Heighington villagers vote to pool funds to fight legal cost of fighting Gypsy site plans

8:56pm Tuesday 12th March 2013 in News By Joanna Morris

VILLAGERS are pooling their money to fight plans to build a Gypsy site near their homes.

Residents of Heighington, near Darlington, voted unanimously at a public meeting tonight (Tuesday, March 12) in favour of collecting money from householders to fund the legal costs of their battle against the scheme.

Sharon Marshall, chair of the meeting, estimated that the community could face costs of around £4,000. A suggested donation of £10 per household was put to those at the packed meeting at St Michael’s Church.

Money raised will be used to battle controversial plans to convert two nearby fields into a private Gypsy site. Any cash left over will be donated to the village hall.

Mrs Marshall said: “You are spending your time here tonight. Let’s follow up your time with being willing to spend some money.

“There is no guarantee that we can change the course of action but if we do not try, we will never know. If this goes through, this will be there for the rest of history.”

Hundreds of objections have already been lodged with Darlington Borough Council over proposals to convert the fields in Walworth Road for two mobile homes, two touring caravans, two amenity buildings, a septic tank and an access road.

Mrs Marshall reminded residents that objections made should be on the grounds of material planning concerns and not personal feelings.

She added: “Object if you believe our community is worth preserving and our countryside is worth preserving for all to enjoy.

"Heighington is quite an inclusive community and we welcome everybody but we all have to abide by the law. There are rules set down by the town council about what is appropriate building work and what is not.”

A steering group has also been set up by residents. The group will take charge of all decision making and research on behalf of the local community and has pledged to report their findings promptly.

Villagers were urged to attend a planning meeting to discuss the proposals on Wednesday April 10 at 1.30pm.

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Apples&pears says...
9:52pm Tue 12 Mar 13

Keep your hard earned money in your pockets fighting a lost cause I'm afraid against a council who have little idea.

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100%Darlington says...
10:25pm Tue 12 Mar 13

Hadn't realised Heighington was such an inclusive community, people should remember where they come from, don't see a problem with a private gypsy site, social inclusion and all that!

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Jolly Roger says...
10:26pm Tue 12 Mar 13

Why should other areas have these sites and not you another case of NIMBY's.

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John Justice says...
6:31am Wed 13 Mar 13

There is absolutely nothing wrong with residents trying to maintain the type of community they have built up over a very long time. Heighington have been recognised nationally for the community spirit they have worked hard at to achieve. While most people believe (with some justification) that no one wants travellers in their back yard people can still object to this development based on arguments based on law. It seems that many , including some of the comments already made in this and other posts do not believe that people can object for any reason, legal or not. That smells of an undemocratic society. No mention is made by these sarcastic commentators of the many times "Travellers" around the country have imposed themselves on unsuspecting communities by moving in illegally and developing sites against, and without planning applications. This community will be changed if this application goes ahead, that is obvious, they should have the support of all law abiding communities and people to use the laws to object to this development.

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hottopic says...
6:42am Wed 13 Mar 13

Regardless of of the reason, its good to see a community coming together, if a community votes unanimously on an issue then it means it is an issue and isn't simply a case of NIMBY but may show a community with some aforethought to attempt nip a possible future problem (in there eyes) in the bud. Lets please bear in mind that this is the Echo, so this story may have been mis-reported to meet what the paper thinks is news and to stir up trouble.

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freelance says...
7:24am Wed 13 Mar 13

The report states - VILLAGERS ARE pooling their money to fight plans to build a Gypsy site near their homes -

- have they?/will they?

The report states - A suggested donation of £10 per household was put to those at the packed meeting

-a suggestion no more!

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fergus_the_dog says...
7:26am Wed 13 Mar 13

Why can't the acres of land / empty buildings on the Aycliffe Industrial park, be considered for this purpose.

It would also have good links to the motorway etc making the coming and going of the travellers in their caravans less of a congestion problem.

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theWorkerScum says...
8:05am Wed 13 Mar 13

Hopefully the plans will go ahead so they can share the burden like all the other villages in duham. I think they should also give some money to the gypsies to say sorry for not wanting them.

