Judge warning over killer drug up to ten times more potent than Ecstacy after death of teenage mum

Darlington and Stockton Times: Jailed: James Meaney Jailed: James Meaney

A JUDGE called for greater awareness of a new killer drug as he jailed a man whose girlfriend died after supplying it to her at a party.

James Meaney was locked up for seven months for giving three paramethoxyamphetamine tablets to tragic teenager Nicole Tomlinson.

The pills - known as PMA, or 'Dr Death' or 'Killer' on the streets - have been linked to around 100 deaths in the last three years.

Judge Tony Briggs - who admitted he had never heard of it - said: "The absolutely lethal effects of it ought to be more widely known."

Meaney thought he was buying Ecstasy when he got six pills for £35 at the party in Darlington in February 2012, Teesside Crown Court heard.

He took three and gave three to Miss Tomlinson, 19, who swallowed one after the other when she thought they were not giving her a high.

The court heard the tablets take longer to work than Ecstasy - even though they are up to ten times more potent - and lull people into having more.

Prosecutor Dan Cordey told Judge Briggs: "Users who take it believing it is Ecstasy are at increased risk of overdose."

The judge said: "The danger needing to be emphasised is people think it's not working and take more, and the dose is doubled or trebled."

Meaney, of Headlam Road, in the Eastbourne area of Darlington, pleaded guilty to a charge of supplying Class A drugs when he was due to face a trial last month.

But in an earlier defence statement, which would have been used had he not admitted it - he claimed his teenage girlfriend had given him them.

His barrister, Martin Towers, described the case as "immensely sad and distressing" and said Meaney was also a victim - losing his partner.

The young couple had been together for five years and had a two-year-old son at the time of the tragedy, the court was told.

Mr Towers said a probation officer told of "positive changes in lifestyle, decision-making and attitude" in a report he had written.

"It is a different man who is being sentenced today than it would have been had he been sentenced in the aftermath of these events," he said.

"The defendant was only 20 at the time, so ten per cent of his life lies between that awful day and his day of reckoning today."

After the case, Detective Constable Neil Stannard branded Meaney a coward for claiming Miss Tomlinson had given him the drugs.

Throughout his interviews with police, Meaney admitted buying the super-strength pills and supplying them to his girlfriend.

Yet, when he reached court, the jobless 22-year-old "changed his story 100 per cent", Det Con Stannard said last night.

It was not until he was on the brink of a trial - and a potential jail sentence - that Meaney accepted his clear involvement.

"It was a cowardly act to blame someone who could not answer back," said the detective. "Thankfully, he finally saw sense.

"It is clear he did not intend for Nicole to die - they are the tragic consequences which often associate with drug taking.

"What we can say though, is if she had never been in a relationship with Meaney, the chances are she'd still be alive today.

"People should be aware that this drug is on the streets, and they should be aware of its potentially-fatal consequences."

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10:31am Wed 26 Feb 14

Ally F says...

What a tragic mess, and how staggeringly stupid of this man. A mother and father of a two year old child both consume illegal Class A drugs, they don't even now what they were consuming - the mother, still a teenager, dies from a drugs overdose leaving a smack-head with a kid. Initially the defendant tries to blame his deceased partner. How low can you sink? It doesn't bode at all well for the future of the child.

Mr Meaney, your stupidity has cost your former partner her life, and whether or not you planned it, you have a child and therefore adult responsibilities. Choose the right path. Please get yourself clean, get a job and be the responsible man you could be. I hope and pray you do.
What a tragic mess, and how staggeringly stupid of this man. A mother and father of a two year old child both consume illegal Class A drugs, they don't even now what they were consuming - the mother, still a teenager, dies from a drugs overdose leaving a smack-head with a kid. Initially the defendant tries to blame his deceased partner. How low can you sink? It doesn't bode at all well for the future of the child. Mr Meaney, your stupidity has cost your former partner her life, and whether or not you planned it, you have a child and therefore adult responsibilities. Choose the right path. Please get yourself clean, get a job and be the responsible man you could be. I hope and pray you do. Ally F

12:17pm Wed 26 Feb 14

David Lacey says...

