'I ain't takin' down no mural' - Sherburn barber risks fine for 'defacing' war memorial

The controversial mural

The controversial mural

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A DEFIANT barbers’ shop owner is refusing to remove a controversial Banksy-style mural which overlooks a war memorial, despite claims she has defaced the monument to the heroic dead.

The provocative image shows Edward Scissorhands holding his blades menacingly towards the throat of Mr T, with the text: “I pity the fool who don’t go to... Lads and Dads.”

Lads and Dads owner Janice Stevens had the huge piece painted on the large gable end of her new walk-in barbers’ to mark its opening in Sherburn Village, County Durham.

But it overlooks a memorial to men from the village killed in the world wars and Durham County Council urgently wants it removed.

Undeterred, Ms Stevens, a feisty mother-of-eight, said: “If it had been in Manchester, Birmingham of London, it would have been revered.

“People want to get into the 21st century. It’s put Sherburn on the map.”

Ms Stevens, who grew up in Sherburn, said her young male customers loved the painting and she had received only positive comments, including many “likes” on Facebook.

Ms Stevens said her father owned the war memorial site and denied she had “defaced” the monument.

“I have respect for the war heroes. If they want me to cover it up on Remembrance Day, I’ve no problem with that.”

But she refused to have the art painted over, vowing to fight the council all the way and win.

“It’s not everybody’s cup of tea but I don’t see what the problem is.

“I can’t believe they’re making such a big deal of it. They want something better to do.”

If she loses, she could be fined up to £1,000.

County councillor David Hall said the new business was welcome but the mural had caused upset in the village and been divisive and Ms Stevens should adhere to the rules.

After speaking to The Northern Echo, Ms Stevens wrote on the Lads and Dads Facebook page: “Well! Controversy is my middle name: the Sherburn Lads n Dads has made it into the papers... thanks to all the mural haters for the massive free advertising.

“As a huge thank you for your support anybody that mentions the mural will get a pound off their hair cut.”

The council says the mural is an advertisement and, as such, needs permission.

“This has not been sought by the owners of the business concerned and – due to the proximity to the war memorial and the fact that this is a conservation area – we have contacted those associated with the business to request the removal of the mural,” Stuart Timmiss, the council’s head of planning and assets, said.

“We have received a number of complaints about the mural from local councillors and residents who feel the image is inappropriate given that it is next to the village war memorial.”

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5:54am Fri 7 Mar 14

DP20 says...

I think covering it on rememberance day is a sensible compromise, got to remember a lot of the heroes who did die were lads and their dads,
I think covering it on rememberance day is a sensible compromise, got to remember a lot of the heroes who did die were lads and their dads, DP20
  • Score: 30

7:45am Fri 7 Mar 14

the_oxo says...

Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.
Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art. the_oxo
  • Score: -53

8:21am Fri 7 Mar 14

laboursfoe says...

Glad it's not in my village!!

Just a bit of black paint on a badly painted wall, more Chavvy than Banksy!!!
Glad it's not in my village!! Just a bit of black paint on a badly painted wall, more Chavvy than Banksy!!! laboursfoe
  • Score: 61

9:07am Fri 7 Mar 14

johnny_p says...

the_oxo wrote:
Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.
Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....
[quote][p][bold]the_oxo[/bold] wrote: Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation".... johnny_p
  • Score: 85

9:44am Fri 7 Mar 14

the_oxo says...

johnny_p wrote:
the_oxo wrote:
Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.
Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....
How do I fail to realise this. My grandfather fought in the war. But it still doesn't cover the fact that this is art and is no way defacing the mural. It also doesn't represent anything to do with the wars.
[quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the_oxo[/bold] wrote: Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....[/p][/quote]How do I fail to realise this. My grandfather fought in the war. But it still doesn't cover the fact that this is art and is no way defacing the mural. It also doesn't represent anything to do with the wars. the_oxo
  • Score: -39

9:51am Fri 7 Mar 14

rugby69 says...

Since you didn't get permission from the council.... I assume you haven't consulted the individuals you portray, copy-right for the images will cost you more than £1000....
Not to mention my 7 year old son who said "it spoils his prayers for all the soldiers who died..."
Since you didn't get permission from the council.... I assume you haven't consulted the individuals you portray, copy-right for the images will cost you more than £1000.... Not to mention my 7 year old son who said "it spoils his prayers for all the soldiers who died..." rugby69
  • Score: 57

9:55am Fri 7 Mar 14

yarm dave says...

typical answer. this is pure advertising. take it down and show some respect.
sure answer will be. wat it got to do with nobody.
typical answer. this is pure advertising. take it down and show some respect. sure answer will be. wat it got to do with nobody. yarm dave
  • Score: 38

10:20am Fri 7 Mar 14

laboursfoe says...

the_oxo wrote:
johnny_p wrote:
the_oxo wrote:
Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.
Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....
How do I fail to realise this. My grandfather fought in the war. But it still doesn't cover the fact that this is art and is no way defacing the mural. It also doesn't represent anything to do with the wars.
Art?? Really??