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andi_darlo says...
11:02am Wed 13 Mar 13

i believe the acronym NIMBY is used for Not In My Back Yard is it not ?

well in my case and many others this simply is not true, its not a case of not in my back yard its a case of not at all !

Until these sections of the "community" start to contribute to society and observe the laws of the land then we should not provide settlements anywhere for them !

This may seem like a sweeping generalization, however i can only go from personal experience and that is the fact that the majority of these people are not paying taxes are not paying national insurance do not tax their vehicles have no insurance and use alternative sources for their fuel which avoid taxes !

Whether travelers or not, anyone doing this and not making a contribution to society should not be given prime green spaces across the country to place their homes.

If they can demonstrate they earn an honest living, pay their taxes and make a contribution then they can purchase their land the same way any of us would have to if we wanted to buy a plot of prime land to put our home on, the honest way !

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neninja says...
11:53am Wed 13 Mar 13

The issue about the fact that this is a prominent green field site that can be seen from over a mile away from various different locations. If you or I applied to extensively develop this location with 4 static caravans, 4 amenity blocks and 4 touring caravans, it wouldn't be given the time of day. Once the site is there it will be there forever on what was once open countryside with a public footpath across it. There are far more suitable locations that don't destroy our open fields.

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vercingetorix says...
12:04pm Wed 13 Mar 13

do you know what happens when a gypsy site like the one propsed takes root....well in one community down South, all the local children had to leave the primary school through intimidation....and now only the gypsy children attend...the board of governors at that school are now all gypsies. Their reputaion is entirely deserved and I wish the local community good luck and success in their efforts. One gypsy family near me terrorized the estate of predominantly handicapped and elderly where I live, and despite being reported by 20% of the local population, they blatantly defrauded the DWP out of hundreds of thousands of pounds by not notifying cohabitation...they are untouchable !....dont let them take root in your community....and this applies to whoever reads this

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swissball says...
12:05pm Wed 13 Mar 13

Once they are established you will NEVER get grid of them, think about that for a moment, they will blight your way of life forever - you have been warned!!

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theWorkerScum says...
12:48pm Wed 13 Mar 13

We all know the effects of gypsies but it would be funny if a nice place like heighington got them. Come on you can't just keep shipping em to Eldon. The school will need to hire a private tutor to cater for them, that's what happened in our area where the kids that want to learn get nothing, scary times lol. Like socialism.

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freelance says...
1:20pm Wed 13 Mar 13

A 1950's map of Heighington will show a lot of GREEN FIELDS to the west of the original village ........ it is on these GREEN FIELDS that the majority of Heighington's population lives.

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Homshaw1 says...
2:42pm Wed 13 Mar 13

It will be a great boost to the local economy . Pubs schools and shops will benefit

As for access - it is near the A68 with the A1 not far away

Rejoice!

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behonest says...
3:15pm Wed 13 Mar 13

Pubs and shops will benefit? Is that from over-inflated insurance claims for stolen goods?

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Homshaw1 says...
4:30pm Wed 13 Mar 13

If I were Darlington Council I would think where ever we put it the local councillor is going to get hell

Hold on, hasn't Heighington got two Conservative councillors

Happy Days

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theWorkerScum says...
9:39pm Wed 13 Mar 13

I don't think the people of Heighington are looking at the benefits. At least the dog dirt will decrease as well as scrap metal.

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clarky2697 says...
9:41pm Wed 13 Mar 13

freelance wrote:
A 1950's map of Heighington will show a lot of GREEN FIELDS to the west of the original village ........ it is on these GREEN FIELDS that the majority of Heighington's population lives.
That is irrelevant,this isn`t the 1950s and planning has changed! We used to put kids up chimneys but it wouldn`t be right today! I take it by your posts that your'e either the ex planner or the solicitor employed by the travellers for this application?
I would liken you to the klingon that hung around with the school bully for safety or a mercenary that`s got no morals other than earning money! You don`t care how many lives are affected by your easily bought expertise, just to provide two pitches in a community of 700 hundred houses! Keep on feeding from the gutter you low down rat!