All classified drugs are evil. They need to be eradicated from our society. Severe penalties for both supply and use are needed.
All classified drugs are evil. They need to be eradicated from our society. Severe penalties for both supply and use are needed. David Lacey

12:33pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Rasselas says...

Well put David, however your view is not shared by the out of step thinking of the defeatist Chief Constable of Durham whose attempt to decriminalise class A drugs will increase these tyoe of tragedies.
Well put David, however your view is not shared by the out of step thinking of the defeatist Chief Constable of Durham whose attempt to decriminalise class A drugs will increase these tyoe of tragedies. Rasselas

1:27pm Wed 26 Feb 14

sefa says...

David Lacey wrote:
All classified drugs are evil. They need to be eradicated from our society. Severe penalties for both supply and use are needed.
Most are no worse than alcohol. I think we need to do something about that first.
[quote][p][bold]David Lacey[/bold] wrote: All classified drugs are evil. They need to be eradicated from our society. Severe penalties for both supply and use are needed.[/p][/quote]Most are no worse than alcohol. I think we need to do something about that first. sefa

1:41pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Mike2012 says...

sefa wrote:
David Lacey wrote:
All classified drugs are evil. They need to be eradicated from our society. Severe penalties for both supply and use are needed.
Most are no worse than alcohol. I think we need to do something about that first.
Couldn't agree more!
[quote][p][bold]sefa[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David Lacey[/bold] wrote: All classified drugs are evil. They need to be eradicated from our society. Severe penalties for both supply and use are needed.[/p][/quote]Most are no worse than alcohol. I think we need to do something about that first.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more! Mike2012

1:57pm Wed 26 Feb 14

David Lacey says...

So what do you want to do about alcohol? Ban it?
So what do you want to do about alcohol? Ban it? David Lacey

2:09pm Wed 26 Feb 14

sefa says...

No, not at all.

Follow a similar route to tobacco, restrict advertising for a start.

I was watching Newcastle Aston Villa game on Sunday and smack in the middle of the game there was an advert for Carling. That's about 2pm on a Sunday when children will be watching. The last I heard was it was for over 18s only. Surely it should only be advertised after the watershed.

It's also entirely hypocritical to see the ban on all tobacco advertising but see five-year-old children walking around with Everton shirts on with Chang Beer on the front.

Raising the price of alcohol should come second to trying to change the drinking culture and it doesn't help when children are exposed daily to alcohol companies pushing their product.

I'm not trying to pretend that's the answer, but as I said, it would be a good start.

Alcohol abuse costs us £20bn a year compared to £3bn with tobacco. How the alcohol industry has got away with being relatively untouched up until now astounds me.
No, not at all. Follow a similar route to tobacco, restrict advertising for a start. I was watching Newcastle Aston Villa game on Sunday and smack in the middle of the game there was an advert for Carling. That's about 2pm on a Sunday when children will be watching. The last I heard was it was for over 18s only. Surely it should only be advertised after the watershed. It's also entirely hypocritical to see the ban on all tobacco advertising but see five-year-old children walking around with Everton shirts on with Chang Beer on the front. Raising the price of alcohol should come second to trying to change the drinking culture and it doesn't help when children are exposed daily to alcohol companies pushing their product. I'm not trying to pretend that's the answer, but as I said, it would be a good start. Alcohol abuse costs us £20bn a year compared to £3bn with tobacco. How the alcohol industry has got away with being relatively untouched up until now astounds me. sefa

2:14pm Wed 26 Feb 14

David Lacey says...

I agree. But what has that got to do with banning the trading and use of classified drugs?
I agree. But what has that got to do with banning the trading and use of classified drugs? David Lacey

2:33pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Mike2012 says...

Serious answer here..... Why not ban it??

Ever been through the town centre late at night on a weekend (ANYWHERE in the country)? Ever had to go to the hospital on a weekend? Ever had to go to the local shop first thing on a morning and queue behind someone who's clearly shaking whilst buying 2 bottles of cider?? Ever had to walk past people drinking on the street / in the local park next to playing kids??

The point i'm making is this, it causes so many problems, it isn't something the body needs, it's detrimental to health, costs the NHS ££MILLIONS, why not ban it along with cigarettes? People would soon get over it if it was nowhere to be found in this country.