Some people buy proper and smart signs or banners. This one makes the building and business appear cheap and tacky. Although it doesn't represent anything to do with the war it is a pretty horrific backdrop to a well thought out and respectfully memorial.

It is out of place
[quote][p][bold]the_oxo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the_oxo[/bold] wrote: Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....[/p][/quote]How do I fail to realise this. My grandfather fought in the war. But it still doesn't cover the fact that this is art and is no way defacing the mural. It also doesn't represent anything to do with the wars.[/p][/quote]Art?? Really?? Some people buy proper and smart signs or banners. This one makes the building and business appear cheap and tacky. Although it doesn't represent anything to do with the war it is a pretty horrific backdrop to a well thought out and respectfully memorial. It is out of place laboursfoe
  • Score: 51

10:20am Fri 7 Mar 14

laboursfoe says...

the_oxo wrote:
johnny_p wrote:
the_oxo wrote:
Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.
Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....
How do I fail to realise this. My grandfather fought in the war. But it still doesn't cover the fact that this is art and is no way defacing the mural. It also doesn't represent anything to do with the wars.
Art?? Really??

Some people buy proper and smart signs or banners. This one makes the building and business appear cheap and tacky. Although it doesn't represent anything to do with the war it is a pretty horrific backdrop to a well thought out and respectfully memorial.

It is out of place
[quote][p][bold]the_oxo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the_oxo[/bold] wrote: Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....[/p][/quote]How do I fail to realise this. My grandfather fought in the war. But it still doesn't cover the fact that this is art and is no way defacing the mural. It also doesn't represent anything to do with the wars.[/p][/quote]Art?? Really?? Some people buy proper and smart signs or banners. This one makes the building and business appear cheap and tacky. Although it doesn't represent anything to do with the war it is a pretty horrific backdrop to a well thought out and respectfully memorial. It is out of place laboursfoe
  • Score: 33

10:48am Fri 7 Mar 14

greenfinger says...

Most of those dead people the war memorial represents would be horrified at that sight/state of Britain today let alone that art. If i was the council id install something behind the war memorial to hide the artwork, job done, we can all be childish if needed.
Most of those dead people the war memorial represents would be horrified at that sight/state of Britain today let alone that art. If i was the council id install something behind the war memorial to hide the artwork, job done, we can all be childish if needed. greenfinger
  • Score: 24

11:28am Fri 7 Mar 14

MickDurham says...

Really though, how hard would it be for someone to paint over this with a can of white emulsion? Maybe do it one evening as to not disturb anyone...
Really though, how hard would it be for someone to paint over this with a can of white emulsion? Maybe do it one evening as to not disturb anyone... MickDurham
  • Score: 34

11:33am Fri 7 Mar 14

George1965 says...

"I ain't takin' down no mural"
Double negative therefore she is going to take it down.
Seriously, it's Sherburn, hardly the culture capital of the North East is it ?
Just a bit of harmless advertising, let her get on with it. With 8 kids, she's going to need all the trade she can get to feed all those mouths. Better than being a dole scrounged .
"I ain't takin' down no mural" Double negative therefore she is going to take it down. Seriously, it's Sherburn, hardly the culture capital of the North East is it ? Just a bit of harmless advertising, let her get on with it. With 8 kids, she's going to need all the trade she can get to feed all those mouths. Better than being a dole scrounged . George1965
  • Score: -12

12:33pm Fri 7 Mar 14

OldBiddyFrom Barney says...

'Put Sherburn on the map' by being thoughtless and unkind ? Oh lets start a controversy get some publicity for my business we could go viral.Grow up you silly selfish woman.
'Put Sherburn on the map' by being thoughtless and unkind ? Oh lets start a controversy get some publicity for my business we could go viral.Grow up you silly selfish woman. OldBiddyFrom Barney
  • Score: 47

12:40pm Fri 7 Mar 14

DarloXman says...

Don't think I would want to visit her hairdressers with that attitude.
Don't think I would want to visit her hairdressers with that attitude. DarloXman
  • Score: 38

3:10pm Fri 7 Mar 14

rugby69 says...

oh well thats it painted over.... Maybe you could enter the wall for a Turner Prize since you're so interested in art.... the mural that never was... or the brick mural?
oh well thats it painted over.... Maybe you could enter the wall for a Turner Prize since you're so interested in art.... the mural that never was... or the brick mural? rugby69
  • Score: 7

6:39pm Fri 7 Mar 14

greenfinger says...

