi
ng numerous once fine 'North East Council Buildings' libraries, swimming pools', etc, etc,, left to 'shocking disgusting wrecks and left to rot',, due to sheer Council ***mismanagement ***lack of any consistent maintenance and some with any professional security oversight.......so 'Joe and Mary Taxpaying Public' has to sweep his own street etc, etc, etc and pay for appalling Council Maintainenace building neglect and cough up more sheer wasted Millions.
Some '***fair points re Council employees, on the other hand, Millions of Council local Taxpayers, with some certain Councils, have had to put up with a 'negative council mentality approach' for not just years but decades'. Hence your lack of support, for example when I asked a Binman to take 'one small extra bag of rubbish away', I received the usual' political correct brainwashed negative curt reply, Quote.....'Cannot do that, not my job mate, health and safety' ...............I rest my case. You could multiply prime 'Council' examples and excuses like this over the years and by the thousand, only do the 'bare statutory *council minimum of *work' and that's the way it has been with most north east Councils.....includi ng numerous once fine 'North East Council Buildings' libraries, swimming pools', etc, etc,, left to 'shocking disgusting wrecks and left to rot',, due to sheer Council ***mismanagement ***lack of any consistent maintenance and some with any professional security oversight.......so 'Joe and Mary Taxpaying Public' has to sweep his own street etc, etc, etc and pay for appalling Council Maintainenace building neglect and cough up more sheer wasted Millions. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 4

8:04pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Boris14 says...

I agree that millions are wasted and some bin men etc do make excuses, but alot of that comes from management and stupid health and safety procedures. I know from experience that alot of public sector staff are frustrated with the way things are run and particularly where the axe falls, when managers are moved around or given different job titles rather than redundancy.
I agree that millions are wasted and some bin men etc do make excuses, but alot of that comes from management and stupid health and safety procedures. I know from experience that alot of public sector staff are frustrated with the way things are run and particularly where the axe falls, when managers are moved around or given different job titles rather than redundancy. Boris14
  • Score: 1

12:23am Tue 25 Mar 14

The Darloexpat says...

As with any council set up they should look at the over staffing within the set up and look to reduce costs there first. Unfortunately there is too much empire building in many councils and that is where the costs blow out.
As with any council set up they should look at the over staffing within the set up and look to reduce costs there first. Unfortunately there is too much empire building in many councils and that is where the costs blow out. The Darloexpat
  • Score: 6

8:20am Tue 25 Mar 14

MartinMo says...

Even the normal waste collection is a joke, try overfilling your grey bin and then leave a perfectly tide bag beside it.

The response is the bin men will leave the bag where it is even though it would cost them seconds to pick it up and chuck into the wagon but then take the time to put on leaflet on your bin warning about over filling and possible charges for doing so.

Local councils only have to look at the failings of their policies if fly tipping occurs in their area.
Even the normal waste collection is a joke, try overfilling your grey bin and then leave a perfectly tide bag beside it. The response is the bin men will leave the bag where it is even though it would cost them seconds to pick it up and chuck into the wagon but then take the time to put on leaflet on your bin warning about over filling and possible charges for doing so. Local councils only have to look at the failings of their policies if fly tipping occurs in their area. MartinMo
  • Score: 8

8:16am Wed 26 Mar 14

MartinMo says...

I put my last comment to the test this morning (Wednesday, Darlington refuse collection), filled my grey bin to the point where the lid could not close. The bin men rocked up, removed the top bag and placed ot on pavement, took bin away for empty'ing and brought it back, picked up previously removed bag and placed it into the bin (at least they did not leave it on pavement), no leaflet this time though. They finally walked off without taking all of my waste, is this what a pay council tax for, to have waste left at my place of residence by the individuals payed to remove it. The council want us to pay for for waste removal but yet fail to have it removed, are they joking or just taking the **** out of those of us who are forced to pay for this inadequate service.
I put my last comment to the test this morning (Wednesday, Darlington refuse collection), filled my grey bin to the point where the lid could not close. The bin men rocked up, removed the top bag and placed ot on pavement, took bin away for empty'ing and brought it back, picked up previously removed bag and placed it into the bin (at least they did not leave it on pavement), no leaflet this time though. They finally walked off without taking all of my waste, is this what a pay council tax for, to have waste left at my place of residence by the individuals payed to remove it. The council want us to pay for for waste removal but yet fail to have it removed, are they joking or just taking the **** out of those of us who are forced to pay for this inadequate service. MartinMo
  • Score: 3

2:08pm Wed 26 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

So we pay 'Council Taxes through the Nose', all Councils are supposed to provide a professional ***consistent Service(s) and BE SEEN to providing such. If NOT Why ? NOT ?.
So we pay 'Council Taxes through the Nose', all Councils are supposed to provide a professional ***consistent Service(s) and BE SEEN to providing such. If NOT Why ? NOT ?. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 1

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