I realise i'll get a lot of dislikes to this, but i'd actually like to get a debate going on why we shouldn't ban alcohol.
Serious answer here..... Why not ban it?? Ever been through the town centre late at night on a weekend (ANYWHERE in the country)? Ever had to go to the hospital on a weekend? Ever had to go to the local shop first thing on a morning and queue behind someone who's clearly shaking whilst buying 2 bottles of cider?? Ever had to walk past people drinking on the street / in the local park next to playing kids?? The point i'm making is this, it causes so many problems, it isn't something the body needs, it's detrimental to health, costs the NHS ££MILLIONS, why not ban it along with cigarettes? People would soon get over it if it was nowhere to be found in this country. I realise i'll get a lot of dislikes to this, but i'd actually like to get a debate going on why we shouldn't ban alcohol. Mike2012

3:01pm Wed 26 Feb 14

charliebrown1 says...

Mike2012 wrote:
Serious answer here..... Why not ban it?? Ever been through the town centre late at night on a weekend (ANYWHERE in the country)? Ever had to go to the hospital on a weekend? Ever had to go to the local shop first thing on a morning and queue behind someone who's clearly shaking whilst buying 2 bottles of cider?? Ever had to walk past people drinking on the street / in the local park next to playing kids?? The point i'm making is this, it causes so many problems, it isn't something the body needs, it's detrimental to health, costs the NHS ££MILLIONS, why not ban it along with cigarettes? People would soon get over it if it was nowhere to be found in this country. I realise i'll get a lot of dislikes to this, but i'd actually like to get a debate going on why we shouldn't ban alcohol.
this is the heading - Judge warning over killer drug up to ten times more potent than Ecstacy after death of teenage mum. Nothing about alcohol. I cant believe how many people go off track!
[quote][p][bold]Mike2012[/bold] wrote: Serious answer here..... Why not ban it?? Ever been through the town centre late at night on a weekend (ANYWHERE in the country)? Ever had to go to the hospital on a weekend? Ever had to go to the local shop first thing on a morning and queue behind someone who's clearly shaking whilst buying 2 bottles of cider?? Ever had to walk past people drinking on the street / in the local park next to playing kids?? The point i'm making is this, it causes so many problems, it isn't something the body needs, it's detrimental to health, costs the NHS ££MILLIONS, why not ban it along with cigarettes? People would soon get over it if it was nowhere to be found in this country. I realise i'll get a lot of dislikes to this, but i'd actually like to get a debate going on why we shouldn't ban alcohol.[/p][/quote]this is the heading - Judge warning over killer drug up to ten times more potent than Ecstacy after death of teenage mum. Nothing about alcohol. I cant believe how many people go off track! charliebrown1

3:28pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Yemen says...

David Lacey wrote:
So what do you want to do about alcohol? Ban it?
prohibition did not work in the states i dont believe that's an option. However the draconian laws we have now are not working either. we're loosing the war and the big criminals are winning it.

Quite a few states in the USA are now legalizing cannabis, i say lets do the same over here. All of a sudden lots of little home run business will pop up, people will not end up in front of magistrates for possession and the police can concentrate on the hard drugs... the ones that kill you.

Also consider this before poo pooing my opinion.... you see two people in the street fighting... are they drunk or are they stoned ?
[quote][p][bold]David Lacey[/bold] wrote: So what do you want to do about alcohol? Ban it?[/p][/quote]prohibition did not work in the states i dont believe that's an option. However the draconian laws we have now are not working either. we're loosing the war and the big criminals are winning it. Quite a few states in the USA are now legalizing cannabis, i say lets do the same over here. All of a sudden lots of little home run business will pop up, people will not end up in front of magistrates for possession and the police can concentrate on the hard drugs... the ones that kill you. Also consider this before poo pooing my opinion.... you see two people in the street fighting... are they drunk or are they stoned ? Yemen

3:30pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Mike2012 says...