Where are the far right when you need them?
Where are the far right when you need them? greenfinger
  • Score: 2

7:14pm Fri 7 Mar 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

Voice Of Reality (VOR) I have been educated believe it or not, but I really don't understand this headline, can you explain ?, Thanks.
Voice Of Reality (VOR) I have been educated believe it or not, but I really don't understand this headline, can you explain ?, Thanks. NO EINSTEIN
  • Score: 1

7:46pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Voice-of-reality says...

The headline does not make sense because the woman who said it is clearly uneducated - easily referenced by her complete lack of understanding of public sentiment. Her 'native speak' uses 'no' where 'my' or 'any' mural would be better. By 'taking down' she actual means 'painting over' as one cannot take down a paiting put on a brick wall without demolishing a wall. Let's just she that she may be several strands short of a full head of hair.
Cheap publicity stunt that, with luck, will result in people deciding to get their hair cut elsewhere. The woman is adamant that she has the right to paint whatever she wants. However, as it is clearly an advertsiment for her firm she requires planning permission which will, I am absolutely sure, be refused. Having, therefore, put up a sign without permission she should be fined for contravening planning permission (as well as good taste).
The headline does not make sense because the woman who said it is clearly uneducated - easily referenced by her complete lack of understanding of public sentiment. Her 'native speak' uses 'no' where 'my' or 'any' mural would be better. By 'taking down' she actual means 'painting over' as one cannot take down a paiting put on a brick wall without demolishing a wall. Let's just she that she may be several strands short of a full head of hair. Cheap publicity stunt that, with luck, will result in people deciding to get their hair cut elsewhere. The woman is adamant that she has the right to paint whatever she wants. However, as it is clearly an advertsiment for her firm she requires planning permission which will, I am absolutely sure, be refused. Having, therefore, put up a sign without permission she should be fined for contravening planning permission (as well as good taste). Voice-of-reality
  • Score: 25

7:49pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Voice-of-reality says...

The wording is quite clever 'pity those who didntt go' arguably being a reference to the 'cowards' who refufsed to sign up for the war. Whilst 'lads and dads' could be reminiscent of the 'pals' slogans of WWI - though I suspect that I am reading too much into the literacy of the sign
The wording is quite clever 'pity those who didntt go' arguably being a reference to the 'cowards' who refufsed to sign up for the war. Whilst 'lads and dads' could be reminiscent of the 'pals' slogans of WWI - though I suspect that I am reading too much into the literacy of the sign Voice-of-reality
  • Score: 4

8:05pm Fri 7 Mar 14

rugby69 says...

Voice-of-reality wrote:
The headline does not make sense because the woman who said it is clearly uneducated - easily referenced by her complete lack of understanding of public sentiment. Her 'native speak' uses 'no' where 'my' or 'any' mural would be better. By 'taking down' she actual means 'painting over' as one cannot take down a paiting put on a brick wall without demolishing a wall. Let's just she that she may be several strands short of a full head of hair.
Cheap publicity stunt that, with luck, will result in people deciding to get their hair cut elsewhere. The woman is adamant that she has the right to paint whatever she wants. However, as it is clearly an advertsiment for her firm she requires planning permission which will, I am absolutely sure, be refused. Having, therefore, put up a sign without permission she should be fined for contravening planning permission (as well as good taste).
You really should have proof read your submission...

TWO SPELLING MISTAKES and " Let's just she that she may..."
"native speak" maybe "colloquial"

LOL
[quote][p][bold]Voice-of-reality[/bold] wrote: The headline does not make sense because the woman who said it is clearly uneducated - easily referenced by her complete lack of understanding of public sentiment. Her 'native speak' uses 'no' where 'my' or 'any' mural would be better. By 'taking down' she actual means 'painting over' as one cannot take down a paiting put on a brick wall without demolishing a wall. Let's just she that she may be several strands short of a full head of hair. Cheap publicity stunt that, with luck, will result in people deciding to get their hair cut elsewhere. The woman is adamant that she has the right to paint whatever she wants. However, as it is clearly an advertsiment for her firm she requires planning permission which will, I am absolutely sure, be refused. Having, therefore, put up a sign without permission she should be fined for contravening planning permission (as well as good taste).[/p][/quote]You really should have proof read your submission... TWO SPELLING MISTAKES and " Let's just she that she may..." "native speak" maybe "colloquial" LOL rugby69
  • Score: -12

8:06pm Fri 7 Mar 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

Voice-of-reality wrote:
The wording is quite clever 'pity those who didntt go' arguably being a reference to the 'cowards' who refufsed to sign up for the war. Whilst 'lads and dads' could be reminiscent of the 'pals' slogans of WWI - though I suspect that I am reading too much into the literacy of the sign
VOR, Thanks my friend I understand now, the wife has more O levels than a 100 spirit levels, but even she could not get it.

