Fortnightly rubbish collection for Darlington given the go-ahead

Darlington and Stockton Times: Street Scene team leader Dave Hutchinson with the proposed collection pack for the majority of Darlington households; wheelie bin on left for general rubbish, small green box for glass, smaller wheelie bin for recycling with caddy for paper Street Scene team leader Dave Hutchinson with the proposed collection pack for the majority of Darlington households; wheelie bin on left for general rubbish, small green box for glass, smaller wheelie bin for recycling with caddy for paper

PLANS to revise rubbish collections in Darlington have been given the go-ahead by councillors.

The change to a fortnightly refuse collection was tonight (Tuesday, January 7) approved by members at a meeting of Darlington Borough Council’s cabinet and is expected to save the authority £400,000 a year.

From October, an alternate weekly collection service will see general waste collected one week, and recycling waste picked up the second.

Under the new scheme, the majority of residents in the borough will split their waste between two wheelie bins – the existing bin for general waste and another for recycling, with a built in caddy for paper and card, as well the current box for glass.

Around 8,500 properties will not receive a second wheelie bin as the wagon for recycling collections will be too big to access the back lanes.

Instead these properties will receive a second box for recyclables, including plastics, cans, metals and cartons, in addition to the existing box for glass and bag for paper and card.

The move comes months after wheelie bins were introduced in Darlington for the first time, which caused controversy among some residents.

Speaking at the meeting, Councillor Chris McEwan, cabinet member for economy and regeneration said: “I have yet to hear one of my residents complaining about wheelie bins.

"In fact a lot of them have said thank you for bringing us into the 21st century.”

Councillor Heather Scott, Conservative group leader for the authority and Park West ward member, said she has repeatedly raised concerns about bins not being returned properly once they have been emptied.

She also questioned whether people had the time or inclination to separate and clean their rubbish before putting it in the correct recycling bin.

“If we cannot even get them to put the wheelie bins in the right place, how on earth are we going to get them to wash things so that they can be recycled,” she said.

Approving the plans, councillors agreed that more education is needed to ensure people use their bins correctly and do not leave them blocking pavements.

Councillor Nick Wallis, cabinet member for leisure and local environment, said: “This is a service that runs in many local authorities, not just in the North-East but across the UK.

“We have to make sure this new system meets the needs of the majority of residents and in my opinion this scheme does.”

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7:24pm Tue 7 Jan 14

grandmab says...

Still no provision to recycle compostable waste. Those of us without cars or gardens cannot home compost so in the bin it goes.
Still no provision to recycle compostable waste. Those of us without cars or gardens cannot home compost so in the bin it goes. grandmab

9:56pm Tue 7 Jan 14

tabby67 says...

its about time we had a garden waste bin!
I would recycle much more if i could some places even recycle by having a small food bin !

we are way behind the rest of the country shame council didn't forward plan and give us all a larger bin, i do recycle and i don't think i will get everything in when it goes fortnightly
its about time we had a garden waste bin! I would recycle much more if i could some places even recycle by having a small food bin ! we are way behind the rest of the country shame council didn't forward plan and give us all a larger bin, i do recycle and i don't think i will get everything in when it goes fortnightly tabby67

9:34am Wed 8 Jan 14

miketually says...

grandmab wrote:
Still no provision to recycle compostable waste. Those of us without cars or gardens cannot home compost so in the bin it goes.
That is a shame. I've seen schemes to collect compostable waste set up by local groups; I wonder if there's anyone interested in Darlington?
[quote][p][bold]grandmab[/bold] wrote: Still no provision to recycle compostable waste. Those of us without cars or gardens cannot home compost so in the bin it goes.[/p][/quote]That is a shame. I've seen schemes to collect compostable waste set up by local groups; I wonder if there's anyone interested in Darlington? miketually

9:35am Wed 8 Jan 14

miketually says...

tabby67 wrote:
its about time we had a garden waste bin!
I would recycle much more if i could some places even recycle by having a small food bin !

we are way behind the rest of the country shame council didn't forward plan and give us all a larger bin, i do recycle and i don't think i will get everything in when it goes fortnightly
The new bin will take a lot of stuff that currently goes into the general waste bin: plastic, cartons and metals. That should hugely reduce the amount of waste going into the general bin.
[quote][p][bold]tabby67[/bold] wrote: its about time we had a garden waste bin! I would recycle much more if i could some places even recycle by having a small food bin ! we are way behind the rest of the country shame council didn't forward plan and give us all a larger bin, i do recycle and i don't think i will get everything in when it goes fortnightly[/p][/quote]The new bin will take a lot of stuff that currently goes into the general waste bin: plastic, cartons and metals. That should hugely reduce the amount of waste going into the general bin. miketually

10:56am Wed 8 Jan 14

harry2 says...