charliebrown1 wrote:
Mike2012 wrote:
Serious answer here..... Why not ban it?? Ever been through the town centre late at night on a weekend (ANYWHERE in the country)? Ever had to go to the hospital on a weekend? Ever had to go to the local shop first thing on a morning and queue behind someone who's clearly shaking whilst buying 2 bottles of cider?? Ever had to walk past people drinking on the street / in the local park next to playing kids?? The point i'm making is this, it causes so many problems, it isn't something the body needs, it's detrimental to health, costs the NHS ££MILLIONS, why not ban it along with cigarettes? People would soon get over it if it was nowhere to be found in this country. I realise i'll get a lot of dislikes to this, but i'd actually like to get a debate going on why we shouldn't ban alcohol.
this is the heading - Judge warning over killer drug up to ten times more potent than Ecstacy after death of teenage mum. Nothing about alcohol. I cant believe how many people go off track!
Off track 'eh? So alcohol isn't a "killer drug"?? You want to compare deaths related to alcohol use to that of ecstasy?? I think we all know ALL drugs are bad for us, where's the harm in "going off track"
[quote][p][bold]charliebrown1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike2012[/bold] wrote: Serious answer here..... Why not ban it?? Ever been through the town centre late at night on a weekend (ANYWHERE in the country)? Ever had to go to the hospital on a weekend? Ever had to go to the local shop first thing on a morning and queue behind someone who's clearly shaking whilst buying 2 bottles of cider?? Ever had to walk past people drinking on the street / in the local park next to playing kids?? The point i'm making is this, it causes so many problems, it isn't something the body needs, it's detrimental to health, costs the NHS ££MILLIONS, why not ban it along with cigarettes? People would soon get over it if it was nowhere to be found in this country. I realise i'll get a lot of dislikes to this, but i'd actually like to get a debate going on why we shouldn't ban alcohol.[/p][/quote]this is the heading - Judge warning over killer drug up to ten times more potent than Ecstacy after death of teenage mum. Nothing about alcohol. I cant believe how many people go off track![/p][/quote]Off track 'eh? So alcohol isn't a "killer drug"?? You want to compare deaths related to alcohol use to that of ecstasy?? I think we all know ALL drugs are bad for us, where's the harm in "going off track" Mike2012

4:18pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Andyleigh says...

If you are dumb enough to take drugs you deserve what you get.
If you are dumb enough to take drugs you deserve what you get. Andyleigh

4:44pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Tregeor says...

This pair have a young child and the best idea they could come up with is to go out and spend a good bit of their dole money on illegal drugs?
I've got no sympathy with either of them, I just hope the kid is adopted by a decent family who will love and take care of it.
This pair have a young child and the best idea they could come up with is to go out and spend a good bit of their dole money on illegal drugs? I've got no sympathy with either of them, I just hope the kid is adopted by a decent family who will love and take care of it. Tregeor

4:47pm Wed 26 Feb 14

jandarlo says...

Andyleigh wrote:
If you are dumb enough to take drugs you deserve what you get.
where is your compassion andyleigh?! regardless of your opinions there is a time and a place. a young girl has lost her life and a child it's mother. the young girl's family will probably read this and comments like this are inappropriate and thoughtless. I am sorry for their loss and the circumstances are irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]Andyleigh[/bold] wrote: If you are dumb enough to take drugs you deserve what you get.[/p][/quote]where is your compassion andyleigh?! regardless of your opinions there is a time and a place. a young girl has lost her life and a child it's mother. the young girl's family will probably read this and comments like this are inappropriate and thoughtless. I am sorry for their loss and the circumstances are irrelevant. jandarlo

5:08pm Wed 26 Feb 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

Let them take the drugs. Hopefully they'll all die slow painful death.

this is natural selection at work and I love it.
Let them take the drugs. Hopefully they'll all die slow painful death. this is natural selection at work and I love it. thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth

7:37pm Wed 26 Feb 14

aguero says...