When the h--l are you going for Mayor, or Crime Commissioner, soon I hope.

We need people like you who see how it is,,,,,

(don't get too big headed)
[quote][p][bold]Voice-of-reality[/bold] wrote: The wording is quite clever 'pity those who didntt go' arguably being a reference to the 'cowards' who refufsed to sign up for the war. Whilst 'lads and dads' could be reminiscent of the 'pals' slogans of WWI - though I suspect that I am reading too much into the literacy of the sign[/p][/quote]VOR, Thanks my friend I understand now, the wife has more O levels than a 100 spirit levels, but even she could not get it. When the h--l are you going for Mayor, or Crime Commissioner, soon I hope. We need people like you who see how it is,,,,, (don't get too big headed) NO EINSTEIN
  • Score: 2

8:17pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Voice-of-reality says...

rugby69:I stand by 'native speak' - as for proofreading posts, if I had the time I would. It was a typographical error for which I apologise. However, my post did add something to the general discussion - and, if we are going to talk of stylistic errors might I query the following:
1. Your over use of capitals
2. The unneccessary use of ...
3. The use of double rather than single inverted commas - the latter is far preffered.
4. Gramatucally, one could also argue that your final line also needed a comma.

Now, if you wish to add something constructive to the discussion please feel free to do so. If not, please stop wasting the time of those who do.
rugby69:I stand by 'native speak' - as for proofreading posts, if I had the time I would. It was a typographical error for which I apologise. However, my post did add something to the general discussion - and, if we are going to talk of stylistic errors might I query the following: 1. Your over use of capitals 2. The unneccessary use of ... 3. The use of double rather than single inverted commas - the latter is far preffered. 4. Gramatucally, one could also argue that your final line also needed a comma. Now, if you wish to add something constructive to the discussion please feel free to do so. If not, please stop wasting the time of those who do. Voice-of-reality
  • Score: 5

8:33pm Fri 7 Mar 14

rugby69 says...

Voice-of-reality wrote:
rugby69:I stand by 'native speak' - as for proofreading posts, if I had the time I would. It was a typographical error for which I apologise. However, my post did add something to the general discussion - and, if we are going to talk of stylistic errors might I query the following:
1. Your over use of capitals
2. The unneccessary use of ...
3. The use of double rather than single inverted commas - the latter is far preffered.
4. Gramatucally, one could also argue that your final line also needed a comma.

Now, if you wish to add something constructive to the discussion please feel free to do so. If not, please stop wasting the time of those who do.
Thank you, but really more... I would have PREFERRED that you correct your GRAMMATICAL errors, they are quit UNNECESSARY.

I did add posts at 9:51am and 3:10pm.
[quote][p][bold]Voice-of-reality[/bold] wrote: rugby69:I stand by 'native speak' - as for proofreading posts, if I had the time I would. It was a typographical error for which I apologise. However, my post did add something to the general discussion - and, if we are going to talk of stylistic errors might I query the following: 1. Your over use of capitals 2. The unneccessary use of ... 3. The use of double rather than single inverted commas - the latter is far preffered. 4. Gramatucally, one could also argue that your final line also needed a comma. Now, if you wish to add something constructive to the discussion please feel free to do so. If not, please stop wasting the time of those who do.[/p][/quote]Thank you, but really more... I would have PREFERRED that you correct your GRAMMATICAL errors, they are quit UNNECESSARY. I did add posts at 9:51am and 3:10pm. rugby69
  • Score: -6

8:46pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Andie68 says...

tomtopper wrote:
Typical arrogant chav.. "It's the 21st century" say's it all really..

Bet her tax returns show an extremely low income, and the resulting wave of child tax credits and other benefits... No respect at all.. Hopefully most of her customers will see that and talk with their feet..

