Man who kept a memory stick dropped in Darlington police station is prosecuted

Darlington and Stockton Times: A dropped memory stick has cost a man £100 in court A dropped memory stick has cost a man £100 in court

A RECOVERING drug addict who kept a memory stick after finding it on the floor of a police station has admitted theft.

Darlington Magistrates’ Court heard how 34-year-old Paul Gaunt visited the town's police station on November 4 and found the brand new memory stick after it had been accidentally dropped by a previous visitor.

Police identified Gaunt from CCTV images and arrested him at his home in Melland Street, Darlington, six weeks later.

He admitted the theft and police recovered the device, which was unused.

Stephen Andrews, miigating, said Gaunt was already working with the probation service on a drug rehabilitation order and had made good progress.

He described the theft as unsophisticated and opportunistic.

Magistrates ordered a six-month conditional discharge and told Gaunt to pay £100 in court costs and charges.

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5:16pm Tue 4 Mar 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

Im all for hanging them high, but this is a bit of overkill, have the cops really nothing better to do,
if it had been a pound coin would they have gone for the death sentence.
Im all for hanging them high, but this is a bit of overkill, have the cops really nothing better to do, if it had been a pound coin would they have gone for the death sentence. NO EINSTEIN
  • Score: 21

5:49pm Tue 4 Mar 14

NOTODDEN says...

I'm with no Einstein on this. Ok it's theft by finding but a USB stick costing a few quid ? Shoplifters steal far more and get penalty notice of £80. Sorry was it in the public interest to take this to court - I don't think so
I'm with no Einstein on this. Ok it's theft by finding but a USB stick costing a few quid ? Shoplifters steal far more and get penalty notice of £80. Sorry was it in the public interest to take this to court - I don't think so NOTODDEN
  • Score: 28

6:36pm Tue 4 Mar 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

NOTODDEN wrote:
I'm with no Einstein on this. Ok it's theft by finding but a USB stick costing a few quid ? Shoplifters steal far more and get penalty notice of £80. Sorry was it in the public interest to take this to court - I don't think so
Thanks NOTODDEN,
I have a little insight into the law, and i'm reliably informed with police and court costs, this case will have been a minimum cost to the public of over £2000.

On saying this even his fine and costs will be paid out of his dole, as im sure he won't be working, to which we pay for this in our taxes, so its a lose lose situation.
[quote][p][bold]NOTODDEN[/bold] wrote: I'm with no Einstein on this. Ok it's theft by finding but a USB stick costing a few quid ? Shoplifters steal far more and get penalty notice of £80. Sorry was it in the public interest to take this to court - I don't think so[/p][/quote]Thanks NOTODDEN, I have a little insight into the law, and i'm reliably informed with police and court costs, this case will have been a minimum cost to the public of over £2000. On saying this even his fine and costs will be paid out of his dole, as im sure he won't be working, to which we pay for this in our taxes, so its a lose lose situation. NO EINSTEIN
  • Score: 14

6:49pm Tue 4 Mar 14

youdontknow1974 says...

Would you all be saying the same if it happened to you?
Would you all be saying the same if it happened to you? youdontknow1974
  • Score: -11

7:01pm Tue 4 Mar 14

NOTODDEN says...

youdontknow1974 wrote:
Would you all be saying the same if it happened to you?
And your point is .......... ?
[quote][p][bold]youdontknow1974[/bold] wrote: Would you all be saying the same if it happened to you?[/p][/quote]And your point is .......... ? NOTODDEN
  • Score: 9

7:12pm Tue 4 Mar 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

youdontknow1974 wrote:
Would you all be saying the same if it happened to you?
Yes if we had half a brain, and cared about where our tax payers money is spent.
[quote][p][bold]youdontknow1974[/bold] wrote: Would you all be saying the same if it happened to you?[/p][/quote]Yes if we had half a brain, and cared about where our tax payers money is spent. NO EINSTEIN
  • Score: 5

7:42pm Tue 4 Mar 14

DaisyBear says...

Last time I found a wallet, the police did not want to have anything to do with it (probably the £60 in it was not enough to split amongst all of them) and told me to ring the owner, who was very grateful and was honest enough to acknowledge that was how much that was in it.