Tregeor wrote:
This pair have a young child and the best idea they could come up with is to go out and spend a good bit of their dole money on illegal drugs?
I've got no sympathy with either of them, I just hope the kid is adopted by a decent family who will love and take care of it.
Well spoke absolute no sympathy for either of them and hope the druggie father gets a rough deal in prison The child will hopefully never see his scumbag dad again and will be fostered by a caring family.
[quote][p][bold]Tregeor[/bold] wrote: This pair have a young child and the best idea they could come up with is to go out and spend a good bit of their dole money on illegal drugs? I've got no sympathy with either of them, I just hope the kid is adopted by a decent family who will love and take care of it.[/p][/quote]Well spoke absolute no sympathy for either of them and hope the druggie father gets a rough deal in prison The child will hopefully never see his scumbag dad again and will be fostered by a caring family. aguero

7:43pm Wed 26 Feb 14

therealtonyducks says...

There are some backward little people who post on this site.

Ecstasy (MDMA) is a safe drug (insofar far as drugs can be totally safe. Far more people have died from adverse reactions to aspirin than they have ecstasy - FACT). The head scientist on the government's advisory council for drugs agreed with this statement, and because it was politically unpopular, was ignored and resigned from his post.

Had ecstasy been legal upon the night in question these kids would have purchased it from a licensed retailer and would probably has a really enjoyable evening. As it remains illegal, they purchased an untested tablet and tragically, one of them died and the other ended up in prison.

For drugs such as ecstasy and cannabis, which in terms of social and economical damage potential are WAY below alcohol and tobacco, it is bewildering to me why they are not legal already.
There are some backward little people who post on this site. Ecstasy (MDMA) is a safe drug (insofar far as drugs can be totally safe. Far more people have died from adverse reactions to aspirin than they have ecstasy - FACT). The head scientist on the government's advisory council for drugs agreed with this statement, and because it was politically unpopular, was ignored and resigned from his post. Had ecstasy been legal upon the night in question these kids would have purchased it from a licensed retailer and would probably has a really enjoyable evening. As it remains illegal, they purchased an untested tablet and tragically, one of them died and the other ended up in prison. For drugs such as ecstasy and cannabis, which in terms of social and economical damage potential are WAY below alcohol and tobacco, it is bewildering to me why they are not legal already. therealtonyducks

8:11pm Wed 26 Feb 14

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8:53pm Wed 26 Feb 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

I know they say its wrong to stereotype, but you can just see this freak is one of life's losers.

Lets hope he picks the soap up in the prison shower.
I know they say its wrong to stereotype, but you can just see this freak is one of life's losers. Lets hope he picks the soap up in the prison shower. NO EINSTEIN

9:35pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Robert_ says...

Lucky escape for the child who now hopefully will be brought up by people who put it ahead of drug taking.
Lucky escape for the child who now hopefully will be brought up by people who put it ahead of drug taking. Robert_

9:40pm Wed 26 Feb 14

always your mum says...

scum pure scum ,makes out it was his other half who supplied the drugs well shes dead so cant defend that, good job it wasnt my daughter ,he wouldnt have made it to court,and he hasnt been out of jail long neither like i said scum.
scum pure scum ,makes out it was his other half who supplied the drugs well shes dead so cant defend that, good job it wasnt my daughter ,he wouldnt have made it to court,and he hasnt been out of jail long neither like i said scum. always your mum

9:44pm Wed 26 Feb 14

always your mum says...

jandarlo wrote:
Andyleigh wrote:
If you are dumb enough to take drugs you deserve what you get.
where is your compassion andyleigh?! regardless of your opinions there is a time and a place. a young girl has lost her life and a child it's mother. the young girl's family will probably read this and comments like this are inappropriate and thoughtless. I am sorry for their loss and the circumstances are irrelevant.
compassion my arse ,she wasnt thinking of her child when she took the pills was she .oh yes a very responsible mother indeed ,and as the saying goes you lie down with dogs you get fleas.
[quote][p][bold]jandarlo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andyleigh[/bold] wrote: If you are dumb enough to take drugs you deserve what you get.[/p][/quote]where is your compassion andyleigh?! regardless of your opinions there is a time and a place. a young girl has lost her life and a child it's mother. the young girl's family will probably read this and comments like this are inappropriate and thoughtless. I am sorry for their loss and the circumstances are irrelevant.[/p][/quote]compassion my arse ,she wasnt thinking of her child when she took the pills was she .oh yes a very responsible mother indeed ,and as the saying goes you lie down with dogs you get fleas. always your mum

10:10pm Wed 26 Feb 14

darloboss says...

nowt but scum the whole lot of them
nowt but scum the whole lot of them darloboss

11:02pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Voice-of-reality says...