If I owned that business I would paint that over white and paint a field of poppies on there with 'Lads and Dads.. Sacrificing themselves for you since 1914' underneath...
Brilliant!
[quote][p][bold]tomtopper[/bold] wrote: Typical arrogant chav.. "It's the 21st century" say's it all really.. Bet her tax returns show an extremely low income, and the resulting wave of child tax credits and other benefits... No respect at all.. Hopefully most of her customers will see that and talk with their feet.. If I owned that business I would paint that over white and paint a field of poppies on there with 'Lads and Dads.. Sacrificing themselves for you since 1914' underneath...[/p][/quote]Brilliant! Andie68
  • Score: 7

10:14pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

OldBiddyFrom Barney wrote:
'Put Sherburn on the map' by being thoughtless and unkind ? Oh lets start a controversy get some publicity for my business we could go viral.Grow up you silly selfish woman.
I have tried searching Sherburn on Google Earth, but it keeps coming up Sh!thole, is this correct?
[quote][p][bold]OldBiddyFrom Barney[/bold] wrote: 'Put Sherburn on the map' by being thoughtless and unkind ? Oh lets start a controversy get some publicity for my business we could go viral.Grow up you silly selfish woman.[/p][/quote]I have tried searching Sherburn on Google Earth, but it keeps coming up Sh!thole, is this correct? Jackaranda
  • Score: 11

12:27pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Longbowman666 says...

I think Sherburn can well do without this tactless 'artwork' - if you want to advertise your business then stick within the same rules as everyone else, including those ones of common decency!
I think Sherburn can well do without this tactless 'artwork' - if you want to advertise your business then stick within the same rules as everyone else, including those ones of common decency! Longbowman666
  • Score: 12

2:25pm Sat 8 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

A disgusting, shameful, shocking, selfish, affront to Britain and the British People and the British Commonwealth. Give her a bucket and scrubber and make her scrub it off..
A disgusting, shameful, shocking, selfish, affront to Britain and the British People and the British Commonwealth. Give her a bucket and scrubber and make her scrub it off.. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 12

2:28pm Sat 8 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

What a shameful advert for the North East of England. No wonder some people call some North Eastern people, 'maladjusted -divvies'. A s disgrace to the decent hardworking, working class people of Britain.
What a shameful advert for the North East of England. No wonder some people call some North Eastern people, 'maladjusted -divvies'. A s disgrace to the decent hardworking, working class people of Britain. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 11

4:42pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Daveywavey64 says...

George1965 wrote:
"I ain't takin' down no mural"
Double negative therefore she is going to take it down.
Seriously, it's Sherburn, hardly the culture capital of the North East is it ?
Just a bit of harmless advertising, let her get on with it. With 8 kids, she's going to need all the trade she can get to feed all those mouths. Better than being a dole scrounged .
someone who is finally sporting her. she is a close family friend of mine and the northern echo have exaggerated on what she has said they have twisted her words as if she dint care about the war memorial. there is loads of spray paint around everywhere and the council are concerned about this. there are swear words written around for children to see and start saying. concentrate more on that then a bit of art work. untill all of you go out and get to know her you will see that she means no harm by that. But untill then KEEP YOUR HATE COMETS TO YOUR SELF!!!!
[quote][p][bold]George1965[/bold] wrote: "I ain't takin' down no mural" Double negative therefore she is going to take it down. Seriously, it's Sherburn, hardly the culture capital of the North East is it ? Just a bit of harmless advertising, let her get on with it. With 8 kids, she's going to need all the trade she can get to feed all those mouths. Better than being a dole scrounged .[/p][/quote]someone who is finally sporting her. she is a close family friend of mine and the northern echo have exaggerated on what she has said they have twisted her words as if she dint care about the war memorial. there is loads of spray paint around everywhere and the council are concerned about this. there are swear words written around for children to see and start saying. concentrate more on that then a bit of art work. untill all of you go out and get to know her you will see that she means no harm by that. But untill then KEEP YOUR HATE COMETS TO YOUR SELF!!!! Daveywavey64
  • Score: -23

4:50pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Daveywavey64 says...

Jackaranda wrote:
OldBiddyFrom Barney wrote:
'Put Sherburn on the map' by being thoughtless and unkind ? Oh lets start a controversy get some publicity for my business we could go viral.Grow up you silly selfish woman.
I have tried searching Sherburn on Google Earth, but it keeps coming up Sh!thole, is this correct?
YOU STUPID MORON I AM FROM THERE AND THAT IS AN OFFENCE TO ME, MY FAMILY AND MY GOOD FRIEND JANICE WHO OWNS THE SHOP.
[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldBiddyFrom Barney[/bold] wrote: 'Put Sherburn on the map' by being thoughtless and unkind ? Oh lets start a controversy get some publicity for my business we could go viral.Grow up you silly selfish woman.[/p][/quote]I have tried searching Sherburn on Google Earth, but it keeps coming up Sh!thole, is this correct?[/p][/quote]YOU STUPID MORON I AM FROM THERE AND THAT IS AN OFFENCE TO ME, MY FAMILY AND MY GOOD FRIEND JANICE WHO OWNS THE SHOP. Daveywavey64
  • Score: -18

6:04pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Thisismyyear2014 says...