Presumably the memory stick belonged to an officer.
Last time I found a wallet, the police did not want to have anything to do with it (probably the £60 in it was not enough to split amongst all of them) and told me to ring the owner, who was very grateful and was honest enough to acknowledge that was how much that was in it. Presumably the memory stick belonged to an officer. DaisyBear
  • Score: 15

7:57pm Tue 4 Mar 14

darloboss says...

daisybear nail head got it spot on
daisybear nail head got it spot on darloboss
  • Score: 3

8:27pm Tue 4 Mar 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

DaisyBear wrote:
Last time I found a wallet, the police did not want to have anything to do with it (probably the £60 in it was not enough to split amongst all of them) and told me to ring the owner, who was very grateful and was honest enough to acknowledge that was how much that was in it.

Presumably the memory stick belonged to an officer.
DaisyBear my old love,
What you need to know is that the lost property officers are civilians, and think the police are a "POP GROUP."

Yes there are a lot of bent coppers out there, just ask Sean Price.
[quote][p][bold]DaisyBear[/bold] wrote: Last time I found a wallet, the police did not want to have anything to do with it (probably the £60 in it was not enough to split amongst all of them) and told me to ring the owner, who was very grateful and was honest enough to acknowledge that was how much that was in it. Presumably the memory stick belonged to an officer.[/p][/quote]DaisyBear my old love, What you need to know is that the lost property officers are civilians, and think the police are a "POP GROUP." Yes there are a lot of bent coppers out there, just ask Sean Price. NO EINSTEIN
  • Score: 5

8:29pm Tue 4 Mar 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

darloboss wrote:
daisybear nail head got it spot on
darloboss, you know me, but you're only 50 % right, well maybe a little bit more.
[quote][p][bold]darloboss[/bold] wrote: daisybear nail head got it spot on[/p][/quote]darloboss, you know me, but you're only 50 % right, well maybe a little bit more. NO EINSTEIN
  • Score: 2

10:23pm Tue 4 Mar 14

diabolical says...

Absolutely ridiculous what on earth are the Police and CPS playing at ? There is no consistency with this shambles of a criminal justice system ! Paedophiles escape jail, men beat up women and escape jail, a fella picks up a memory stick, probably thinking its a cheap cigarette lighter, possibly still doesn't know what it is and he ends up in court with a £100 penalty. It just so happens they had the resources available to fully investigate this serious crime and follow all reasonable lines of enquiry to bring this villain before the magistrates. What next ? Armed response officers tazer Catholic Nun who picks up pound coin from gutter and blatantly conceals it in her pocket. Live images streamed to CCTV control room as she is covertly tracked by surveillance drone hastily discarding the loot in a charity box. What on earth were they wasting resources on lost and found property ?
Next time you spot a childs glove outside the school gates, don't dream of picking it up you might get Darlington CID kicking your front door in.
Absolutely ridiculous what on earth are the Police and CPS playing at ? There is no consistency with this shambles of a criminal justice system ! Paedophiles escape jail, men beat up women and escape jail, a fella picks up a memory stick, probably thinking its a cheap cigarette lighter, possibly still doesn't know what it is and he ends up in court with a £100 penalty. It just so happens they had the resources available to fully investigate this serious crime and follow all reasonable lines of enquiry to bring this villain before the magistrates. What next ? Armed response officers tazer Catholic Nun who picks up pound coin from gutter and blatantly conceals it in her pocket. Live images streamed to CCTV control room as she is covertly tracked by surveillance drone hastily discarding the loot in a charity box. What on earth were they wasting resources on lost and found property ? Next time you spot a childs glove outside the school gates, don't dream of picking it up you might get Darlington CID kicking your front door in. diabolical
  • Score: 28

7:41am Wed 5 Mar 14

verdilith says...

a few years ago I found a gold bracelet in the street. When I handed it in to the police, they seemed utterly shocked that I hadn't just pocketed it. There never seems to be any consistency with these cases, does there?
a few years ago I found a gold bracelet in the street. When I handed it in to the police, they seemed utterly shocked that I hadn't just pocketed it. There never seems to be any consistency with these cases, does there? verdilith
  • Score: 10

3:02pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Homshaw1 says...