Well at least without a druggie mother the child may now have a chance in life.
As a society we really should stop the handwrining of 'what a shame' rather we should encourage the drug takers - the more that die - the cleaner society will ultimately become.
Well at least without a druggie mother the child may now have a chance in life. As a society we really should stop the handwrining of 'what a shame' rather we should encourage the drug takers - the more that die - the cleaner society will ultimately become. Voice-of-reality

11:05pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Voice-of-reality says...

and the killer was jobless - what a surprise. No money and yet he can buy drugs. No doubt the usual suspects will start claiming how he was failed by the state, how it is the Tories fault - and how there is real poverty in the north-east. Well, as DL notes, there isn't. The poor need - as the middle classes do - to cut their garment accordingly to their cloth. As for the workshy underclass would their mass poisoning through self inflicted drug abuse really be such a bad thing?
and the killer was jobless - what a surprise. No money and yet he can buy drugs. No doubt the usual suspects will start claiming how he was failed by the state, how it is the Tories fault - and how there is real poverty in the north-east. Well, as DL notes, there isn't. The poor need - as the middle classes do - to cut their garment accordingly to their cloth. As for the workshy underclass would their mass poisoning through self inflicted drug abuse really be such a bad thing? Voice-of-reality

8:35am Thu 27 Feb 14

Jackaranda says...

thetruthyoucanthandl
ethetruth
wrote:
Let them take the drugs. Hopefully they'll all die slow painful death.

this is natural selection at work and I love it.
Your comment looks harsh, but I agree with you 100% and more.
[quote][p][bold]thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth[/bold] wrote: Let them take the drugs. Hopefully they'll all die slow painful death. this is natural selection at work and I love it.[/p][/quote]Your comment looks harsh, but I agree with you 100% and more. Jackaranda

8:43am Thu 27 Feb 14

charliebrown1 says...

Mike2012 wrote:
charliebrown1 wrote:
Mike2012 wrote: Serious answer here..... Why not ban it?? Ever been through the town centre late at night on a weekend (ANYWHERE in the country)? Ever had to go to the hospital on a weekend? Ever had to go to the local shop first thing on a morning and queue behind someone who's clearly shaking whilst buying 2 bottles of cider?? Ever had to walk past people drinking on the street / in the local park next to playing kids?? The point i'm making is this, it causes so many problems, it isn't something the body needs, it's detrimental to health, costs the NHS ££MILLIONS, why not ban it along with cigarettes? People would soon get over it if it was nowhere to be found in this country. I realise i'll get a lot of dislikes to this, but i'd actually like to get a debate going on why we shouldn't ban alcohol.
this is the heading - Judge warning over killer drug up to ten times more potent than Ecstacy after death of teenage mum. Nothing about alcohol. I cant believe how many people go off track!
Off track 'eh? So alcohol isn't a "killer drug"?? You want to compare deaths related to alcohol use to that of ecstasy?? I think we all know ALL drugs are bad for us, where's the harm in "going off track"
yes we know alcohol is also a prob but this report is about drugs, why go off onto another road. Calm yourself down Mike
[quote][p][bold]Mike2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]charliebrown1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike2012[/bold] wrote: Serious answer here..... Why not ban it?? Ever been through the town centre late at night on a weekend (ANYWHERE in the country)? Ever had to go to the hospital on a weekend? Ever had to go to the local shop first thing on a morning and queue behind someone who's clearly shaking whilst buying 2 bottles of cider?? Ever had to walk past people drinking on the street / in the local park next to playing kids?? The point i'm making is this, it causes so many problems, it isn't something the body needs, it's detrimental to health, costs the NHS ££MILLIONS, why not ban it along with cigarettes? People would soon get over it if it was nowhere to be found in this country. I realise i'll get a lot of dislikes to this, but i'd actually like to get a debate going on why we shouldn't ban alcohol.[/p][/quote]this is the heading - Judge warning over killer drug up to ten times more potent than Ecstacy after death of teenage mum. Nothing about alcohol. I cant believe how many people go off track![/p][/quote]Off track 'eh? So alcohol isn't a "killer drug"?? You want to compare deaths related to alcohol use to that of ecstasy?? I think we all know ALL drugs are bad for us, where's the harm in "going off track"[/p][/quote]yes we know alcohol is also a prob but this report is about drugs, why go off onto another road. Calm yourself down Mike charliebrown1

12:28pm Thu 27 Feb 14

joemarie says...

