Benefit claimants 'fit for work' - then dead, says MP

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THOUSANDS of sick benefit claimants are dying within six weeks of being wrongly assessed as “fit to work”, a North-East MP claimed yesterday.

Ian Mearns, the Gateshead MP, blamed the Government for the misdiagnosis at least 10,600 sick and disabled people in just ten months, who then quickly died.

It is the fiercest criticism yet of the controversial tests being carried out on incapacity benefits by French firm Atos, for the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP).

During a Commons debate, the Labour MP said: “Four people a day are dying within six weeks of being declared fit for work under the work capability assessments. It is scandalous.

“I'm told there was a story doing the rounds, that when the bones of Richard III were discovered in Leicester, that Atos carried out an assessment and judged him fit for work.

“It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. It's a sad truth faced by 12,000 plus families, who every year have to face their own personal tragedy of this nature.”

Mr Mearns said the figure of 10,600 deaths, after unsuccessful claims for Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), covered the period January to November 2011.

And he added: “This Government has repeatedly refused to release updated 2013 figures for deaths within six weeks of an end of an ESA claim.”

The comments came during a debate in which calls were made for an independent assessment of the impact of the Coalition's controversial welfare changes.

A petition started by comedian Francesca Martinez, who has cerebral palsy, attracted 104,741 signatures, sufficient to trigger a Commons discussion.

It was co-sponsored by Grahame Morris, the Easington MP, who accused David Cameron of breaking his pledge to make cuts “fairly”.

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6:44pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Jonn says...

It appears the Government find it acceptable that 10,000 plus sick people, many who worked all their lives and payed taxes, spend their final days or weeks of life wrongly judged 'fit for work' and in financial hardship.
What a dispicable way to treat people.
It appears the Government find it acceptable that 10,000 plus sick people, many who worked all their lives and payed taxes, spend their final days or weeks of life wrongly judged 'fit for work' and in financial hardship. What a dispicable way to treat people. Jonn
  • Score: 62

7:38pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Jonn says...

Here's another one today: An inquest heard that Mr Wood, a vulnerable Asperger's sufferer was found dead weighing just 5st, 4 months after he was judged 'fit to work' by ATOS and had benefits stopped. His Doctor said that he had not been contacted by either Atos or the DWP about Mr Wood’s medical history, and revealed that if he had been asked for his professional opinion, he would have said his patient was unfit for work.
This Government and ATOS should be charged with corporate manslaughter.
Here's another one today: An inquest heard that Mr Wood, a vulnerable Asperger's sufferer was found dead weighing just 5st, 4 months after he was judged 'fit to work' by ATOS and had benefits stopped. His Doctor said that he had not been contacted by either Atos or the DWP about Mr Wood’s medical history, and revealed that if he had been asked for his professional opinion, he would have said his patient was unfit for work. This Government and ATOS should be charged with corporate manslaughter. Jonn
  • Score: 63

7:45pm Fri 28 Feb 14

besafeoutthere says...

the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better. besafeoutthere
  • Score: -62

8:08pm Fri 28 Feb 14

punkrocker says...

people who fiddle will simply find another way to fiddle (just like mp's) its the genuine people who this despicable govt are hounding. These figures are a national shame but besafeoutthere knows someone who he thinks gets a free car so maybe these deaths are worth it so his neighbour cannot have a car. Shame on him, Lacey and the rest who gloat at attacks on the poor.
people who fiddle will simply find another way to fiddle (just like mp's) its the genuine people who this despicable govt are hounding. These figures are a national shame but besafeoutthere knows someone who he thinks gets a free car so maybe these deaths are worth it so his neighbour cannot have a car. Shame on him, Lacey and the rest who gloat at attacks on the poor. punkrocker
  • Score: 50

11:09pm Fri 28 Feb 14

PJ Chingford says...

besafeoutthere

That would be;
personaly -personally
there-their
payed-paid
disalbled-disabled
benifits-benefits
theres-there's

Presumably your finishing school was bombed
besafeoutthere That would be; personaly -personally there-their payed-paid disalbled-disabled benifits-benefits theres-there's Presumably your finishing school was bombed PJ Chingford
  • Score: 43

12:55am Sat 1 Mar 14

JackBack says...

besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
IF there is nothing wrong with them and their faking it then report them. But making a callous comment like that about disabled people dying shows your an uneducated moron
[quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]IF there is nothing wrong with them and their faking it then report them. But making a callous comment like that about disabled people dying shows your an uneducated moron JackBack
  • Score: 66

7:17am Sat 1 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
You will get thumbs down for that comment, but I agree with you entirely.
[quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]You will get thumbs down for that comment, but I agree with you entirely. Jackaranda
  • Score: -54

7:32am Sat 1 Mar 14

budgiegirl says...

Workers working till they 67 .....then dead......
Workers working till they 67 .....then dead...... budgiegirl
  • Score: 11

8:12am Sat 1 Mar 14

Jonn says...

besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................
......
I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?
[quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................ ...... I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong? Jonn
  • Score: 28

8:58am Sat 1 Mar 14

Darloresident says...

Jonn wrote:
besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................

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I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?
Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making.
If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................ ...... I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?[/p][/quote]Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making. If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented.. Darloresident
  • Score: -10

10:59am Sat 1 Mar 14

Jonn says...

Darloresident wrote:
Jonn wrote:
besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................


......
I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?
Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making.
If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..
Mocking people who have died is acceptable but mocking spelling and grammar is not acceptable. Is that what you are saying?
The MP's views hold no sway with me, I already know the truth about ATOS.
A little hint by the way, the commentor is a troll ,so I was simply reciprocating in kind.
[quote][p][bold]Darloresident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................ ...... I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?[/p][/quote]Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making. If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..[/p][/quote]Mocking people who have died is acceptable but mocking spelling and grammar is not acceptable. Is that what you are saying? The MP's views hold no sway with me, I already know the truth about ATOS. A little hint by the way, the commentor is a troll ,so I was simply reciprocating in kind. Jonn
  • Score: 33

3:02pm Sat 1 Mar 14

David Lacey says...

When Labour get elected next year I predict two things. These problems will continue. Jonn etc will go silent. I think I'll vote Labour if it will help to shut him up.
When Labour get elected next year I predict two things. These problems will continue. Jonn etc will go silent. I think I'll vote Labour if it will help to shut him up. David Lacey
  • Score: -8

5:13pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Jonn says...