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twothousand says...
3:56pm Thu 14 Mar 13

I've just come across this story, looking at the plans submitted this 'site' is over a mile from the village in question. As far as I can see the additional traffic from this site will be insignificant due to the additiional access road, not 500 yards away is already hard standing for a number of caravans towards the A1M. Most of Co Durham has a traveller community within a mile or two from it. As for earlier comments regarding Green Field sites, you only have to look in the not too distant past to see many areas in and around Heighington have had permission granted of a smaller nature such as this.

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the-big-yin says...
5:15pm Thu 14 Mar 13

neninja wrote:
The issue about the fact that this is a prominent green field site that can be seen from over a mile away from various different locations. If you or I applied to extensively develop this location with 4 static caravans, 4 amenity blocks and 4 touring caravans, it wouldn't be given the time of day. Once the site is there it will be there forever on what was once open countryside with a public footpath across it. There are far more suitable locations that don't destroy our open fields.
Well said...Although Darlington council will not listen to residents.They seem to love pandering to gypsies..Whoops ! i mean "travelers "...Look if they are travelers, then let them travel. These so called sites they are wanting to build attract nothing but trouble to local communities. Rise in theft and criminal activities. This land is green belt and should stay that way..There are plenty of other sites to put these on. Also remember there will be more than 2 families there by the time their in laws and their in laws and the other brother and his family and the family who are half related through their grandads aunty June's uncles cousins brother arrives to visit....You get the idea don-t you?

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stiv says...
8:14pm Thu 14 Mar 13

you will be better off investing in locks on your doors and cctv as you have no chance of winning with this council. heighington being a nice villiage is finished,

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Voice-of-reality says...
9:53pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Darlo want to keep jobs in darlo. Put the gypsies in the grounds of Mowden Hall and then employ the ex DfES staff as security guards.

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clarky2697 says...
10:46pm Thu 14 Mar 13

twothousand wrote:
I've just come across this story, looking at the plans submitted this 'site' is over a mile from the village in question. As far as I can see the additional traffic from this site will be insignificant due to the additiional access road, not 500 yards away is already hard standing for a number of caravans towards the A1M. Most of Co Durham has a traveller community within a mile or two from it. As for earlier comments regarding Green Field sites, you only have to look in the not too distant past to see many areas in and around Heighington have had permission granted of a smaller nature such as this.
0.8 miles from Village! Do you mean the stables? if you do, no one lives there. What dates are we talking about? These comments are very similar to the ones made by Freelance and are irrelevant, the past planning rules were entirely different! London was once a collection of villages, look at the state of that dump!

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Topcat28 says...
12:09pm Fri 15 Mar 13

No one can escape the fact that areas previously used for traveller sites are badly affected as a result. I have previously lived adjacent to a traveller site and it brought nothing but crime and pollution. These people need to start contributing towards society especially when other decent folk are going without. Best of luck Heighington but I feel your fighting a loosing battle.

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stiv says...
9:25pm Fri 15 Mar 13

give them a one way ticket home to ireland or romania, problem solved.

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Lawman3 says...
12:04am Sat 16 Mar 13

Maybe we should make them wear yellow stars on their clothes and then burn them out of their homes? Same ****, different focus of our hate. It used to be blacks, Irish, Jews, homosexuals, single mothers, asylum seekers, muslims, disability claimants, schizophrenics and teenagers.
What is being said on here is nothing that hasn't said before about other groups, and tells of a deeper malaise in our society.

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steapuk says...
12:29am Sat 16 Mar 13

Since when did anyone get to choose who their neighbours are?

Just a thought......

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Copley23 says...
1:55pm Sat 16 Mar 13

steapuk wrote:
Since when did anyone get to choose who their neighbours are?

Just a thought......
Nice thought Steapuk, you're right, we don't get to chose......just like you have absolutely no right to a view....

Problem is, these folk aren't exactly neighbourly because they don't want to be........allegedly.

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Skallywagg says...
9:24am Sun 17 Mar 13

Lawman3 wrote:
Maybe we should make them wear yellow stars on their clothes and then burn them out of their homes? Same ****, different focus of our hate. It used to be blacks, Irish, Jews, homosexuals, single mothers, asylum seekers, muslims, disability claimants, schizophrenics and teenagers. What is being said on here is nothing that hasn't said before about other groups, and tells of a deeper malaise in our society.
These people are not the same as the ones targeted by the Nazi regime, these people are cunning and quite bigoted with regard to the general population and do not want to live by the laws of our land or mix. Travellers that travel to avoid paying taxes and contributing to society.