Do any of you know how it is to lose a child.?? Well I do because this my daughter who was not a druggie,she made 1 mistake and cost her life,her Georgeous son is not with this scumbag and he never will be,she was a beautiful young lady who we as family miss n cherish and go through the pain everyday.
Do any of you know how it is to lose a child.?? Well I do because this my daughter who was not a druggie,she made 1 mistake and cost her life,her Georgeous son is not with this scumbag and he never will be,she was a beautiful young lady who we as family miss n cherish and go through the pain everyday. joemarie

12:59pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Yemen says...

you lot are effing disgusting, a poor girl has lost her life due to illegal drugs and all you can do is spew hate and lynch mob comments....most of you likely drink ... during prohibition in the USA people died daily from bad alcohol. this is just the same.

The fact these drugs are illegal is why this girl died. the criminals behind the supply are the ones making these drug dangerous, no one has ever been able to stop their use no strategy has ever worked... criminal put what they like in them and people buy them and die. its time for a change of tactics, i do not agree with illegal drugs but i do believe what we are doing to combat them is not working.

my condolences to her family ... and my utter revulsion and disgust to the rest of you.
you lot are effing disgusting, a poor girl has lost her life due to illegal drugs and all you can do is spew hate and lynch mob comments....most of you likely drink ... during prohibition in the USA people died daily from bad alcohol. this is just the same. The fact these drugs are illegal is why this girl died. the criminals behind the supply are the ones making these drug dangerous, no one has ever been able to stop their use no strategy has ever worked... criminal put what they like in them and people buy them and die. its time for a change of tactics, i do not agree with illegal drugs but i do believe what we are doing to combat them is not working. my condolences to her family ... and my utter revulsion and disgust to the rest of you. Yemen

5:16pm Thu 27 Feb 14

BMD says...

Ronn Hogg and Mike Barton want to legalise herion for addicts at the tax-payers expense.
Ronn Hogg and Mike Barton want to legalise herion for addicts at the tax-payers expense. BMD

8:56am Fri 28 Feb 14

Yemen says...

BMD wrote:
Ronn Hogg and Mike Barton want to legalise herion for addicts at the tax-payers expense.
afaik... they dont want to 'legalise' it as in your can buy it at boot the chemist...

what they want ( as i do) is for the possesion of small amounts to be de-criminalised so the police do not spend valuable time chasing minor users and can concentrate of the bigger fish...

the tax payer is already paying for prison space for these addicts anyway.
[quote][p][bold]BMD[/bold] wrote: Ronn Hogg and Mike Barton want to legalise herion for addicts at the tax-payers expense.[/p][/quote]afaik... they dont want to 'legalise' it as in your can buy it at boot the chemist... what they want ( as i do) is for the possesion of small amounts to be de-criminalised so the police do not spend valuable time chasing minor users and can concentrate of the bigger fish... the tax payer is already paying for prison space for these addicts anyway. Yemen

9:55am Fri 28 Feb 14

jandarlo says...

joemarie wrote:
Do any of you know how it is to lose a child.?? Well I do because this my daughter who was not a druggie,she made 1 mistake and cost her life,her Georgeous son is not with this scumbag and he never will be,she was a beautiful young lady who we as family miss n cherish and go through the pain everyday.
I, for one, am very sorry for your loss as I said in my previous post. ignore the horrible comments please. we aren't all as heartless and judgemental as some idiots on here. I hope you find comfort in your happy memories and the love of your grandchild. my condolences.
[quote][p][bold]joemarie[/bold] wrote: Do any of you know how it is to lose a child.?? Well I do because this my daughter who was not a druggie,she made 1 mistake and cost her life,her Georgeous son is not with this scumbag and he never will be,she was a beautiful young lady who we as family miss n cherish and go through the pain everyday.[/p][/quote]I, for one, am very sorry for your loss as I said in my previous post. ignore the horrible comments please. we aren't all as heartless and judgemental as some idiots on here. I hope you find comfort in your happy memories and the love of your grandchild. my condolences. jandarlo