David Lacey wrote:
When Labour get elected next year I predict two things. These problems will continue. Jonn etc will go silent. I think I'll vote Labour if it will help to shut him up.
Why are you so obsessed with the 'left' and 'Labour'? Why do you label people Labour voters if they criticise Governments policies? Is that all you have got? You know there's no defence against some of the things this Government are doing to sick and disabled people but you're entrenched in a world of defending right wing ideology, no matter what.
[quote][p][bold]David Lacey[/bold] wrote: When Labour get elected next year I predict two things. These problems will continue. Jonn etc will go silent. I think I'll vote Labour if it will help to shut him up.[/p][/quote]Why are you so obsessed with the 'left' and 'Labour'? Why do you label people Labour voters if they criticise Governments policies? Is that all you have got? You know there's no defence against some of the things this Government are doing to sick and disabled people but you're entrenched in a world of defending right wing ideology, no matter what. Jonn
  • Score: 19

5:16pm Sat 1 Mar 14

el-Bow says...

The points being made are fallacious nonsense and not even worthy of critical analysis. If you must regurgitate the lies and myths being spread by this government and the right wing media then expect to be mocked.

I also know many people who are in receipt of various social security payments JSA/ESA and DLA and they all do so legally, because they are *ENTITLED* to them by *LAW*.

If you suspect their claims are fraudulent then report them, but as you are here spreading bile I guess you know that not to be true.

Instead of kicking the people you deem beneath you why not focus your anger at those who are to blame...the government and the financial services industry.
The points being made are fallacious nonsense and not even worthy of critical analysis. If you must regurgitate the lies and myths being spread by this government and the right wing media then expect to be mocked. I also know many people who are in receipt of various social security payments JSA/ESA and DLA and they all do so legally, because they are *ENTITLED* to them by *LAW*. If you suspect their claims are fraudulent then report them, but as you are here spreading bile I guess you know that not to be true. Instead of kicking the people you deem beneath you why not focus your anger at those who are to blame...the government and the financial services industry. el-Bow
  • Score: 30

7:30pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Jonn says...

el-Bow wrote:
The points being made are fallacious nonsense and not even worthy of critical analysis. If you must regurgitate the lies and myths being spread by this government and the right wing media then expect to be mocked.

I also know many people who are in receipt of various social security payments JSA/ESA and DLA and they all do so legally, because they are *ENTITLED* to them by *LAW*.

If you suspect their claims are fraudulent then report them, but as you are here spreading bile I guess you know that not to be true.

Instead of kicking the people you deem beneath you why not focus your anger at those who are to blame...the government and the financial services industry.
They won't get angry with the Government and the financial industry as that is the hand that feeds them, despite the robbery of hundreds of billions. Cowards only pick on those they deem unable to fight back.
[quote][p][bold]el-Bow[/bold] wrote: The points being made are fallacious nonsense and not even worthy of critical analysis. If you must regurgitate the lies and myths being spread by this government and the right wing media then expect to be mocked. I also know many people who are in receipt of various social security payments JSA/ESA and DLA and they all do so legally, because they are *ENTITLED* to them by *LAW*. If you suspect their claims are fraudulent then report them, but as you are here spreading bile I guess you know that not to be true. Instead of kicking the people you deem beneath you why not focus your anger at those who are to blame...the government and the financial services industry.[/p][/quote]They won't get angry with the Government and the financial industry as that is the hand that feeds them, despite the robbery of hundreds of billions. Cowards only pick on those they deem unable to fight back. Jonn
  • Score: 18

8:00pm Sat 1 Mar 14

sineater says...

David When labour is elected next year, I predict that you won't go silent ,you'll carry on spouting the same old right wing sh1t,and mocking poor people won't you .
David When labour is elected next year, I predict that you won't go silent ,you'll carry on spouting the same old right wing sh1t,and mocking poor people won't you . sineater
  • Score: 2

8:22pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

sineater wrote:
Jacaranda , I knew you were an ignorant loud mouthed imbecile,b ut your support of besafeouthere is astounding,,are you a member of this s**m bag government you're certainly sh1t enough !!!
Oh dear!!!
[quote][p][bold]sineater[/bold] wrote: Jacaranda , I knew you were an ignorant loud mouthed imbecile,b ut your support of besafeouthere is astounding,,are you a member of this s**m bag government you're certainly sh1t enough !!![/p][/quote]Oh dear!!! Jackaranda
  • Score: 4

9:18pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

Darloresident wrote:
Jonn wrote:
besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................


......
I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?
Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making.
If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..
It is a shame that he mocks someone else's spelling, which of course you should never do!!

Jonn says...

"Iain Ducan Smith f*cks up yet again!!!
Too late for the woman who comitted suicide, citing the bedroom tax in her suicide note but later found to be exempt from the bedroom tax."

The above spelling mistakes by Jonn were found in a comment he made on another thread.
[quote][p][bold]Darloresident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................ ...... I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?[/p][/quote]Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making. If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..[/p][/quote]It is a shame that he mocks someone else's spelling, which of course you should never do!! Jonn says... "Iain Ducan Smith f*cks up yet again!!! Too late for the woman who comitted suicide, citing the bedroom tax in her suicide note but later found to be exempt from the bedroom tax." The above spelling mistakes by Jonn were found in a comment he made on another thread. Jackaranda
  • Score: -4

7:05am Sun 2 Mar 14

Jonn says...

Jackaranda wrote:
Darloresident wrote:
Jonn wrote:
besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................



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I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?
Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making.
If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..
It is a shame that he mocks someone else's spelling, which of course you should never do!!

Jonn says...

"Iain Ducan Smith f*cks up yet again!!!
Too late for the woman who comitted suicide, citing the bedroom tax in her suicide note but later found to be exempt from the bedroom tax."

The above spelling mistakes by Jonn were found in a comment he made on another thread.
Apologies, it should read Iain Duncan Schmidt.
[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darloresident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................ ...... I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?[/p][/quote]Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making. If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..[/p][/quote]It is a shame that he mocks someone else's spelling, which of course you should never do!! Jonn says... "Iain Ducan Smith f*cks up yet again!!! Too late for the woman who comitted suicide, citing the bedroom tax in her suicide note but later found to be exempt from the bedroom tax." The above spelling mistakes by Jonn were found in a comment he made on another thread.[/p][/quote]Apologies, it should read Iain Duncan Schmidt. Jonn
  • Score: 14

10:07am Sun 2 Mar 14

trugggg says...