There are no charges when a police officer endangers life driving 140mph when there is no need to do so but someone picks up something worth very little money and he is branded a criminal because of it. If I saw a memory stick lying in the street I wouldn't even pick it up

"Do as I say not as I do" springs to mind

People seem to get in a position of power and use it primarily to look after themselves.
There are no charges when a police officer endangers life driving 140mph when there is no need to do so but someone picks up something worth very little money and he is branded a criminal because of it. If I saw a memory stick lying in the street I wouldn't even pick it up "Do as I say not as I do" springs to mind People seem to get in a position of power and use it primarily to look after themselves. Homshaw1
  • Score: 6

3:58pm Wed 5 Mar 14

greenfinger says...

Whoever lost to should be punished for being so careless.
Whoever lost to should be punished for being so careless. greenfinger
  • Score: 0

5:11pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Homshaw1 says...

greenfinger wrote:
Whoever lost to should be punished for being so careless.
To be fair anyone can drop something. It's just the inconsistency and double standards particularly when we are talking about the police force
[quote][p][bold]greenfinger[/bold] wrote: Whoever lost to should be punished for being so careless.[/p][/quote]To be fair anyone can drop something. It's just the inconsistency and double standards particularly when we are talking about the police force Homshaw1
  • Score: 3

2:28pm Thu 6 Mar 14

echo-man says...

Had this article been the other way round, and reporting "POLICE LET THIEF OFF AFTER CATCHING HIM RED HANDED" I'm fairly sure you would all have something to say about that too. At the end of the day, in my eyes value is irrelevant. This person has stolen something which did not belong to him and deserves to be punished for it.

For those mentioning inconsistency, I agree with you. But that is because not every crime is the same. Not every crime is committed in the same place, by the same person, at the same time, with the same witnesses and the same victim, and because of this some crimes will have more lines of enquiry than others which means that some people get caught and some people don't. Some offenders have previous convictions and some don't which means they can be dealt with differently.

In this case, he is clearly a prolific criminal with a list of previous offences as long as my arm.
Had this article been the other way round, and reporting "POLICE LET THIEF OFF AFTER CATCHING HIM RED HANDED" I'm fairly sure you would all have something to say about that too. At the end of the day, in my eyes value is irrelevant. This person has stolen something which did not belong to him and deserves to be punished for it. For those mentioning inconsistency, I agree with you. But that is because not every crime is the same. Not every crime is committed in the same place, by the same person, at the same time, with the same witnesses and the same victim, and because of this some crimes will have more lines of enquiry than others which means that some people get caught and some people don't. Some offenders have previous convictions and some don't which means they can be dealt with differently. In this case, he is clearly a prolific criminal with a list of previous offences as long as my arm. echo-man
  • Score: 0

2:50pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Homshaw1 says...

echo-man wrote:
Had this article been the other way round, and reporting "POLICE LET THIEF OFF AFTER CATCHING HIM RED HANDED" I'm fairly sure you would all have something to say about that too. At the end of the day, in my eyes value is irrelevant. This person has stolen something which did not belong to him and deserves to be punished for it.

For those mentioning inconsistency, I agree with you. But that is because not every crime is the same. Not every crime is committed in the same place, by the same person, at the same time, with the same witnesses and the same victim, and because of this some crimes will have more lines of enquiry than others which means that some people get caught and some people don't. Some offenders have previous convictions and some don't which means they can be dealt with differently.

In this case, he is clearly a prolific criminal with a list of previous offences as long as my arm.
I feel the amount is relevant. Would you charge someone for picking up a button?. If the memory stick, a ball, a pair of shoes was found while walking the dog down by the river would you really expected someone to go to the police station with it.

Two crimes may not be exactly the same but here we have a low value item picked up that did not threaten public safety. Compare that with a person driving at 140 mph and poising a real danger to the public. There is a clear difference in the two situations which simply saying no two situations are the same in no way explains.