Went through sherburn this morning it's ALL READY DOWN ha that lasted long
Went through sherburn this morning it's ALL READY DOWN ha that lasted long Thisismyyear2014
  • Score: 7

6:27pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Daveywavey64 says...

Thisismyyear2014 wrote:
Went through sherburn this morning it's ALL READY DOWN ha that lasted long
yes that is caus the artist went and painted it without them knowing.
[quote][p][bold]Thisismyyear2014[/bold] wrote: Went through sherburn this morning it's ALL READY DOWN ha that lasted long[/p][/quote]yes that is caus the artist went and painted it without them knowing. Daveywavey64
  • Score: 0

7:47pm Sat 8 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

Years ago you had to get proper 'professional references' if you had ANY chance of getting a 'Council House AND you had to strictly abide by a 'Council charter, NOT NOW, the Council House systems in general are a pathetic disgrace, pitted against decent law abiding people.. Many 'decent, law-abiding people' are totally ignored. Nowadays 'most Councils' can (and do)' house' the worst 'Anti-Social Drug and/or Drink fuelled criminal maladjusted 'Divvesi' next door to you and you can do little about. The few people that have managed to get' Divvie's' like this evicted, normally takes on AN AVERAGE OF TWO YEARS. By then the majority of 'decent working class neighbours' have had either a 'nervous breakdow'n or THEY themselves have 'upped sticks' and escaped (those that can) from the 'Neighbour Criminal Anti-Social Disorder .....pure 'Hell. This is the kind of Country we are living in now and the 'Liberal Party' recently announced that they want to ensure that all Criminals released from jail get a 'Decent Council House', now that's ****Clegg and the **Liberal Party' priority for you,,......as much use as a 'chocolate fireguard'. Eh......all for the 'criminal workshy idle free benefit driven wasters' but have the cheek to ignore the wishes of the decent ***working taxpaying****, 'working class people of Britain'..
Years ago you had to get proper 'professional references' if you had ANY chance of getting a 'Council House AND you had to strictly abide by a 'Council charter, NOT NOW, the Council House systems in general are a pathetic disgrace, pitted against decent law abiding people.. Many 'decent, law-abiding people' are totally ignored. Nowadays 'most Councils' can (and do)' house' the worst 'Anti-Social Drug and/or Drink fuelled criminal maladjusted 'Divvesi' next door to you and you can do little about. The few people that have managed to get' Divvie's' like this evicted, normally takes on AN AVERAGE OF TWO YEARS. By then the majority of 'decent working class neighbours' have had either a 'nervous breakdow'n or THEY themselves have 'upped sticks' and escaped (those that can) from the 'Neighbour Criminal Anti-Social Disorder .....pure 'Hell. This is the kind of Country we are living in now and the 'Liberal Party' recently announced that they want to ensure that all Criminals released from jail get a 'Decent Council House', now that's ****Clegg and the **Liberal Party' priority for you,,......as much use as a 'chocolate fireguard'. Eh......all for the 'criminal workshy idle free benefit driven wasters' but have the cheek to ignore the wishes of the decent ***working taxpaying****, 'working class people of Britain'.. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 3

7:54pm Sat 8 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

George1965 We do not want 'illegal graffiti type rubbish' like this, this is criminal damage to 'Council House property' and should be removed forthwith. A disgrace to decent, law abiding working class people in the North East.
George1965 We do not want 'illegal graffiti type rubbish' like this, this is criminal damage to 'Council House property' and should be removed forthwith. A disgrace to decent, law abiding working class people in the North East. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 4

8:10pm Sat 8 Mar 14

OldBiddyFrom Barney says...

I don't know 'Janice' but I wish her well, I think she has been very silly and thoughtless but then again so have I more than once and I probably will be again because nobodies perfect.

Everybody has the right to give their opinion but lets not grind the woman into the ground she has had the guts to try and make a go of running her own business and she has eight kids to worry about.

The murals gone now forgive and forget and move on.
I don't know 'Janice' but I wish her well, I think she has been very silly and thoughtless but then again so have I more than once and I probably will be again because nobodies perfect. Everybody has the right to give their opinion but lets not grind the woman into the ground she has had the guts to try and make a go of running her own business and she has eight kids to worry about. The murals gone now forgive and forget and move on. OldBiddyFrom Barney
  • Score: -1

9:05pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Thisismyyear2014 says...