As I understand it- the "free cars" are provided by a charity in exchange for part of the disability benefit. Many of the cars have to be specially adapted for people to use them. There are stringent conditions on the use of the cars, such as maximum mileage etc. The person must show a medical need for these cars, i.e., being unable to walk far.
In other words - the cars are paid for out of the persons DLA-
If someone begrudges anyone the use of these cars then they must be very small minded indeed.
As I understand it- the "free cars" are provided by a charity in exchange for part of the disability benefit. Many of the cars have to be specially adapted for people to use them. There are stringent conditions on the use of the cars, such as maximum mileage etc. The person must show a medical need for these cars, i.e., being unable to walk far. In other words - the cars are paid for out of the persons DLA- If someone begrudges anyone the use of these cars then they must be very small minded indeed. trugggg
  • Score: 10

10:10am Sun 2 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

Jonn wrote:
Jackaranda wrote:
Darloresident wrote:
Jonn wrote:
besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................




......
I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?
Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making.
If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..
It is a shame that he mocks someone else's spelling, which of course you should never do!!

Jonn says...

"Iain Ducan Smith f*cks up yet again!!!
Too late for the woman who comitted suicide, citing the bedroom tax in her suicide note but later found to be exempt from the bedroom tax."

The above spelling mistakes by Jonn were found in a comment he made on another thread.
Apologies, it should read Iain Duncan Schmidt.
At least he is COMMITTED!! 2 m's, 2 t's young man.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darloresident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................ ...... I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?[/p][/quote]Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making. If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..[/p][/quote]It is a shame that he mocks someone else's spelling, which of course you should never do!! Jonn says... "Iain Ducan Smith f*cks up yet again!!! Too late for the woman who comitted suicide, citing the bedroom tax in her suicide note but later found to be exempt from the bedroom tax." The above spelling mistakes by Jonn were found in a comment he made on another thread.[/p][/quote]Apologies, it should read Iain Duncan Schmidt.[/p][/quote]At least he is COMMITTED!! 2 m's, 2 t's young man. Jackaranda
  • Score: -2

10:30am Sun 2 Mar 14

Davy Crocket says...

The reason the Government is so hard on genuine people is that they are too soft on benefit fraudsters. How many times have you read about someone fiddling £20000+ in benefits and getting community service and paying back £5 per week? That just encourages more benefit fraud....and guess who pays ...those genuine and honest people in real need.
The reason the Government is so hard on genuine people is that they are too soft on benefit fraudsters. How many times have you read about someone fiddling £20000+ in benefits and getting community service and paying back £5 per week? That just encourages more benefit fraud....and guess who pays ...those genuine and honest people in real need. Davy Crocket
  • Score: 7

11:15am Sun 2 Mar 14

Jonn says...

Jackaranda wrote:
Jonn wrote:
Jackaranda wrote:
Darloresident wrote:
Jonn wrote:
besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................





......
I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?
Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making.
If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..
It is a shame that he mocks someone else's spelling, which of course you should never do!!

Jonn says...

"Iain Ducan Smith f*cks up yet again!!!
Too late for the woman who comitted suicide, citing the bedroom tax in her suicide note but later found to be exempt from the bedroom tax."

The above spelling mistakes by Jonn were found in a comment he made on another thread.
Apologies, it should read Iain Duncan Schmidt.
At least he is COMMITTED!! 2 m's, 2 t's young man.
I wish IDS would be committed, to a psychiatric institution.
[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darloresident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]I no, it's shocking isnt it. all of my neybours are disalbled too, they all have brand new cars, they all go on 3 foren holidays a year, they all have 60" widescreen tvs, there all have the latest iphone and ipad, they all get takeaways evry night, they all smoke 60 fags a day, they are awlays down the pub, they are always in the beting shop................ ...... I get up at 3am evry mourning, walk 150 miles to werk, do a 27 hour shift on minimum wage and get home at 2am. I, like you, can't spell for sh*t, what am I doing wrong?[/p][/quote]Such a shame John that you resort to mocking a persons spelling and grammar rather than the points they are making. If the points being made were pro the MPs views then it would be of no interest to you how the diction and spelling were presented..[/p][/quote]It is a shame that he mocks someone else's spelling, which of course you should never do!! Jonn says... "Iain Ducan Smith f*cks up yet again!!! Too late for the woman who comitted suicide, citing the bedroom tax in her suicide note but later found to be exempt from the bedroom tax." The above spelling mistakes by Jonn were found in a comment he made on another thread.[/p][/quote]Apologies, it should read Iain Duncan Schmidt.[/p][/quote]At least he is COMMITTED!! 2 m's, 2 t's young man.[/p][/quote]I wish IDS would be committed, to a psychiatric institution. Jonn
  • Score: 3

11:24am Sun 2 Mar 14

Jonn says...

Davy Crocket wrote:
The reason the Government is so hard on genuine people is that they are too soft on benefit fraudsters. How many times have you read about someone fiddling £20000+ in benefits and getting community service and paying back £5 per week? That just encourages more benefit fraud....and guess who pays ...those genuine and honest people in real need.
Maybe our MP's, Police, Corporates, Bankers, Royals, Press etc should set a better example concerning fraud. How many times have we seen these people been caught fiddling and get away with it?
The reason the Government is being so hard on genuine people is because they are dismantling the welfare state entirely. You won't be getting a reduction or refund on your taxes though.
[quote][p][bold]Davy Crocket[/bold] wrote: The reason the Government is so hard on genuine people is that they are too soft on benefit fraudsters. How many times have you read about someone fiddling £20000+ in benefits and getting community service and paying back £5 per week? That just encourages more benefit fraud....and guess who pays ...those genuine and honest people in real need.[/p][/quote]Maybe our MP's, Police, Corporates, Bankers, Royals, Press etc should set a better example concerning fraud. How many times have we seen these people been caught fiddling and get away with it? The reason the Government is being so hard on genuine people is because they are dismantling the welfare state entirely. You won't be getting a reduction or refund on your taxes though. Jonn
  • Score: 10

11:33am Sun 2 Mar 14

Jonn says...

trugggg wrote:
As I understand it- the "free cars" are provided by a charity in exchange for part of the disability benefit. Many of the cars have to be specially adapted for people to use them. There are stringent conditions on the use of the cars, such as maximum mileage etc. The person must show a medical need for these cars, i.e., being unable to walk far.
In other words - the cars are paid for out of the persons DLA-
If someone begrudges anyone the use of these cars then they must be very small minded indeed.
Yes, but peddling the myth of 'free cars' gets ill informed peoples backs up to support the welfare cuts.
I much prefer being able bodied and have no car, but that's just me. I much prefer my taxes go to help the disabled than to help corrupt Banks, but that's just me.
[quote][p][bold]trugggg[/bold] wrote: As I understand it- the "free cars" are provided by a charity in exchange for part of the disability benefit. Many of the cars have to be specially adapted for people to use them. There are stringent conditions on the use of the cars, such as maximum mileage etc. The person must show a medical need for these cars, i.e., being unable to walk far. In other words - the cars are paid for out of the persons DLA- If someone begrudges anyone the use of these cars then they must be very small minded indeed.[/p][/quote]Yes, but peddling the myth of 'free cars' gets ill informed peoples backs up to support the welfare cuts. I much prefer being able bodied and have no car, but that's just me. I much prefer my taxes go to help the disabled than to help corrupt Banks, but that's just me. Jonn
  • Score: 9

11:56am Sun 2 Mar 14

laboursfoe says...