Did what was achieved by bringing the charges justify the cost? If someone comes into the station and says someone stole my lighter I left on the table in the pub are you going to press charges? I don't think so.
[quote][p][bold]echo-man[/bold] wrote: Had this article been the other way round, and reporting "POLICE LET THIEF OFF AFTER CATCHING HIM RED HANDED" I'm fairly sure you would all have something to say about that too. At the end of the day, in my eyes value is irrelevant. This person has stolen something which did not belong to him and deserves to be punished for it. For those mentioning inconsistency, I agree with you. But that is because not every crime is the same. Not every crime is committed in the same place, by the same person, at the same time, with the same witnesses and the same victim, and because of this some crimes will have more lines of enquiry than others which means that some people get caught and some people don't. Some offenders have previous convictions and some don't which means they can be dealt with differently. In this case, he is clearly a prolific criminal with a list of previous offences as long as my arm.[/p][/quote]I feel the amount is relevant. Would you charge someone for picking up a button?. If the memory stick, a ball, a pair of shoes was found while walking the dog down by the river would you really expected someone to go to the police station with it. Two crimes may not be exactly the same but here we have a low value item picked up that did not threaten public safety. Compare that with a person driving at 140 mph and poising a real danger to the public. There is a clear difference in the two situations which simply saying no two situations are the same in no way explains. Did what was achieved by bringing the charges justify the cost? If someone comes into the station and says someone stole my lighter I left on the table in the pub are you going to press charges? I don't think so. Homshaw1
  • Score: 2

3:41pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Homshaw1 says...

Who decides on whether a prosecution is brought? Can police decide not to prosecute without involving the CPS as in the case of the speeding policeman or would they have been asked? In the case where prosecutions are brought will this have been approved by the CPS as in the case of the memory stick?
Who decides on whether a prosecution is brought? Can police decide not to prosecute without involving the CPS as in the case of the speeding policeman or would they have been asked? In the case where prosecutions are brought will this have been approved by the CPS as in the case of the memory stick? Homshaw1
  • Score: 2

4:34pm Thu 6 Mar 14

greenfinger says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
Who decides on whether a prosecution is brought? Can police decide not to prosecute without involving the CPS as in the case of the speeding policeman or would they have been asked? In the case where prosecutions are brought will this have been approved by the CPS as in the case of the memory stick?
yes, they can give out a caution.
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: Who decides on whether a prosecution is brought? Can police decide not to prosecute without involving the CPS as in the case of the speeding policeman or would they have been asked? In the case where prosecutions are brought will this have been approved by the CPS as in the case of the memory stick?[/p][/quote]yes, they can give out a caution. greenfinger
  • Score: 1

10:09pm Thu 6 Mar 14

bishop1 says...

finding & pocketing a memory stick is really not worth taking someone to court over .
and to anyone that says it is , have you never found a 5,10 or 20 quid note & kept it ??
the memory stick would only be a few quid anyway so finding & pocketing 20 quid must be the crime of the century & worth 15 years in jail .
finding & pocketing a memory stick is really not worth taking someone to court over . and to anyone that says it is , have you never found a 5,10 or 20 quid note & kept it ?? the memory stick would only be a few quid anyway so finding & pocketing 20 quid must be the crime of the century & worth 15 years in jail . bishop1
  • Score: 1

10:01am Fri 7 Mar 14

Darkroom Devil says...

Many simply miss the point. It has to be prosecuted or all thiefs will simply "find things on the floor". If you knowingly take or pick up something that belongs to another then its theft.

If you are a theif then you pay the price.

As for costing £2000 those figures are only for statistical purposes. I don't imagine individual cases are actually billed like that.
Many simply miss the point. It has to be prosecuted or all thiefs will simply "find things on the floor". If you knowingly take or pick up something that belongs to another then its theft. If you are a theif then you pay the price. As for costing £2000 those figures are only for statistical purposes. I don't imagine individual cases are actually billed like that. Darkroom Devil
  • Score: 0

10:03am Fri 7 Mar 14

Darkroom Devil says...

For clarity I mean take with the intention of keeping.
For clarity I mean take with the intention of keeping. Darkroom Devil
  • Score: 0

5:54pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Homshaw1 says...

Darkroom Devil wrote:
Many simply miss the point. It has to be prosecuted or all thiefs will simply "find things on the floor". If you knowingly take or pick up something that belongs to another then its theft.

If you are a theif then you pay the price.

As for costing £2000 those figures are only for statistical purposes. I don't imagine individual cases are actually billed like that.
We are not missing the point we just don't agree with you. Whether police decide to prosecute seems to depend on criteria known only to themselves. They are a mystery to everyone else.