Daveywavey64 wrote:
Thisismyyear2014 wrote:
Went through sherburn this morning it's ALL READY DOWN ha that lasted long
yes that is caus the artist went and painted it without them knowing.
I wonder if she's getting her money back though
[quote][p][bold]Daveywavey64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thisismyyear2014[/bold] wrote: Went through sherburn this morning it's ALL READY DOWN ha that lasted long[/p][/quote]yes that is caus the artist went and painted it without them knowing.[/p][/quote]I wonder if she's getting her money back though Thisismyyear2014
  • Score: 2

3:50am Sun 9 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

Daveywavey64 wrote:
Jackaranda wrote:
OldBiddyFrom Barney wrote:
'Put Sherburn on the map' by being thoughtless and unkind ? Oh lets start a controversy get some publicity for my business we could go viral.Grow up you silly selfish woman.
I have tried searching Sherburn on Google Earth, but it keeps coming up Sh!thole, is this correct?
YOU STUPID MORON I AM FROM THERE AND THAT IS AN OFFENCE TO ME, MY FAMILY AND MY GOOD FRIEND JANICE WHO OWNS THE SHOP.
It must be then!! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Daveywavey64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldBiddyFrom Barney[/bold] wrote: 'Put Sherburn on the map' by being thoughtless and unkind ? Oh lets start a controversy get some publicity for my business we could go viral.Grow up you silly selfish woman.[/p][/quote]I have tried searching Sherburn on Google Earth, but it keeps coming up Sh!thole, is this correct?[/p][/quote]YOU STUPID MORON I AM FROM THERE AND THAT IS AN OFFENCE TO ME, MY FAMILY AND MY GOOD FRIEND JANICE WHO OWNS THE SHOP.[/p][/quote]It must be then!! ;-) Jackaranda
  • Score: 3

11:15am Sun 9 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

How old ?. Have some people there (not all of course) in Sherbern had a recent I.Q. (intelligence test), there is something sadly lacking in this ****Pit -dinosaur' free state housing/dole/welfare benefit backwater*** when people paint 'Council House's with shocking disgusting, rubbish, a 'shocking utter disgrace' and affront, to the men and women in our 'armed forces' who have died and fought for decent law-abiding 'working-class people' in Britain and the British Commonwealth.......a
nd a ' further shocking disgrace' to the North East of England. I hope the Council are fully investigating this matter and also place it on 'Housing Records' and what is the cost of the damage ?, etc., to Council property ?...........and guess what who pays for its complete removal ?,..... Its a fair bet it will be the poor 'Mug' WORKING local council taxpayer.
How old ?. Have some people there (not all of course) in Sherbern had a recent I.Q. (intelligence test), there is something sadly lacking in this ****Pit -dinosaur' free state housing/dole/welfare benefit backwater*** when people paint 'Council House's with shocking disgusting, rubbish, a 'shocking utter disgrace' and affront, to the men and women in our 'armed forces' who have died and fought for decent law-abiding 'working-class people' in Britain and the British Commonwealth.......a nd a ' further shocking disgrace' to the North East of England. I hope the Council are fully investigating this matter and also place it on 'Housing Records' and what is the cost of the damage ?, etc., to Council property ?...........and guess what who pays for its complete removal ?,..... Its a fair bet it will be the poor 'Mug' WORKING local council taxpayer. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 2

11:50am Sun 9 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

This Grafittie looks like a 'sink estate house' in Beruite or on the 'Falls Road'. in Northern Ireland. A shocking pathetic ugly disgrace.
This Grafittie looks like a 'sink estate house' in Beruite or on the 'Falls Road'. in Northern Ireland. A shocking pathetic ugly disgrace. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 3

1:36pm Sun 9 Mar 14

CLEVELANDPC says...

This does look cheap and tacky but then so do the ASDA and TESCO signs.Art is subjective, so can be controversial, however, this is clearly an advertisement. I think Sherburn Village deserves a grander war memorial but that's an entirely separate issue.
This does look cheap and tacky but then so do the ASDA and TESCO signs.Art is subjective, so can be controversial, however, this is clearly an advertisement. I think Sherburn Village deserves a grander war memorial but that's an entirely separate issue. CLEVELANDPC
  • Score: 2

7:10pm Sun 9 Mar 14

lfp says...

I would like to know who made the original complaint.
I would like to know who made the original complaint. lfp
  • Score: -4

1:07pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Pyroriffic says...

Voice-of-reality wrote:
The wording is quite clever 'pity those who didntt go' arguably being a reference to the 'cowards' who refufsed to sign up for the war. Whilst 'lads and dads' could be reminiscent of the 'pals' slogans of WWI - though I suspect that I am reading too much into the literacy of the sign
I suspect the quote is not attributable to the woman in the article at all, but rather the newspaper's (obviously failed) attempt to 'humorously' reference B.A. Baracus from the A-Team, just as she has done in the picture itself. ("I pity the fool"... "I ain't that, sucker" being two of his more quotable moments).