People with back alleys who will be given boxes instead of the second wheelie bin , should be given the choice of the second wheelie bin ans they are responsible to take the bin to the end of alley for collection, because I'm not happy why should I have 2 big boxes in my house full of rubbish.
People with back alleys who will be given boxes instead of the second wheelie bin , should be given the choice of the second wheelie bin ans they are responsible to take the bin to the end of alley for collection, because I'm not happy why should I have 2 big boxes in my house full of rubbish. harry2

12:17pm Wed 8 Jan 14

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

I expect every penny of this apparent 400 grand saving to be passed on to council tax payers. The reduction per anum may be small but it's our money NOT theirs and every penny counts.

I will expect a letter advising how much my bill will be reduced by next year.
I expect every penny of this apparent 400 grand saving to be passed on to council tax payers. The reduction per anum may be small but it's our money NOT theirs and every penny counts. I will expect a letter advising how much my bill will be reduced by next year. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth

12:22pm Wed 8 Jan 14

BMD says...

Councillor Heather Scott, questioned whether people had the time or inclination to separate and clean their rubbish before putting it in the correct recycling bin. “If we cannot even get them to put the wheelie bins in the right place, how on earth are we going to get them to wash things so that they can be recycled.”

I am afraid Heather is correct, why bother recycling when the Council dump it in the land-fill.
Councillor Heather Scott, questioned whether people had the time or inclination to separate and clean their rubbish before putting it in the correct recycling bin. “If we cannot even get them to put the wheelie bins in the right place, how on earth are we going to get them to wash things so that they can be recycled.” I am afraid Heather is correct, why bother recycling when the Council dump it in the land-fill. BMD

2:06pm Wed 8 Jan 14

giggitty says...

thetruththewholetrut
handnothingbutthetru
th
wrote:
I expect every penny of this apparent 400 grand saving to be passed on to council tax payers. The reduction per anum may be small but it's our money NOT theirs and every penny counts. I will expect a letter advising how much my bill will be reduced by next year.
(Assuming your comment isn’t facetious)

No, why would they do that?
The savings will go towards the savings the council has to make as a whole, £20m or whatever it is this week.

If they gave it back to us they’d be back to square one!
[quote][p][bold]thetruththewholetrut handnothingbutthetru th[/bold] wrote: I expect every penny of this apparent 400 grand saving to be passed on to council tax payers. The reduction per anum may be small but it's our money NOT theirs and every penny counts. I will expect a letter advising how much my bill will be reduced by next year.[/p][/quote](Assuming your comment isn’t facetious) No, why would they do that? The savings will go towards the savings the council has to make as a whole, £20m or whatever it is this week. If they gave it back to us they’d be back to square one! giggitty

2:14pm Wed 8 Jan 14

giggitty says...

BMD wrote:
Councillor Heather Scott, questioned whether people had the time or inclination to separate and clean their rubbish before putting it in the correct recycling bin. “If we cannot even get them to put the wheelie bins in the right place, how on earth are we going to get them to wash things so that they can be recycled.” I am afraid Heather is correct, why bother recycling when the Council dump it in the land-fill.
I know what she means. After all, its so so difficult deciding which of the 3 containers to put the glass in.......... however will we manage!

As for the washing of that tin............. Do they not think I’ve enough washing up to do!?