Why was this guy prosecuted and the 140 mph police office let off? Justify it please because it doesn't make sense to most people.
[quote][p][bold]Darkroom Devil[/bold] wrote: Many simply miss the point. It has to be prosecuted or all thiefs will simply "find things on the floor". If you knowingly take or pick up something that belongs to another then its theft. If you are a theif then you pay the price. As for costing £2000 those figures are only for statistical purposes. I don't imagine individual cases are actually billed like that.[/p][/quote]We are not missing the point we just don't agree with you. Whether police decide to prosecute seems to depend on criteria known only to themselves. They are a mystery to everyone else. Why was this guy prosecuted and the 140 mph police office let off? Justify it please because it doesn't make sense to most people. Homshaw1
  • Score: 3

7:44pm Fri 7 Mar 14

think twice says...

Why was this guy prosecuted and the 140 mph police officer let off?

It seems reasonable to conclude that the failure to take any action involving the incident with the police officer deeply offended more law abiding citizens that the "powers that be" realize.
Why was this guy prosecuted and the 140 mph police officer let off? It seems reasonable to conclude that the failure to take any action involving the incident with the police officer deeply offended more law abiding citizens that the "powers that be" realize. think twice
  • Score: 4

7:58pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Darkroom Devil says...

Since when were theft and speeding ever in the same boat?
There's always a loser in theft. There's rarely a loser where speeding is concerned statistically.
Since when were theft and speeding ever in the same boat? There's always a loser in theft. There's rarely a loser where speeding is concerned statistically. Darkroom Devil
  • Score: -3

1:30am Sat 8 Mar 14

echo-man says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
Darkroom Devil wrote:
Many simply miss the point. It has to be prosecuted or all thiefs will simply "find things on the floor". If you knowingly take or pick up something that belongs to another then its theft.

If you are a theif then you pay the price.

As for costing £2000 those figures are only for statistical purposes. I don't imagine individual cases are actually billed like that.
We are not missing the point we just don't agree with you. Whether police decide to prosecute seems to depend on criteria known only to themselves. They are a mystery to everyone else.

Why was this guy prosecuted and the 140 mph police office let off? Justify it please because it doesn't make sense to most people.
9 times out of 10 it's actually the CPS who decide whether to prosecute or not, and not the police as many think. I feel sorry for the police who simply do their job to the best of their ability and get criticised for every move they make by people who have very little experience in the field.

I also don't see how the case of the speeding police officer is relevant to this case? One is for theft, and the other is for speeding? Both very different things. On one hand you are criticising the police for prosecuting a prolific criminal for stealing something from an actual victim. On the other you are criticising the police for not prosecuting an otherwise law abiding citizen for making one mistake. Make your mind up? I have been pulled over and given a verbal warning about my speed before, and I am thankful that it was just a warning. I guess that this is going to be brought up in every case where people disagree with the actions taken by police now though? I don't know why they bother. I certainly wouldn't want to do a job where everyone else thinks they could do it better than me from the comfort of their arm chairs. People are just making it so difficult for them these days by dwelling on the mistakes of a very small minority. Can you imagine what it would be like without the police? I think it's time people started supporting them and making life difficult for criminals instead of the other way round!
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darkroom Devil[/bold] wrote: Many simply miss the point. It has to be prosecuted or all thiefs will simply "find things on the floor". If you knowingly take or pick up something that belongs to another then its theft. If you are a theif then you pay the price. As for costing £2000 those figures are only for statistical purposes. I don't imagine individual cases are actually billed like that.[/p][/quote]We are not missing the point we just don't agree with you. Whether police decide to prosecute seems to depend on criteria known only to themselves. They are a mystery to everyone else. Why was this guy prosecuted and the 140 mph police office let off? Justify it please because it doesn't make sense to most people.[/p][/quote]9 times out of 10 it's actually the CPS who decide whether to prosecute or not, and not the police as many think. I feel sorry for the police who simply do their job to the best of their ability and get criticised for every move they make by people who have very little experience in the field. I also don't see how the case of the speeding police officer is relevant to this case? One is for theft, and the other is for speeding? Both very different things. On one hand you are criticising the police for prosecuting a prolific criminal for stealing something from an actual victim. On the other you are criticising the police for not prosecuting an otherwise law abiding citizen for making one mistake. Make your mind up? I have been pulled over and given a verbal warning about my speed before, and I am thankful that it was just a warning. I guess that this is going to be brought up in every case where people disagree with the actions taken by police now though? I don't know why they bother. I certainly wouldn't want to do a job where everyone else thinks they could do it better than me from the comfort of their arm chairs. People are just making it so difficult for them these days by dwelling on the mistakes of a very small minority. Can you imagine what it would be like without the police? I think it's time people started supporting them and making life difficult for criminals instead of the other way round! echo-man
  • Score: -4

9:48am Sun 9 Mar 14

Homshaw1 says...