Jonn wrote:
trugggg wrote:
As I understand it- the "free cars" are provided by a charity in exchange for part of the disability benefit. Many of the cars have to be specially adapted for people to use them. There are stringent conditions on the use of the cars, such as maximum mileage etc. The person must show a medical need for these cars, i.e., being unable to walk far.
In other words - the cars are paid for out of the persons DLA-
If someone begrudges anyone the use of these cars then they must be very small minded indeed.
Yes, but peddling the myth of 'free cars' gets ill informed peoples backs up to support the welfare cuts.
I much prefer being able bodied and have no car, but that's just me. I much prefer my taxes go to help the disabled than to help corrupt Banks, but that's just me.
I know somebody that had an Audi TT as the mobility car. They did pay an upfront contribution of about £6k but still they had a car like that for 3 years with tax, insurance, tyres and manta inane all covered.

Yes they forfeited £50 a week from their benefits but still a cracking deal!!
You've got to question a system that allowed that type of vehicle to be subsidised to that extent. Thankfully this government started looking at the types of cars available and the emissions and knocked vehicles such as Range Rover Sports,Mercedes ML's and such like from the list.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trugggg[/bold] wrote: As I understand it- the "free cars" are provided by a charity in exchange for part of the disability benefit. Many of the cars have to be specially adapted for people to use them. There are stringent conditions on the use of the cars, such as maximum mileage etc. The person must show a medical need for these cars, i.e., being unable to walk far. In other words - the cars are paid for out of the persons DLA- If someone begrudges anyone the use of these cars then they must be very small minded indeed.[/p][/quote]Yes, but peddling the myth of 'free cars' gets ill informed peoples backs up to support the welfare cuts. I much prefer being able bodied and have no car, but that's just me. I much prefer my taxes go to help the disabled than to help corrupt Banks, but that's just me.[/p][/quote]I know somebody that had an Audi TT as the mobility car. They did pay an upfront contribution of about £6k but still they had a car like that for 3 years with tax, insurance, tyres and manta inane all covered. Yes they forfeited £50 a week from their benefits but still a cracking deal!! You've got to question a system that allowed that type of vehicle to be subsidised to that extent. Thankfully this government started looking at the types of cars available and the emissions and knocked vehicles such as Range Rover Sports,Mercedes ML's and such like from the list. laboursfoe
  • Score: 4

12:16pm Sun 2 Mar 14

johnny_p says...

"Thousands" of people being judged fit for work dying within six weeks?

Really? I'd like to suggest a bit of left-wing journalistic creativity there.
"Thousands" of people being judged fit for work dying within six weeks? Really? I'd like to suggest a bit of left-wing journalistic creativity there. johnny_p
  • Score: 0

2:34pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Cazovey says...

besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
Ah yes, because you've met ALL of the people judged fit to work by ATOS, and you can definitely say that they were all fraudsters with no real disability. That's ridiculous, and you know it is.
[quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]Ah yes, because you've met ALL of the people judged fit to work by ATOS, and you can definitely say that they were all fraudsters with no real disability. That's ridiculous, and you know it is. Cazovey
  • Score: 7

2:39pm Sun 2 Mar 14

loan_star says...

johnny_p wrote:
"Thousands" of people being judged fit for work dying within six weeks?

Really? I'd like to suggest a bit of left-wing journalistic creativity there.
What else would you expect from Merrick? Funny how there is never an article from him about record employment, the fact we are out of recession etc! It doesn't suit his left wing agenda and the Echo should be ashamed to print the majority of his drivel.
[quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: "Thousands" of people being judged fit for work dying within six weeks? Really? I'd like to suggest a bit of left-wing journalistic creativity there.[/p][/quote]What else would you expect from Merrick? Funny how there is never an article from him about record employment, the fact we are out of recession etc! It doesn't suit his left wing agenda and the Echo should be ashamed to print the majority of his drivel. loan_star
  • Score: -1

3:19pm Sun 2 Mar 14

sineater says...

No just the truth Jonny,rec ord employment ,record part time employment ,which means still mclaiming benefits thickwit !!
No just the truth Jonny,rec ord employment ,record part time employment ,which means still mclaiming benefits thickwit !! sineater
  • Score: -4

3:42pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Bill Kruse says...

besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
Why don't you and all the others who 'claim' to know any number of people who are living it east on benefits and how they've got it so wonderful, why don't you join them then?
[quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]Why don't you and all the others who 'claim' to know any number of people who are living it east on benefits and how they've got it so wonderful, why don't you join them then? Bill Kruse
  • Score: 2

3:43pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Bill Kruse says...

besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
If they've got it so easy compared to poor hardworking old you, why don't you join them then? Why aren't you living the life with them?
[quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]If they've got it so easy compared to poor hardworking old you, why don't you join them then? Why aren't you living the life with them? Bill Kruse
  • Score: -1

4:04pm Sun 2 Mar 14

jimnic says...

Jonn wrote:
Here's another one today: An inquest heard that Mr Wood, a vulnerable Asperger's sufferer was found dead weighing just 5st, 4 months after he was judged 'fit to work' by ATOS and had benefits stopped. His Doctor said that he had not been contacted by either Atos or the DWP about Mr Wood’s medical history, and revealed that if he had been asked for his professional opinion, he would have said his patient was unfit for work.
This Government and ATOS should be charged with corporate manslaughter.
http://www.change.or
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[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: Here's another one today: An inquest heard that Mr Wood, a vulnerable Asperger's sufferer was found dead weighing just 5st, 4 months after he was judged 'fit to work' by ATOS and had benefits stopped. His Doctor said that he had not been contacted by either Atos or the DWP about Mr Wood’s medical history, and revealed that if he had been asked for his professional opinion, he would have said his patient was unfit for work. This Government and ATOS should be charged with corporate manslaughter.[/p][/quote]http://www.change.or g/en-GB/petitions/ch arge-atos-with-corpo rate-manslaughter-re -the-starvation-of-m ark-wood-after-he-wa s-declared-fit-for-w ork jimnic
  • Score: 3

4:16pm Sun 2 Mar 14

jimnic says...

loan_star wrote:
johnny_p wrote:
"Thousands" of people being judged fit for work dying within six weeks?