(For point of clarity - I am being facetious!)
[quote][p][bold]BMD[/bold] wrote: Councillor Heather Scott, questioned whether people had the time or inclination to separate and clean their rubbish before putting it in the correct recycling bin. “If we cannot even get them to put the wheelie bins in the right place, how on earth are we going to get them to wash things so that they can be recycled.” I am afraid Heather is correct, why bother recycling when the Council dump it in the land-fill.[/p][/quote]I know what she means. After all, its so so difficult deciding which of the 3 containers to put the glass in.......... however will we manage! As for the washing of that tin............. Do they not think I’ve enough washing up to do!? (For point of clarity - I am being facetious!) giggitty

2:21pm Wed 8 Jan 14

giggitty says...

miketually wrote:
grandmab wrote: Still no provision to recycle compostable waste. Those of us without cars or gardens cannot home compost so in the bin it goes.
That is a shame. I've seen schemes to collect compostable waste set up by local groups; I wonder if there's anyone interested in Darlington?
Mike, Are you really suggesting people get off their derrière and do something for themselves? How dare you!

Do you not know how much tax I pay?……… the world owes me a living you know! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grandmab[/bold] wrote: Still no provision to recycle compostable waste. Those of us without cars or gardens cannot home compost so in the bin it goes.[/p][/quote]That is a shame. I've seen schemes to collect compostable waste set up by local groups; I wonder if there's anyone interested in Darlington?[/p][/quote]Mike, Are you really suggesting people get off their derrière and do something for themselves? How dare you! Do you not know how much tax I pay?……… the world owes me a living you know! ;-) giggitty

5:10pm Wed 8 Jan 14

theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes says...

giggitty wrote:
miketually wrote:
grandmab wrote: Still no provision to recycle compostable waste. Those of us without cars or gardens cannot home compost so in the bin it goes.
That is a shame. I've seen schemes to collect compostable waste set up by local groups; I wonder if there's anyone interested in Darlington?
Mike, Are you really suggesting people get off their derrière and do something for themselves? How dare you!

Do you not know how much tax I pay?……… the world owes me a living you know! ;-)
You do realise that every post NOT calling for Bill Dixon and the rest of the council to be paraded down High Row tarred and feathered before being fed to the hounds results in lots of thumbs down votes. Best not to make any free thinking or contentious comments or you will be chastised and given a negative score. The mob is fickle brother.
[quote][p][bold]giggitty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grandmab[/bold] wrote: Still no provision to recycle compostable waste. Those of us without cars or gardens cannot home compost so in the bin it goes.[/p][/quote]That is a shame. I've seen schemes to collect compostable waste set up by local groups; I wonder if there's anyone interested in Darlington?[/p][/quote]Mike, Are you really suggesting people get off their derrière and do something for themselves? How dare you! Do you not know how much tax I pay?……… the world owes me a living you know! ;-)[/p][/quote]You do realise that every post NOT calling for Bill Dixon and the rest of the council to be paraded down High Row tarred and feathered before being fed to the hounds results in lots of thumbs down votes. Best not to make any free thinking or contentious comments or you will be chastised and given a negative score. The mob is fickle brother. theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes

5:14pm Wed 8 Jan 14

harry2 says...

Wonder how many more. Times we are going to hear about these bins between now and oct ??
Wonder how many more. Times we are going to hear about these bins between now and oct ?? harry2

5:27pm Wed 8 Jan 14

miketually says...

harry2 wrote:
Wonder how many more. Times we are going to hear about these bins between now and oct ??
Sadly, probably far too often. Anyone would think compulsory branding had been introduced.

I suspect their introduction will be fraught with as many problems as the previous bin rollout: there will be some issues in some areas, but most people will quite like the new system.

Ironically, it's the same system that Darlington Friends of the Earth were calling for a few years ago, when the metals and plastics were moved out of the kerbside box, but were told wasn't as good or as efficient as sorting by Wades at Aycliffe Quarry :)
[quote][p][bold]harry2[/bold] wrote: Wonder how many more. Times we are going to hear about these bins between now and oct ??[/p][/quote]Sadly, probably far too often. Anyone would think compulsory branding had been introduced. I suspect their introduction will be fraught with as many problems as the previous bin rollout: there will be some issues in some areas, but most people will quite like the new system. Ironically, it's the same system that Darlington Friends of the Earth were calling for a few years ago, when the metals and plastics were moved out of the kerbside box, but were told wasn't as good or as efficient as sorting by Wades at Aycliffe Quarry :) miketually

7:31pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Jackaranda says...

tabby67 wrote:
its about time we had a garden waste bin!
I would recycle much more if i could some places even recycle by having a small food bin !