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clarky2697 says...
2:41pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Lawman3 wrote:
Maybe we should make them wear yellow stars on their clothes and then burn them out of their homes? Same ****, different focus of our hate. It used to be blacks, Irish, Jews, homosexuals, single mothers, asylum seekers, muslims, disability claimants, schizophrenics and teenagers. What is being said on here is nothing that hasn't said before about other groups, and tells of a deeper malaise in our society.
What a load of ****.Lets look at the facts, the travellers enjoy a different planning law, which is biased in their favour, biased school placements/tutoring, biased housing, biased everything. They disregard our laws unless it can give them the upperhand, then they are more than willing to exploit it! The planning application in question can be appealed if lost by the travelers, the opponents have not got this opportunity, if they lose they will have to accept it! The travellers can view all the opposition letters online, so they can build a case, we havn`t got this luxury, biased again! These travellers are not disadvantaged, vunerable people, like they try to portray themselves, they are wealthy individuals who enjoy rubbing people up and creating confrontation! Trying to stiffle free speech by branding people facists is another biased advantage the travellers can enjoy!

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delboy1977 says...
8:16pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Whats a "Mobile Home" is this not the same as a touring caravan ?? i think the council needs to elaborate on this ! in America they move 6 bedroom 3 story houses on trucks thats what they class as mobile homes !! surely this should be 4 touring caravans ! I am amazed at how much money they have ! they have obviously bought the land ?

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delboy1977 says...
8:36pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Pointless trying to stop it, you will be part of Darlington one day when they start building on the green belt land thats not supposed to be built on ! we are edging closer to the A1 every day its only a matter of time and you will be just like Cockerton village

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outragedofmiltonkeynes says...
10:11pm Mon 18 Mar 13

The good people of Heighington would be better off spending their money on a fkin big bomb to drop on the caravan dwelling scum. And before any right on live and let live types jump in who havent got any first hand knowledge of these horrible inbred scum balls, go and walk among them and see of you still have the same opinion. Big fat diddycoy weddings may be quaint but its nowt like real life.

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traceyc25 says...
1:10pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Have any of u actually read the article? The plan is for 2 static & 2 caravan this being 4 plots! Which will more than likely be occupied by 1 traveller family there is no mention of any transit plots so no coming and going of travellers just a small plot for a family to settle!! I'm sure if this family wa to build a house in this site there wouldn't be hardly asana objects! But because this family choose to live in caravans & chalets then there met with nothing but negative response!! Shame on yourselves tarring everyone with the same brush! Not all gypsies are thieves or trouble causers but i no it's difficult for all u narrow minded people to get your heads round this obviously!! There's good & bad in all walks of life

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giggitty says...
3:40pm Tue 19 Mar 13

traceyc25 wrote:
Have any of u actually read the article? The plan is for 2 static & 2 caravan this being 4 plots! Which will more than likely be occupied by 1 traveller family there is no mention of any transit plots so no coming and going of travellers just a small plot for a family to settle!! I'm sure if this family wa to build a house in this site there wouldn't be hardly asana objects! But because this family choose to live in caravans & chalets then there met with nothing but negative response!! Shame on yourselves tarring everyone with the same brush! Not all gypsies are thieves or trouble causers but i no it's difficult for all u narrow minded people to get your heads round this obviously!! There's good & bad in all walks of life
Boooooooo!

That’s better..............
..you should have woken up and be living in the real world now!

Do you really believe what you’re saying!? It’s only the very tip of the iceberg! Once in it’ll be like Dale Farm all over again!

They do nothing but blight society!

Good on ya H’ton, Fight it all the way! I’ll be there at your fund raising events. (Mind you I’m sure the £4k to some of them up there is pocket money – irrelevant I know!)