Really? I'd like to suggest a bit of left-wing journalistic creativity there.
What else would you expect from Merrick? Funny how there is never an article from him about record employment, the fact we are out of recession etc! It doesn't suit his left wing agenda and the Echo should be ashamed to print the majority of his drivel.
these figures are those provided by the DWP themselves in response to freedom of information requests and been circulating for a long time before any MP had the guts to pick them up.. Nothing fabricated about them fabrication is the way of Duncan Smith
[quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: "Thousands" of people being judged fit for work dying within six weeks? Really? I'd like to suggest a bit of left-wing journalistic creativity there.[/p][/quote]What else would you expect from Merrick? Funny how there is never an article from him about record employment, the fact we are out of recession etc! It doesn't suit his left wing agenda and the Echo should be ashamed to print the majority of his drivel.[/p][/quote]these figures are those provided by the DWP themselves in response to freedom of information requests and been circulating for a long time before any MP had the guts to pick them up.. Nothing fabricated about them fabrication is the way of Duncan Smith jimnic
  • Score: 3

4:17pm Sun 2 Mar 14

salisbury91 says...

besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
i am one of those that have a new car every three years, get benefits, and stay at home watching tv all day, i would willingly swap you your life for mine, unable to walk far, in constant pain. so before slagging people like myself off please walk a mile in my shoes (because i certainly wish i could)
[quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]i am one of those that have a new car every three years, get benefits, and stay at home watching tv all day, i would willingly swap you your life for mine, unable to walk far, in constant pain. so before slagging people like myself off please walk a mile in my shoes (because i certainly wish i could) salisbury91
  • Score: 11

4:22pm Sun 2 Mar 14

salisbury91 says...

if the government put as much effort into hounded the big companies that avoid paying their taxes as they do the old and affirm they would make lot more sence, the money they would recoup would virtually clear the county's debt within 5 years, but hey -ho we the old and affirm can't fight back UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION
if the government put as much effort into hounded the big companies that avoid paying their taxes as they do the old and affirm they would make lot more sence, the money they would recoup would virtually clear the county's debt within 5 years, but hey -ho we the old and affirm can't fight back UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION salisbury91
  • Score: 4

5:27pm Sun 2 Mar 14

pedro55 says...

From government stats: "A Department for Work and Pensions FOI request yielded a response showing that people having their claim for Employment Support Allowance (ESA) stopped, between October 2010 and November 2011, with a recorded date of death within six weeks of that claim ceasing, who were until recently claiming Incapacity Benefit, totalled 310. Between January and November 2011, those having their ESA claim ended, with a recorded date of death within six weeks of that claim ending totalled 10,600."
https://www.gov.uk/g
overnment/uploads/sy
stem/uploads/attachm
ent_data/file/223050
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This statistical release presents the number of deaths of recipients of incapacity benefits, that is Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) and its predecessors Incapacity Benefit (IB) and Severe Disablement Allowance (SDA). For those who have moved from IB/SDA to ESA and then died and for new ESA claimants who died the figures are split into those who were in the Support Group (SG) and those who
were in the Work Related Activities Group (WRAG). The figures are derived from administrative data held by the Department for Work and Pensions.
From government stats: "A Department for Work and Pensions FOI request yielded a response showing that people having their claim for Employment Support Allowance (ESA) stopped, between October 2010 and November 2011, with a recorded date of death within six weeks of that claim ceasing, who were until recently claiming Incapacity Benefit, totalled 310. Between January and November 2011, those having their ESA claim ended, with a recorded date of death within six weeks of that claim ending totalled 10,600." https://www.gov.uk/g overnment/uploads/sy stem/uploads/attachm ent_data/file/223050 /incap_decd_recips_0 712.pdf This statistical release presents the number of deaths of recipients of incapacity benefits, that is Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) and its predecessors Incapacity Benefit (IB) and Severe Disablement Allowance (SDA). For those who have moved from IB/SDA to ESA and then died and for new ESA claimants who died the figures are split into those who were in the Support Group (SG) and those who were in the Work Related Activities Group (WRAG). The figures are derived from administrative data held by the Department for Work and Pensions. pedro55
  • Score: 1

7:46pm Sun 2 Mar 14

theWorkerScum says...

salisbury91 wrote:
if the government put as much effort into hounded the big companies that avoid paying their taxes as they do the old and affirm they would make lot more sence, the money they would recoup would virtually clear the county's debt within 5 years, but hey -ho we the old and affirm can't fight back UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION
UK debt is well over 1 Trillion pounds and rising. Tax avoidance is calculated to be around 70 billion, a hefty figure. However as you can see it would take more like 15 years to clear the national debt. Tax avoidance is unfortunately one big grey area very much like everything else. As for the party in power under the current global situation, I don't believe it makes much difference.
[quote][p][bold]salisbury91[/bold] wrote: if the government put as much effort into hounded the big companies that avoid paying their taxes as they do the old and affirm they would make lot more sence, the money they would recoup would virtually clear the county's debt within 5 years, but hey -ho we the old and affirm can't fight back UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION[/p][/quote]UK debt is well over 1 Trillion pounds and rising. Tax avoidance is calculated to be around 70 billion, a hefty figure. However as you can see it would take more like 15 years to clear the national debt. Tax avoidance is unfortunately one big grey area very much like everything else. As for the party in power under the current global situation, I don't believe it makes much difference. theWorkerScum
  • Score: 2

7:57pm Sun 2 Mar 14

louisewilson55 says...

besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
Please if you hate it so much come and take my mums car ( that isn't free) take all her problems and pain away and let her have her life back!!! I'm dam sure she would swap it all with you tomorrow..... Then I'd get my mum back!
[quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]Please if you hate it so much come and take my mums car ( that isn't free) take all her problems and pain away and let her have her life back!!! I'm dam sure she would swap it all with you tomorrow..... Then I'd get my mum back! louisewilson55
  • Score: 8

9:10pm Sun 2 Mar 14

spragger says...

Labour MP tries to make something out of this ..
Welcome to the glass half empty party . .
Labour MP tries to make something out of this .. Welcome to the glass half empty party . . spragger
  • Score: -5

7:37am Mon 3 Mar 14

diabolical says...