we are way behind the rest of the country shame council didn't forward plan and give us all a larger bin, i do recycle and i don't think i will get everything in when it goes fortnightly
There will be a third bin on the way, for garden rubbish!!
[quote][p][bold]tabby67[/bold] wrote: its about time we had a garden waste bin! I would recycle much more if i could some places even recycle by having a small food bin ! we are way behind the rest of the country shame council didn't forward plan and give us all a larger bin, i do recycle and i don't think i will get everything in when it goes fortnightly[/p][/quote]There will be a third bin on the way, for garden rubbish!! Jackaranda

7:33pm Wed 8 Jan 14

oliviaden6 says...

Certain people are calling for a GARDEN BIN, is all i will say where these have been provided by other councils around the country the council have slapped a excess charge of around £40 pounds a year. Are we not paying enough to these bandits?
Certain people are calling for a GARDEN BIN, is all i will say where these have been provided by other councils around the country the council have slapped a excess charge of around £40 pounds a year. Are we not paying enough to these bandits? oliviaden6

8:25pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

theartistformallykno
wnasoutragedofmilton
keynes
wrote:
giggitty wrote:
miketually wrote:
grandmab wrote: Still no provision to recycle compostable waste. Those of us without cars or gardens cannot home compost so in the bin it goes.
That is a shame. I've seen schemes to collect compostable waste set up by local groups; I wonder if there's anyone interested in Darlington?
Mike, Are you really suggesting people get off their derrière and do something for themselves? How dare you!

Do you not know how much tax I pay?……… the world owes me a living you know! ;-)
You do realise that every post NOT calling for Bill Dixon and the rest of the council to be paraded down High Row tarred and feathered before being fed to the hounds results in lots of thumbs down votes. Best not to make any free thinking or contentious comments or you will be chastised and given a negative score. The mob is fickle brother.
I think the thumbs down reflect the fact that they are more akin to insult aimed against people who do not agree with his point of view rather than an attempt to make a serious point of discussion

You pay council tax and expect an efficient well run service, You think it is value for money. Others do not. Insults and abuse do not help.
[quote][p][bold]theartistformallykno wnasoutragedofmilton keynes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]giggitty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grandmab[/bold] wrote: Still no provision to recycle compostable waste. Those of us without cars or gardens cannot home compost so in the bin it goes.[/p][/quote]That is a shame. I've seen schemes to collect compostable waste set up by local groups; I wonder if there's anyone interested in Darlington?[/p][/quote]Mike, Are you really suggesting people get off their derrière and do something for themselves? How dare you! Do you not know how much tax I pay?……… the world owes me a living you know! ;-)[/p][/quote]You do realise that every post NOT calling for Bill Dixon and the rest of the council to be paraded down High Row tarred and feathered before being fed to the hounds results in lots of thumbs down votes. Best not to make any free thinking or contentious comments or you will be chastised and given a negative score. The mob is fickle brother.[/p][/quote]I think the thumbs down reflect the fact that they are more akin to insult aimed against people who do not agree with his point of view rather than an attempt to make a serious point of discussion You pay council tax and expect an efficient well run service, You think it is value for money. Others do not. Insults and abuse do not help. Homshaw1

9:44pm Wed 8 Jan 14

theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes says...

Im confused by that comment. It doesnt appear to make any sense?
Im confused by that comment. It doesnt appear to make any sense? theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes

9:05pm Thu 9 Jan 14

winner1949 says...

I just wish the council would come clean about wheelie bins and tell the truth last year when the bins were distributed there was in excess of between 3 and 5 thousand extra bins in vicarage road which are now hidden in the shed which houses the grit wagons should be, and the gritters left out to a severe frost could be serious and a danger to gritting not taking place
I just wish the council would come clean about wheelie bins and tell the truth last year when the bins were distributed there was in excess of between 3 and 5 thousand extra bins in vicarage road which are now hidden in the shed which houses the grit wagons should be, and the gritters left out to a severe frost could be serious and a danger to gritting not taking place winner1949

9:18pm Thu 9 Jan 14

winner1949 says...