10:01pm Fri 28 Feb 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

Yemen wrote:
you lot are effing disgusting, a poor girl has lost her life due to illegal drugs and all you can do is spew hate and lynch mob comments....most of you likely drink ... during prohibition in the USA people died daily from bad alcohol. this is just the same.

The fact these drugs are illegal is why this girl died. the criminals behind the supply are the ones making these drug dangerous, no one has ever been able to stop their use no strategy has ever worked... criminal put what they like in them and people buy them and die. its time for a change of tactics, i do not agree with illegal drugs but i do believe what we are doing to combat them is not working.

my condolences to her family ... and my utter revulsion and disgust to the rest of you.
I stand by my comments 100%.

If you take drugs you deserve everything you get.

Natural selection is the best way to keep the species strong. This is natural selection at it's best.

Drug users are dirty scumbags.
[quote][p][bold]Yemen[/bold] wrote: you lot are effing disgusting, a poor girl has lost her life due to illegal drugs and all you can do is spew hate and lynch mob comments....most of you likely drink ... during prohibition in the USA people died daily from bad alcohol. this is just the same. The fact these drugs are illegal is why this girl died. the criminals behind the supply are the ones making these drug dangerous, no one has ever been able to stop their use no strategy has ever worked... criminal put what they like in them and people buy them and die. its time for a change of tactics, i do not agree with illegal drugs but i do believe what we are doing to combat them is not working. my condolences to her family ... and my utter revulsion and disgust to the rest of you.[/p][/quote]I stand by my comments 100%. If you take drugs you deserve everything you get. Natural selection is the best way to keep the species strong. This is natural selection at it's best. Drug users are dirty scumbags. thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth

10:42pm Fri 28 Feb 14

madsmadsissy says...

Have some respect...this was someone's daughter/granddaught
er/sister/mummy...am disgusted with the comments on here especially from thetruthyoucanthandl
ethetruth. Meet me....PLEASE
Have some respect...this was someone's daughter/granddaught er/sister/mummy...am disgusted with the comments on here especially from thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth. Meet me....PLEASE madsmadsissy

7:12pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Robert_ says...

Why do you want to meet?
Why do you want to meet? Robert_

7:18pm Sat 1 Mar 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

madsmadsissy wrote:
Have some respect...this was someone's daughter/granddaught

er/sister/mummy...am disgusted with the comments on here especially from thetruthyoucanthandl

ethetruth. Meet me....PLEASE
Please elaborate if you dare.

Crank
[quote][p][bold]madsmadsissy[/bold] wrote: Have some respect...this was someone's daughter/granddaught er/sister/mummy...am disgusted with the comments on here especially from thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth. Meet me....PLEASE[/p][/quote]Please elaborate if you dare. Crank thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth

8:19am Sun 2 Mar 14

laboursfoe says...

This is just another example of some sections of society today..... No responsibility.

I reaaaly feel and my thoughts are with her family, she obviously didn't consider the risks or consider them when deciding whether to take the pill. This wasn't a cry for help or desperation it was a conscious decision that she, and thousands like her, make every weekend. To put what they want ahead of everything that loves and cares about them, pure selfishness.
This is just another example of some sections of society today..... No responsibility. I reaaaly feel and my thoughts are with her family, she obviously didn't consider the risks or consider them when deciding whether to take the pill. This wasn't a cry for help or desperation it was a conscious decision that she, and thousands like her, make every weekend. To put what they want ahead of everything that loves and cares about them, pure selfishness. laboursfoe

5:13pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Robert_ says...

"she obviously didn't consider the risks or consider them when deciding whether to take the pill."

3 pills... one wasn't enough for her....
"she obviously didn't consider the risks or consider them when deciding whether to take the pill." 3 pills... one wasn't enough for her.... Robert_

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