Who rembers the pale blue three wheeled fibreglass one seater disabled person vehicles ? What would happen to the DLA Motability scheme if they were re-introduced ? An extremely high percentage of new cars supplied by main dealers in the UK are Motability cars. The vehicles are for those persons who by virtue of their medical condition are unable to walk or virtually unable to walk who in exchange for their DLA high rate mobility component benefit allowance may selected a new vehicle to assist them getting around. If anyone believes they know anyone who they believe is not so entitled or abusing the scheme tgen report them to DWP fraud section. Complaining on this page is pointless. Undoubtedly if the only motabilty vehicle available was a three wheeled pale blue fibreglass one then the popularity would plummet. I am surprised their are no seven seater four wheeled drive luxury mobility scooters available, why not, it's simple, because they are not cool and trendy. With regards to Government in power and policies, there is no difference which party are in power at any time. The Social Security spending never goes down, in Darlington alone approx £280 million per year. More than half of that is to those of pension age, to whom the worst service is provided and they are tge members of society who have paid most in to national insurance. The sad fact is that tremendous admin costs in DWP goes on those persons who are not entitled to particular benefits because they are not doing what yhey are supposed to do, for example, actively looking for work. Sadly it costs more to disallow and stop benefit then reconsider the decision,, still not pay it, explain that decision in writing, by phone and in person than it would to give anyone who walks through the jobcentre door £71.70 per week.
Who rembers the pale blue three wheeled fibreglass one seater disabled person vehicles ? What would happen to the DLA Motability scheme if they were re-introduced ? An extremely high percentage of new cars supplied by main dealers in the UK are Motability cars. The vehicles are for those persons who by virtue of their medical condition are unable to walk or virtually unable to walk who in exchange for their DLA high rate mobility component benefit allowance may selected a new vehicle to assist them getting around. If anyone believes they know anyone who they believe is not so entitled or abusing the scheme tgen report them to DWP fraud section. Complaining on this page is pointless. Undoubtedly if the only motabilty vehicle available was a three wheeled pale blue fibreglass one then the popularity would plummet. I am surprised their are no seven seater four wheeled drive luxury mobility scooters available, why not, it's simple, because they are not cool and trendy. With regards to Government in power and policies, there is no difference which party are in power at any time. The Social Security spending never goes down, in Darlington alone approx £280 million per year. More than half of that is to those of pension age, to whom the worst service is provided and they are tge members of society who have paid most in to national insurance. The sad fact is that tremendous admin costs in DWP goes on those persons who are not entitled to particular benefits because they are not doing what yhey are supposed to do, for example, actively looking for work. Sadly it costs more to disallow and stop benefit then reconsider the decision,, still not pay it, explain that decision in writing, by phone and in person than it would to give anyone who walks through the jobcentre door £71.70 per week. diabolical
  • Score: 1

8:17am Mon 3 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

Bill Kruse wrote:
besafeoutthere wrote:
the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.
Why don't you and all the others who 'claim' to know any number of people who are living it east on benefits and how they've got it so wonderful, why don't you join them then?
Because a lot of folk would find it uncomfortable being a parasite!!
[quote][p][bold]Bill Kruse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]besafeoutthere[/bold] wrote: the shock of having work for a living must be killing them. i personaly know loads of people on the sick that have never worked for years driving around in there free cars payed by me and other hard working tax payers taking up genuine disalbled parking places living the life on benifits while i have go out and work very hard to pay the bills, im a labour supporter but i think the tories have got this right. when my next door neighbour pulls up in his brand new free car every three years that i cant afford and theres nothing wrong with them makes my blood boil. the sooner they are forced back out to work the better.[/p][/quote]Why don't you and all the others who 'claim' to know any number of people who are living it east on benefits and how they've got it so wonderful, why don't you join them then?[/p][/quote]Because a lot of folk would find it uncomfortable being a parasite!! Jackaranda
  • Score: 3

1:18pm Mon 3 Mar 14

johnny_p says...

jimnic wrote:
loan_star wrote:
johnny_p wrote:
"Thousands" of people being judged fit for work dying within six weeks?

Really? I'd like to suggest a bit of left-wing journalistic creativity there.
What else would you expect from Merrick? Funny how there is never an article from him about record employment, the fact we are out of recession etc! It doesn't suit his left wing agenda and the Echo should be ashamed to print the majority of his drivel.
these figures are those provided by the DWP themselves in response to freedom of information requests and been circulating for a long time before any MP had the guts to pick them up.. Nothing fabricated about them fabrication is the way of Duncan Smith
So come on then- let's see that link that proves that "thousands" are dying after being judged fit for work.

Thousands is plural, so look forward to seeing what the actual figure really is. Or has the Echo opened itself up for a potential libel case here?
[quote][p][bold]jimnic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: "Thousands" of people being judged fit for work dying within six weeks? Really? I'd like to suggest a bit of left-wing journalistic creativity there.[/p][/quote]What else would you expect from Merrick? Funny how there is never an article from him about record employment, the fact we are out of recession etc! It doesn't suit his left wing agenda and the Echo should be ashamed to print the majority of his drivel.[/p][/quote]these figures are those provided by the DWP themselves in response to freedom of information requests and been circulating for a long time before any MP had the guts to pick them up.. Nothing fabricated about them fabrication is the way of Duncan Smith[/p][/quote]So come on then- let's see that link that proves that "thousands" are dying after being judged fit for work. Thousands is plural, so look forward to seeing what the actual figure really is. Or has the Echo opened itself up for a potential libel case here? johnny_p
  • Score: -1

2:39pm Mon 3 Mar 14

MartinMo says...

Jonn wrote:
trugggg wrote:
As I understand it- the "free cars" are provided by a charity in exchange for part of the disability benefit. Many of the cars have to be specially adapted for people to use them. There are stringent conditions on the use of the cars, such as maximum mileage etc. The person must show a medical need for these cars, i.e., being unable to walk far.
In other words - the cars are paid for out of the persons DLA-
If someone begrudges anyone the use of these cars then they must be very small minded indeed.
Yes, but peddling the myth of 'free cars' gets ill informed peoples backs up to support the welfare cuts.
I much prefer being able bodied and have no car, but that's just me. I much prefer my taxes go to help the disabled than to help corrupt Banks, but that's just me.
They are not free cars, payment is indeed covered DLA, however, if you play the system correctly as loads do (not all) you will be awarded the higher level of DLA which then covers the cost of the free car. Although it would appear as though someone on higher level DLA are getting a free car they are not, it's being paid for by tax payers..............
......car dealers wont give away vehicles for free.

People can strike out at governmental policy until they are blue in the face, we all agree or disagree which ever the case be but it changes nothing.

There are those whom need benefits and those whom don't but fraudlently claim. It costs more to investigate the fraudsters and at the end what happens, nothing really, they walk away with basically a smacked hand.