I would like someone to come forward and tell the truth about the wheelie bin situation about 3 to 5 thousand bins were over ordered when the bins were ordered last year and are now hidden in the shed were the gritter wagons should be, these gritters could be in danger under a sever frost.according to the council have done a survey about extra bins but I believe it should belooked into further
w winfield
I would like someone to come forward and tell the truth about the wheelie bin situation about 3 to 5 thousand bins were over ordered when the bins were ordered last year and are now hidden in the shed were the gritter wagons should be, these gritters could be in danger under a sever frost.according to the council have done a survey about extra bins but I believe it should belooked into further w winfield winner1949

4:33pm Sat 11 Jan 14

BMD says...

I have a 2 bed holiday apartment abroad and there is lift access to a communal rubbish collection point in the underground car-park. The bins are separated into recyclables by the complex staff, every day (including Sundays) the waste collection wagon arrives at 11:00 am and removes all on-site waste.

A specialist company cleans the swimming pool every week, there is an on-site gardening team, whom work 5 days a week, window cleaning service once a month, 24 hour security guards / CCTV and a small army of cleaners to ensure the gym, sauna and common areas are cleaned twice a day.

All for only £690 maintenance a year, Darlington council value for money – you’re having a laugh!
I have a 2 bed holiday apartment abroad and there is lift access to a communal rubbish collection point in the underground car-park. The bins are separated into recyclables by the complex staff, every day (including Sundays) the waste collection wagon arrives at 11:00 am and removes all on-site waste. A specialist company cleans the swimming pool every week, there is an on-site gardening team, whom work 5 days a week, window cleaning service once a month, 24 hour security guards / CCTV and a small army of cleaners to ensure the gym, sauna and common areas are cleaned twice a day. All for only £690 maintenance a year, Darlington council value for money – you’re having a laugh! BMD

7:01pm Sat 11 Jan 14

sineater says...

Winner , The bins are not hidden,they are spares you muppet,to replace damaged bins.
Winner , The bins are not hidden,they are spares you muppet,to replace damaged bins. sineater

10:07am Sun 12 Jan 14

onionseller says...

I'll have to get the incinerator ready for action.
Its brill for disposing of the stuff that won't fit in the bin because its full after 5 days. .
I'll have to get the incinerator ready for action. Its brill for disposing of the stuff that won't fit in the bin because its full after 5 days. . onionseller

10:34am Sun 12 Jan 14

miketually says...

BMD wrote:
I have a 2 bed holiday apartment abroad and there is lift access to a communal rubbish collection point in the underground car-park. The bins are separated into recyclables by the complex staff, every day (including Sundays) the waste collection wagon arrives at 11:00 am and removes all on-site waste.

A specialist company cleans the swimming pool every week, there is an on-site gardening team, whom work 5 days a week, window cleaning service once a month, 24 hour security guards / CCTV and a small army of cleaners to ensure the gym, sauna and common areas are cleaned twice a day.

All for only £690 maintenance a year, Darlington council value for money – you’re having a laugh!
And how many old people are cared for and roads resurfaced and schools funded and everything else that the council does?
[quote][p][bold]BMD[/bold] wrote: I have a 2 bed holiday apartment abroad and there is lift access to a communal rubbish collection point in the underground car-park. The bins are separated into recyclables by the complex staff, every day (including Sundays) the waste collection wagon arrives at 11:00 am and removes all on-site waste. A specialist company cleans the swimming pool every week, there is an on-site gardening team, whom work 5 days a week, window cleaning service once a month, 24 hour security guards / CCTV and a small army of cleaners to ensure the gym, sauna and common areas are cleaned twice a day. All for only £690 maintenance a year, Darlington council value for money – you’re having a laugh![/p][/quote]And how many old people are cared for and roads resurfaced and schools funded and everything else that the council does? miketually

11:47am Sun 12 Jan 14

BMD says...

miketually wrote:
BMD wrote: I have a 2 bed holiday apartment abroad and there is lift access to a communal rubbish collection point in the underground car-park. The bins are separated into recyclables by the complex staff, every day (including Sundays) the waste collection wagon arrives at 11:00 am and removes all on-site waste. A specialist company cleans the swimming pool every week, there is an on-site gardening team, whom work 5 days a week, window cleaning service once a month, 24 hour security guards / CCTV and a small army of cleaners to ensure the gym, sauna and common areas are cleaned twice a day. All for only £690 maintenance a year, Darlington council value for money – you’re having a laugh!
And how many old people are cared for and roads resurfaced and schools funded and everything else that the council does?
That is why I pay a private pension, private medical care and pay local tax (VAT), so I won’t be a burden on the local community. The local government use the local tax (VAT) to contribute for the elderly, plus 15% of the apartment maintenance fee goes direct to local Government funding.