Darkroom Devil wrote:
Since when were theft and speeding ever in the same boat?
There's always a loser in theft. There's rarely a loser where speeding is concerned statistically.
The worst that can happen with a stolen pen drive is that someone pays a few pounds to replace it - annoying but not life changing. Driving at 140 mph can cause death and serious injury. There are plenty of grieving relatives that will tell you there are losers when people speed. It wasn't as if this guy was just over the limit. Even the local MP and the Police Commission don't agree with your point of view.

As far not prosecuting people with previously clean records that's fine as long as it is applied equally to everyone without favour. Somehow I don't think it will be the case.
[quote][p][bold]Darkroom Devil[/bold] wrote: Since when were theft and speeding ever in the same boat? There's always a loser in theft. There's rarely a loser where speeding is concerned statistically.[/p][/quote]The worst that can happen with a stolen pen drive is that someone pays a few pounds to replace it - annoying but not life changing. Driving at 140 mph can cause death and serious injury. There are plenty of grieving relatives that will tell you there are losers when people speed. It wasn't as if this guy was just over the limit. Even the local MP and the Police Commission don't agree with your point of view. As far not prosecuting people with previously clean records that's fine as long as it is applied equally to everyone without favour. Somehow I don't think it will be the case. Homshaw1
  • Score: 1

10:01am Sun 9 Mar 14

echo-man says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
Darkroom Devil wrote:
Since when were theft and speeding ever in the same boat?
There's always a loser in theft. There's rarely a loser where speeding is concerned statistically.
The worst that can happen with a stolen pen drive is that someone pays a few pounds to replace it - annoying but not life changing. Driving at 140 mph can cause death and serious injury. There are plenty of grieving relatives that will tell you there are losers when people speed. It wasn't as if this guy was just over the limit. Even the local MP and the Police Commission don't agree with your point of view.

As far not prosecuting people with previously clean records that's fine as long as it is applied equally to everyone without favour. Somehow I don't think it will be the case.
What if the USB stick contained things which could not be replaced, or contained sensitive information? It would not be so minor then would it? And I would argue that being fair to those of us without previous convictions is applied equally.
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darkroom Devil[/bold] wrote: Since when were theft and speeding ever in the same boat? There's always a loser in theft. There's rarely a loser where speeding is concerned statistically.[/p][/quote]The worst that can happen with a stolen pen drive is that someone pays a few pounds to replace it - annoying but not life changing. Driving at 140 mph can cause death and serious injury. There are plenty of grieving relatives that will tell you there are losers when people speed. It wasn't as if this guy was just over the limit. Even the local MP and the Police Commission don't agree with your point of view. As far not prosecuting people with previously clean records that's fine as long as it is applied equally to everyone without favour. Somehow I don't think it will be the case.[/p][/quote]What if the USB stick contained things which could not be replaced, or contained sensitive information? It would not be so minor then would it? And I would argue that being fair to those of us without previous convictions is applied equally. echo-man
  • Score: -1

2:20pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Homshaw1 says...

If the USB stick contained such sensitive information proper security should have been in place and it should not have ended up on a police station floor. They were quick enough to point out the requirements of the Data Protection Act when I asked for information.