That said, it's pretty awful and have I read somewhere else today that it's been painted over?

Hooray for small mercies.
[quote][p][bold]Voice-of-reality[/bold] wrote: The wording is quite clever 'pity those who didntt go' arguably being a reference to the 'cowards' who refufsed to sign up for the war. Whilst 'lads and dads' could be reminiscent of the 'pals' slogans of WWI - though I suspect that I am reading too much into the literacy of the sign[/p][/quote]I suspect the quote is not attributable to the woman in the article at all, but rather the newspaper's (obviously failed) attempt to 'humorously' reference B.A. Baracus from the A-Team, just as she has done in the picture itself. ("I pity the fool"... "I ain't [doing thing not doing] that, sucker" being two of his more quotable moments). That said, it's pretty awful and have I read somewhere else today that it's been painted over? Hooray for small mercies. Pyroriffic
  • Score: 5

1:08pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Pyroriffic says...

Pyroriffic wrote:
Voice-of-reality wrote: The wording is quite clever 'pity those who didntt go' arguably being a reference to the 'cowards' who refufsed to sign up for the war. Whilst 'lads and dads' could be reminiscent of the 'pals' slogans of WWI - though I suspect that I am reading too much into the literacy of the sign
I suspect the quote is not attributable to the woman in the article at all, but rather the newspaper's (obviously failed) attempt to 'humorously' reference B.A. Baracus from the A-Team, just as she has done in the picture itself. ("I pity the fool"... "I ain't that, sucker" being two of his more quotable moments). That said, it's pretty awful and have I read somewhere else today that it's been painted over? Hooray for small mercies.
Note to self: NE quote remove things in square brackets... silly me. Just to clarify the B.A. quotes... "I pity the fool"... "I ain't (insert doing thing BA isn't doing) that, sucker"
[quote][p][bold]Pyroriffic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voice-of-reality[/bold] wrote: The wording is quite clever 'pity those who didntt go' arguably being a reference to the 'cowards' who refufsed to sign up for the war. Whilst 'lads and dads' could be reminiscent of the 'pals' slogans of WWI - though I suspect that I am reading too much into the literacy of the sign[/p][/quote]I suspect the quote is not attributable to the woman in the article at all, but rather the newspaper's (obviously failed) attempt to 'humorously' reference B.A. Baracus from the A-Team, just as she has done in the picture itself. ("I pity the fool"... "I ain't [doing thing not doing] that, sucker" being two of his more quotable moments). That said, it's pretty awful and have I read somewhere else today that it's been painted over? Hooray for small mercies.[/p][/quote]Note to self: NE quote remove things in square brackets... silly me. Just to clarify the B.A. quotes... "I pity the fool"... "I ain't (insert doing thing BA isn't doing) that, sucker" Pyroriffic
  • Score: 1

3:18pm Tue 11 Mar 14

johnuk says...

johnny_p wrote:
the_oxo wrote:
Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.
Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....
People bravely fought and many died so that we would have the freedom that allows us to do things like this. That should be celebrated and not suppressed!
[quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the_oxo[/bold] wrote: Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....[/p][/quote]People bravely fought and many died so that we would have the freedom that allows us to do things like this. That should be celebrated and not suppressed! johnuk
  • Score: -2

3:20pm Tue 11 Mar 14

johnuk says...

johnny_p wrote:
the_oxo wrote:
Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.
Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....
People bravely fought and many died so that we would have the freedom that allows us to do things like this. That principle should be celebrated and not suppressed!
[quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the_oxo[/bold] wrote: Personally I see nothing wrong with the image, and it's location. It's all down to the older generation and what they perceive as acceptable art.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately what you fail to realise is that you owe your life and freedom to this "older generation"....[/p][/quote]People bravely fought and many died so that we would have the freedom that allows us to do things like this. That principle should be celebrated and not suppressed! johnuk
  • Score: -2

11:34pm Tue 11 Mar 14

roofer says...

lfp wrote:
I would like to know who made the original complaint.
dont know but they deserve a medal
[quote][p][bold]lfp[/bold] wrote: I would like to know who made the original complaint.[/p][/quote]dont know but they deserve a medal roofer
  • Score: 3

8:57pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Keys11 says...

A pound off a hair cut???do not go in as the young girl who works there has no idea how to cut hair loads of complaints about her
A pound off a hair cut???do not go in as the young girl who works there has no idea how to cut hair loads of complaints about her Keys11
  • Score: 3

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