The roads are all concrete with very little wear and tear. The climate is always warm, so there is no damage from ice, frost or snow. I would estimate a road would have a 25 year lifespan before any remedial work would be required.

The schools are funded by the local Government, but they are a little basic to UK standards, it is preferable to send the children to a private English school, as the English language opens many more doors to a better career. The schools day starts at 8:00 am and finishes at 16:30 pm for 5 days per week and there are no teacher training days. The local Government school is 10 minutes’ walk from my apartment, all the children are dressed immaculately in school uniform (no trendy designer clothes) all are taught very good manners and respect for their elders.

Where did the UK go wrong? – Ahhh!!! - “Benefit Street”, immigration and a Labour Government.
[quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BMD[/bold] wrote: I have a 2 bed holiday apartment abroad and there is lift access to a communal rubbish collection point in the underground car-park. The bins are separated into recyclables by the complex staff, every day (including Sundays) the waste collection wagon arrives at 11:00 am and removes all on-site waste. A specialist company cleans the swimming pool every week, there is an on-site gardening team, whom work 5 days a week, window cleaning service once a month, 24 hour security guards / CCTV and a small army of cleaners to ensure the gym, sauna and common areas are cleaned twice a day. All for only £690 maintenance a year, Darlington council value for money – you’re having a laugh![/p][/quote]And how many old people are cared for and roads resurfaced and schools funded and everything else that the council does?[/p][/quote]That is why I pay a private pension, private medical care and pay local tax (VAT), so I won’t be a burden on the local community. The local government use the local tax (VAT) to contribute for the elderly, plus 15% of the apartment maintenance fee goes direct to local Government funding. The roads are all concrete with very little wear and tear. The climate is always warm, so there is no damage from ice, frost or snow. I would estimate a road would have a 25 year lifespan before any remedial work would be required. The schools are funded by the local Government, but they are a little basic to UK standards, it is preferable to send the children to a private English school, as the English language opens many more doors to a better career. The schools day starts at 8:00 am and finishes at 16:30 pm for 5 days per week and there are no teacher training days. The local Government school is 10 minutes’ walk from my apartment, all the children are dressed immaculately in school uniform (no trendy designer clothes) all are taught very good manners and respect for their elders. Where did the UK go wrong? – Ahhh!!! - “Benefit Street”, immigration and a Labour Government. BMD

9:37am Mon 13 Jan 14

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

sineater wrote:
Winner , The bins are not hidden,they are spares you muppet,to replace damaged bins.
3-5 thousand bins for spare parts?

I think you're the muppet for making such a ridiculous statement.
[quote][p][bold]sineater[/bold] wrote: Winner , The bins are not hidden,they are spares you muppet,to replace damaged bins.[/p][/quote]3-5 thousand bins for spare parts? I think you're the muppet for making such a ridiculous statement. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth

1:14pm Mon 13 Jan 14

miketually says...

thetruththewholetrut
handnothingbutthetru
th
wrote:
sineater wrote:
Winner , The bins are not hidden,they are spares you muppet,to replace damaged bins.
3-5 thousand bins for spare parts?

I think you're the muppet for making such a ridiculous statement.
That's 5% as spares, which does seem a lot.

Although, it might be much cheaper to order 5 years worth of spares along with the original order so, if one bin in a hundred goes missing each year, they can be replaced for no additional cost? That seems more reasonable.
[quote][p][bold]thetruththewholetrut handnothingbutthetru th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sineater[/bold] wrote: Winner , The bins are not hidden,they are spares you muppet,to replace damaged bins.[/p][/quote]3-5 thousand bins for spare parts? I think you're the muppet for making such a ridiculous statement.[/p][/quote]That's 5% as spares, which does seem a lot. Although, it might be much cheaper to order 5 years worth of spares along with the original order so, if one bin in a hundred goes missing each year, they can be replaced for no additional cost? That seems more reasonable. miketually

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