You read stories about the 140 mph policeman and the Cleveland senior police woman's wide rampage in Northallerton, neither of whom were charged, and contrast that with this minor incident and you would conclude there is one law for the general public and a separate one for the police.
If the USB stick contained such sensitive information proper security should have been in place and it should not have ended up on a police station floor. They were quick enough to point out the requirements of the Data Protection Act when I asked for information. You read stories about the 140 mph policeman and the Cleveland senior police woman's wide rampage in Northallerton, neither of whom were charged, and contrast that with this minor incident and you would conclude there is one law for the general public and a separate one for the police. Homshaw1
  • Score: 3

3:16pm Mon 10 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

The problem is that when a basic subject like, 'Theft by finding', you get some of the paranoid 'Anti-Police chip on your shoulder brigade', always ready to undermine or discredit Police. Its a fair bet that some of the ';Anti--Police whingers' have been prosecuted in the past 'for speeding and/or associated or even criminal offences'. Hence some of (not all of course) your quick 'spit out your dummy', self pitying Anti-Police rethoric. Its THEFT (Stealing) by finding and 'that's that'.
The problem is that when a basic subject like, 'Theft by finding', you get some of the paranoid 'Anti-Police chip on your shoulder brigade', always ready to undermine or discredit Police. Its a fair bet that some of the ';Anti--Police whingers' have been prosecuted in the past 'for speeding and/or associated or even criminal offences'. Hence some of (not all of course) your quick 'spit out your dummy', self pitying Anti-Police rethoric. Its THEFT (Stealing) by finding and 'that's that'. cushybutterfield
  • Score: -2

4:17pm Mon 10 Mar 14

MartinMo says...

Theft is theft.............al
though this guy should have just left it on the floor and frauduantly claimed thousands of pounds from the benefit system, that seems to be a lesser crime these days. New justice scales:

Stealing = smacked wrist if you can claim poverty forced you to do it.
Fraud = see above
Find = done for grand theft if you attempt to keep the item
Theft is theft.............al though this guy should have just left it on the floor and frauduantly claimed thousands of pounds from the benefit system, that seems to be a lesser crime these days. New justice scales: Stealing = smacked wrist if you can claim poverty forced you to do it. Fraud = see above Find = done for grand theft if you attempt to keep the item MartinMo
  • Score: 1

5:46am Tue 11 Mar 14

DP20 says...

Darkroom Devil wrote:
Since when were theft and speeding ever in the same boat?
There's always a loser in theft. There's rarely a loser where speeding is concerned statistically.
Unless someone loses their life because of the actions, a normal car driver speeding at 100mph on a motorway it
is an automatic ban, what makes a police officer different if he has no blues and two,s on, one rule for them one for you.
[quote][p][bold]Darkroom Devil[/bold] wrote: Since when were theft and speeding ever in the same boat? There's always a loser in theft. There's rarely a loser where speeding is concerned statistically.[/p][/quote]Unless someone loses their life because of the actions, a normal car driver speeding at 100mph on a motorway it is an automatic ban, what makes a police officer different if he has no blues and two,s on, one rule for them one for you. DP20
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12:17pm Tue 11 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

COMMON SENSE has died in Britain. In a separate Crime thread a poor woman had her ' £3OO Childs Buggy Stolen' at a 'local Medical Centre' (Surgery ?). The thief was captured and 'fully identified by name' which had been recorded on 'CCTV'. Some political correct punter(s) refused to 'name the thief' to the Police investigating the matter because of so called 'Politically Correct Data'. I call this 'total nonsense and a pathetic perverse obstructive manipulation of the 'Data Protection System',, surely these people are by their omissions, **obstructing the course of justice' and should be 'summoned and/or arrested' for that offence alone.. It further begs the common sense question ALSO ...Why ? have expensive 'CCTV' Systems there in the First Place ?. ......What a disgusting 'Political correct 'inept -nonsense'.. so a victim of crime....'Suffers yet more'.
COMMON SENSE has died in Britain. In a separate Crime thread a poor woman had her ' £3OO Childs Buggy Stolen' at a 'local Medical Centre' (Surgery ?). The thief was captured and 'fully identified by name' which had been recorded on 'CCTV'. Some political correct punter(s) refused to 'name the thief' to the Police investigating the matter because of so called 'Politically Correct Data'. I call this 'total nonsense and a pathetic perverse obstructive manipulation of the 'Data Protection System',, surely these people are by their omissions, **obstructing the course of justice' and should be 'summoned and/or arrested' for that offence alone.. It further begs the common sense question ALSO ...Why ? have expensive 'CCTV' Systems there in the First Place ?. ......What a disgusting 'Political correct 'inept -nonsense'.. so a victim of crime....'Suffers yet more'. cushybutterfield
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