Governments have no choice but to cut benefits claimed in order to lessen the impact it has on the nations economy, regardless of which party is in force they will all come to this same resolution to the problem.

If you need someone to blame, head hunt all the fraudsters or the idle lay abouts who are fit enough to work but choose not to. Stomp on the cretins of society whom think having kids is an acceptable way of life of bringing in income without doing a days work. Stricter controls on immigration, no more come to the UK for cash and home handouts, no job, no home = no visa.

Generations of british born and breed stopped using the word great when talking about Britian years ago becuase it it them are are forced into poverty by the governing bodies decisions.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trugggg[/bold] wrote: As I understand it- the "free cars" are provided by a charity in exchange for part of the disability benefit. Many of the cars have to be specially adapted for people to use them. There are stringent conditions on the use of the cars, such as maximum mileage etc. The person must show a medical need for these cars, i.e., being unable to walk far. In other words - the cars are paid for out of the persons DLA- If someone begrudges anyone the use of these cars then they must be very small minded indeed.[/p][/quote]Yes, but peddling the myth of 'free cars' gets ill informed peoples backs up to support the welfare cuts. I much prefer being able bodied and have no car, but that's just me. I much prefer my taxes go to help the disabled than to help corrupt Banks, but that's just me.[/p][/quote]They are not free cars, payment is indeed covered DLA, however, if you play the system correctly as loads do (not all) you will be awarded the higher level of DLA which then covers the cost of the free car. Although it would appear as though someone on higher level DLA are getting a free car they are not, it's being paid for by tax payers.............. ......car dealers wont give away vehicles for free. People can strike out at governmental policy until they are blue in the face, we all agree or disagree which ever the case be but it changes nothing. There are those whom need benefits and those whom don't but fraudlently claim. It costs more to investigate the fraudsters and at the end what happens, nothing really, they walk away with basically a smacked hand. Governments have no choice but to cut benefits claimed in order to lessen the impact it has on the nations economy, regardless of which party is in force they will all come to this same resolution to the problem. If you need someone to blame, head hunt all the fraudsters or the idle lay abouts who are fit enough to work but choose not to. Stomp on the cretins of society whom think having kids is an acceptable way of life of bringing in income without doing a days work. Stricter controls on immigration, no more come to the UK for cash and home handouts, no job, no home = no visa. Generations of british born and breed stopped using the word great when talking about Britian years ago becuase it it them are are forced into poverty by the governing bodies decisions. MartinMo
  • Score: 5

3:06pm Mon 3 Mar 14

sineater says...

You have been told before most benefits are paid to pensioners ,and disabled people,are they dragging the country down?,or is it the people who won't pay their tax,and the bankers who with their dodgy dealing wrecked the economy,now give your head a shake ,and start again .
You have been told before most benefits are paid to pensioners ,and disabled people,are they dragging the country down?,or is it the people who won't pay their tax,and the bankers who with their dodgy dealing wrecked the economy,now give your head a shake ,and start again . sineater
  • Score: 0

3:28pm Mon 3 Mar 14

MartinMo says...

sineater wrote:
You have been told before most benefits are paid to pensioners ,and disabled people,are they dragging the country down?,or is it the people who won't pay their tax,and the bankers who with their dodgy dealing wrecked the economy,now give your head a shake ,and start again .
Which are you....

Disabled (maybe mentally by your posts)

Pensioner

One of the ones dragging the nation down

You cant blame people for not wanting to pay taxes into a system they may never benefit and the economy was already in downfall, the bankers just sped it up.

The thought of benefit cuts obviously sickens you to the core, this is the way I felt when taxation increased or the cost of living went up but my salary did not.

As I keep saying, it's not the actual disabled or elderly to blame, it's the nations layabouts, but innocents will also suffer when the problem % is targeted. You need to realise what is the actual problem is.
[quote][p][bold]sineater[/bold] wrote: You have been told before most benefits are paid to pensioners ,and disabled people,are they dragging the country down?,or is it the people who won't pay their tax,and the bankers who with their dodgy dealing wrecked the economy,now give your head a shake ,and start again .[/p][/quote]Which are you.... Disabled (maybe mentally by your posts) Pensioner One of the ones dragging the nation down You cant blame people for not wanting to pay taxes into a system they may never benefit and the economy was already in downfall, the bankers just sped it up. The thought of benefit cuts obviously sickens you to the core, this is the way I felt when taxation increased or the cost of living went up but my salary did not. As I keep saying, it's not the actual disabled or elderly to blame, it's the nations layabouts, but innocents will also suffer when the problem % is targeted. You need to realise what is the actual problem is. MartinMo
  • Score: 1

6:27pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

sineater wrote:
Jacaranda , So you would find it uncomfortable being a parasite,you seem to manage being a thickwit ,and most benefit claimants are not parasites,your so thick ,you believe every thing the tories tell you ,hope you have breathe tattooed on your knuckles !!!
Yeah, whatever!!
[quote][p][bold]sineater[/bold] wrote: Jacaranda , So you would find it uncomfortable being a parasite,you seem to manage being a thickwit ,and most benefit claimants are not parasites,your so thick ,you believe every thing the tories tell you ,hope you have breathe tattooed on your knuckles !!![/p][/quote]Yeah, whatever!! Jackaranda
  • Score: 1

6:29pm Mon 3 Mar 14

sineater says...

Yeh whatever Jacaranda, You seem happy with the parasties that are robbing this country will in office,but no just like the dutiful mug you do the tories job for them, you can't see how you are being used -sad man .
Yeh whatever Jacaranda, You seem happy with the parasties that are robbing this country will in office,but no just like the dutiful mug you do the tories job for them, you can't see how you are being used -sad man . sineater
  • Score: -3

6:40pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

sineater wrote:
Yeh whatever Jacaranda, You seem happy with the parasties that are robbing this country will in office,but no just like the dutiful mug you do the tories job for them, you can't see how you are being used -sad man .
I'll refer the gentleman to the answer I gave earlier!!
[quote][p][bold]sineater[/bold] wrote: Yeh whatever Jacaranda, You seem happy with the parasties that are robbing this country will in office,but no just like the dutiful mug you do the tories job for them, you can't see how you are being used -sad man .[/p][/quote]I'll refer the gentleman to the answer I gave earlier!! Jackaranda
  • Score: 0

10:16am Tue 4 Mar 14

David Lacey says...

Now then - are these PARASTIES that Loopy refers to on sale yet in Greggs?
Now then - are these PARASTIES that Loopy refers to on sale yet in Greggs? David Lacey
  • Score: 2

12:36pm Tue 4 Mar 14

sineater says...