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traceyc25 says...
3:58pm Tue 19 Mar 13

giggitty wrote:
traceyc25 wrote: Have any of u actually read the article? The plan is for 2 static & 2 caravan this being 4 plots! Which will more than likely be occupied by 1 traveller family there is no mention of any transit plots so no coming and going of travellers just a small plot for a family to settle!! I'm sure if this family wa to build a house in this site there wouldn't be hardly asana objects! But because this family choose to live in caravans & chalets then there met with nothing but negative response!! Shame on yourselves tarring everyone with the same brush! Not all gypsies are thieves or trouble causers but i no it's difficult for all u narrow minded people to get your heads round this obviously!! There's good & bad in all walks of life
Boooooooo! That’s better.............. ..you should have woken up and be living in the real world now! Do you really believe what you’re saying!? It’s only the very tip of the iceberg! Once in it’ll be like Dale Farm all over again! They do nothing but blight society! Good on ya H’ton, Fight it all the way! I’ll be there at your fund raising events. (Mind you I’m sure the £4k to some of them up there is pocket money – irrelevant I know!)
Yes I do and u might ask why?? Well because my mother lives on a traveller site in the town (although she isn't a traveller) and i can honestly say until u have lived amongst these people u have no right commenting on how they live there lives!! Think ur all forgetting these are HUMAN beings and have HUMAN rights and also have the right to live like they have done for many many years!! Also might I add have any of u actually stepped foot on a traveller site?? Probably not! Well I'll let u no now they aren't the untidy smelly rat infested places u all think they are, infact there a dam site cleaner than most estates in this town! So I think if anyone needs to start living in the real world giggitty it you

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giggitty says...
4:28pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Okay, Okay.......you're right and the rest of the world are wrong!

When these scum start treating other humans with REPECT that’s when they will get RESPECT back.

I’ve only ever had bad dealings with them. I really can’t be bothered to give examples after examples, suffice to say, all they do is take take take from society and give absolutely nothing back!

They are the lowest of the low........... parasites, plain and simple.

BOOOOOO! Woke up yet?

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traceyc25 says...
4:38pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Respect?? Perhaps if you should them some respect then they would in return?? Works both ways where travellers, or not!! Clearly your parents never taught u about respect & manners! And also if u re-read all the comments I'm not the only one for the site! This is a small site planned for a small family nothing like the scale of any of the sites in the town and as for it just being the start of things to come that's b*****ks planning permission to extend an established site is much harder to gain than planning for the original site! They'll be clauses to the permissions! Also again to correct u travellers do give back to the community they pay council tax & water rates like everyone else they shop in local shops drink in local pubs which can only be a good thing for the village maybe the dog pub wud stay open longer than a month once the travellers have moved in eh!!??

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outragedofmiltonkeynes says...
5:44pm Tue 19 Mar 13

A site for a family to settle? I thought they were travellers?

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traceyc25 says...
7:13pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Alot of travellers don't 'travel' anymore due to there being no where for them to stay or short periods of time also alot of travellers want to settle on one place for a 'quieter life' everything u see on the tele (big fat gypsy weddings) and in the paper is mostly fabricated

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clarky2697 says...
9:28pm Tue 19 Mar 13

How these travellers conduct themselves, no matter what the outcome, is the way a lot of people will judge them. If they lose, and there are no cowardly, underhand attacks or dog poisoning, then the majority will be proven wrong!
If they win and live in the community with consideration and respect, then the majority is also proven wrong!
This is the ideal opportunity for the travellers and they would be fools not to take it. I agree there are good and bad in every walk of life, maybe the good travellers need to reign in the bad ones, as these are the people that are getting them all tarred with the same brush!

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giggitty says...
11:25pm Tue 19 Mar 13

traceyc25 wrote:
Respect?? Perhaps if you should them some respect then they would in return?? Works both ways where travellers, or not!! Clearly your parents never taught u about respect & manners! And also if u re-read all the comments I'm not the only one for the site! This is a small site planned for a small family nothing like the scale of any of the sites in the town and as for it just being the start of things to come that's b*****ks planning permission to extend an established site is much harder to gain than planning for the original site! They'll be clauses to the permissions! Also again to correct u travellers do give back to the community they pay council tax & water rates like everyone else they shop in local shops drink in local pubs which can only be a good thing for the village maybe the dog pub wud stay open longer than a month once the travellers have moved in eh!!??
Are you sure we're living on the same planet?

Would these clauses and permissions be the same protection afforded to Dale Farm?
Oh yes, and looked what happened there! Give these "people" an inch they take a mile.