No they are running the government in London !!
No they are running the government in London !! sineater
  • Score: 0

3:04pm Tue 4 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

We have all seen it 'again and again' over the years, costing Britain untold Millions. Many 'Council (and a few Private') estates are peppered with 'nanny free state workshy long term (many for *years on end) benefit fraudulent claimants' who are supposed to be **Sick, bad back and everything from *Housemaids Knee to St Vitus Dance* (but symptoms for these workshy punters, for the latter can only seen when 'alcohol consumed every day of the week'). 'Conning' the benefit systems, left right and centre. Many doing 'Govvie Tax free Jobs' and some even, alighting from wheelchairs carrying bags of cement (on their supposed *bad backs). It even puts most 'Little Britain' sketches to shame. All paid for by the poor 'Mug' working British Taxpayer.......What a Country 'top heavy with bone idle con-merchant benefit parasites, living on our 'working' backs.
We have all seen it 'again and again' over the years, costing Britain untold Millions. Many 'Council (and a few Private') estates are peppered with 'nanny free state workshy long term (many for *years on end) benefit fraudulent claimants' who are supposed to be **Sick, bad back and everything from *Housemaids Knee to St Vitus Dance* (but symptoms for these workshy punters, for the latter can only seen when 'alcohol consumed every day of the week'). 'Conning' the benefit systems, left right and centre. Many doing 'Govvie Tax free Jobs' and some even, alighting from wheelchairs carrying bags of cement (on their supposed *bad backs). It even puts most 'Little Britain' sketches to shame. All paid for by the poor 'Mug' working British Taxpayer.......What a Country 'top heavy with bone idle con-merchant benefit parasites, living on our 'working' backs. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 1

5:04pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Jonn says...

cushybutterfield wrote:
We have all seen it 'again and again' over the years, costing Britain untold Millions. Many 'Council (and a few Private') estates are peppered with 'nanny free state workshy long term (many for *years on end) benefit fraudulent claimants' who are supposed to be **Sick, bad back and everything from *Housemaids Knee to St Vitus Dance* (but symptoms for these workshy punters, for the latter can only seen when 'alcohol consumed every day of the week'). 'Conning' the benefit systems, left right and centre. Many doing 'Govvie Tax free Jobs' and some even, alighting from wheelchairs carrying bags of cement (on their supposed *bad backs). It even puts most 'Little Britain' sketches to shame. All paid for by the poor 'Mug' working British Taxpayer.......What a Country 'top heavy with bone idle con-merchant benefit parasites, living on our 'working' backs.
Housemaids knee! Are you from Victorian times?
[quote][p][bold]cushybutterfield[/bold] wrote: We have all seen it 'again and again' over the years, costing Britain untold Millions. Many 'Council (and a few Private') estates are peppered with 'nanny free state workshy long term (many for *years on end) benefit fraudulent claimants' who are supposed to be **Sick, bad back and everything from *Housemaids Knee to St Vitus Dance* (but symptoms for these workshy punters, for the latter can only seen when 'alcohol consumed every day of the week'). 'Conning' the benefit systems, left right and centre. Many doing 'Govvie Tax free Jobs' and some even, alighting from wheelchairs carrying bags of cement (on their supposed *bad backs). It even puts most 'Little Britain' sketches to shame. All paid for by the poor 'Mug' working British Taxpayer.......What a Country 'top heavy with bone idle con-merchant benefit parasites, living on our 'working' backs.[/p][/quote]Housemaids knee! Are you from Victorian times? Jonn
  • Score: -2

5:40pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Jackaranda says...

David Lacey wrote:
Now then - are these PARASTIES that Loopy refers to on sale yet in Greggs?
Yes Sir, they are 80p each or you can get a pack of 4 PARASTIES for £2.40 ;)
[quote][p][bold]David Lacey[/bold] wrote: Now then - are these PARASTIES that Loopy refers to on sale yet in Greggs?[/p][/quote]Yes Sir, they are 80p each or you can get a pack of 4 PARASTIES for £2.40 ;) Jackaranda
  • Score: 0

7:25pm Tue 4 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

Its a well known fact that hundreds of thousands of ' free nanny State benefit scourging punters' have been ********killing*****
***time for years and years and years. I have just had a ****great idea*****.......get these lot working, even filling sandbags for flood defences, off their butts and EARNING all their Free 'Nanny State Housing/Dole/Welfare Benefits'. We have all got to work, so Why Not ? these lot, living on the backs of the 'poor mug ***working Taxpayer.
Its a well known fact that hundreds of thousands of ' free nanny State benefit scourging punters' have been ********killing***** ***time for years and years and years. I have just had a ****great idea*****.......get these lot working, even filling sandbags for flood defences, off their butts and EARNING all their Free 'Nanny State Housing/Dole/Welfare Benefits'. We have all got to work, so Why Not ? these lot, living on the backs of the 'poor mug ***working Taxpayer. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 0

10:01am Wed 5 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

We will be providing ***Free mattresses, Toilet paper and slippers next, for some (not all) 'long-term benefit claimant's' next,......... to go * with their annual workshy £3O, OOO....£40,OOO £50,OOO up to a Million Pound Free Benefit ...... (14 and 15 Kids), state hand-outs, paid for my the poor down trodden, 'half the world providing..... 'Mug' British **Working Taxpayer..
We will be providing ***Free mattresses, Toilet paper and slippers next, for some (not all) 'long-term benefit claimant's' next,......... to go * with their annual workshy £3O, OOO....£40,OOO £50,OOO up to a Million Pound Free Benefit ...... (14 and 15 Kids), state hand-outs, paid for my the poor down trodden, 'half the world providing..... 'Mug' British **Working Taxpayer.. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 2

4:06pm Fri 7 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

You could not make it up, the LIBERAL Party have given a pledge to fight for increased free benefits for all immigrants into Britain. All paid for (Yes your right, YET AGAIN) by the 'poor' Mug abused 'Working British Taxpaye'r who already 'looks after and pays for nearly 'half the world'. Another stampede on voting day to 'UKIP', thank you CLEGG and Liberals for that......Liberal Party as much use to Britain as a 'chocolate-fireguard
'.
You could not make it up, the LIBERAL Party have given a pledge to fight for increased free benefits for all immigrants into Britain. All paid for (Yes your right, YET AGAIN) by the 'poor' Mug abused 'Working British Taxpaye'r who already 'looks after and pays for nearly 'half the world'. Another stampede on voting day to 'UKIP', thank you CLEGG and Liberals for that......Liberal Party as much use to Britain as a 'chocolate-fireguard '. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 0

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