They don’t know the meaning of social duty never mind pay for it, unless you mean they pay for from the bullying, harassment and thieving off the vulnerable of course! What’s the latest scam..............ma
ttresses!?

Its definitely time for you to smell that coffee!

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traceyc25 says...
11:45pm Tue 19 Mar 13

I seriously don't no who you think u are what gives you the right to discriminate against a culture just beause your had bad deals with a select few in the past!! Nothing but narrow minded ignorance, dale farm has nothing whatsoever to do with this I think you should maybe take a walk round honeypot lane an see how civilised & respectable travellers are, may I also remind you that at the council meeting that took place of all the 200+ objections to the camp only a mere 3 were valid objections!! It's obvious u have a rather large grudge against the travellers but if u tret ethnic minorities in this manner u would be branded racist ur manner disgusts me and u are nothing more than a keyboard warrior

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giggitty says...
6:48pm Wed 20 Mar 13

I know who I am, I am law abiding citizen who has never been in trouble with the police in any way shape or form who is / has been blighted both mentally an physically by these so called humans you prevail to protect, and yes I can discriminate based on real life happenings to myself, family and friends. But I’m not discriminating against a “culture” as you put it, stick to your Appleby fairs, I’m not bothered. I’m discriminating on the effect of that culture has upon everyone else and lack of input back to society. If they got on with life without significant effect on the majority then fine, I’d have no gripe. But they don’t.

Would this be the same honeypot lane that junctions onto Whessoe Rd? (Don’t worry that’s a rhetorical question). Where they can’t even abide by simple traffic laws that say “give way”! Guess what, they don’t. The vast majority just pull out in front of you in their white mattress emblazoned ford transits causing the other drivers to take evasive action. Would this be the same junction they turn into after driving all the way done Albert Hill on the wrong side of the road forcing oncoming traffic in rush hour to also take evasive action? Yes they really are civilised and respectable aren't they!?

May I also remind YOU that there was over 200 people (not objections) gathered at the council meeting, where the next available course of action was considered, it wasn’t a forum for official objections! So stop making things up.

Ahh…………. The good old racist argument eh? If in doubt call them a racist! Of course you’re slightly cuter than others who lose the argument, because you only infer racism. I’ll treat this with the contempt it deserves.

I couldn’t care less whether I disgust you or not, but that’s not my intention. At least I live in the real world!

Keyboard Warrior? Isn’t that what forums are for? Typing your opinions on a keyboard? But because mine are different to yours then I must be a racist or a keyboard warrior!? If your experiences are completely contradictory to mine, fine. But don’t you sit there and bang on about how wrong I must be. There are thousands and thousands of people up and down the county who could back my opinions.

If you love them so much, have them in your back garden. I categorically would not want them in mine

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traceyc25 says...
6:58pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Have them in back garden? Yes I would ironically I rent my house off a law abiding, Tax paying, working travellers and no they don't sell mattress or beds as u refer to above, again another example of how u stereotype the traveller community! And also like u there will be thousand upon thousands who will agree with what I'm saying, I hope u realise ur last comment is extremely slanderous,
This is obviously how u like to spead ur time arguing with anyone and everyone on here as I've noticed you've negatively commented on alot of articles in here! I think it's you huni that needs to get a life or perhaps a man!!

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giggitty says...
8:20pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Good luck, well done, I’m pleased for you. If there in your back garden they're not in mine.

I don’t want travellers in my back garden, and that’s slanderous! eh? You definitely need that caffeine hit to wake you up don’t you?

I hardly ever comment on here! So there’s more tripe you're splurging!

As for getting a life, it wasn’t me waiting for a forum post to be posted and immediately reply. 10mins to read my drivel and you to write yours, you must have been so excited! Oooo oooo oooo someone replied!

So come on darling…………
…. get it right! Your the keyboard warrior who needs to get rabbit!

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clarky2697 says...
7:42am Tue 2 Apr 13

freelance wrote:
The report states - VILLAGERS ARE pooling their money to fight plans to build a Gypsy site near their homes - - have they?/will they? The report states - A suggested donation of £10 per household was put to those at the packed meeting -a suggestion no more!
£7000 has been raised by the good villagers of Heighington to fight your immoral, loophole exploiting expertise!

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