Redevelopment plans for Darlington town centre announced

First published in News Darlington and Stockton Times: Photograph of the Author by , Darlington reporter

PLANS to breathe new life into a North-East town have been unveiled today (MON, NOV 26) after months of consultation with local people.

The raft of measures to regenerate Darlington town centre and open up land to developers, including a proposal to build a new supermarket, comes days after a multi-million scheme to build a cinema and hotel complex in the Feethams area of the town was announced.

Darlington Borough Council has also confirmed that it will not be moving out of the town hall, at least in the medium term, following months of speculation about its future.

Among the proposals for the town centre’s redevelopment, to be discussed by the council’s cabinet next week, are:

- Plans for a small food supermarket on the Garden Street car park, behind Northgate;

- The replacement of Northgate roundabout with a signal junction to provide better crossing facilities for pedestrians;

- Development on Commercial Street for larger unit shops to attract retailers not already in Darlington;

- An improved layout for bus stops within the town centre, although a new bus station has been ruled out;

- Improvements and investments in the town’s Covered Market; and

- The potential further pedestrianisation of the town.

A report detailing the proposals, many of which are in the early stages and are subject to funding being found, notes that the council’s priority is to create a thriving town centre, while also protecting its historic character.

Discussing the future of the town hall, the report said there was no “overriding case” in the short to medium term to release the site for development, on the grounds that it is an accessible location for the council and its staff and that land values are low at the moment.

The council has also recognised that there is concern about the current layout of bus stops in the town but said there is no suitable land available in the town for a bus station.

Council leader Bill Dixon said: “We listened to what the people said during the consultation sessions and, where possible, we have tried to take what they wanted into account. Of course you can’t please everyone all the time.

“We feel that what we have come up with is deliverable and encompasses many of the points that people made. Times are hard but the announcement about the cinema complex has proved that we have a track record in attracting investment in the town.”

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7:28am Tue 27 Nov 12

Living in the real world says...

I thought the council had no money and are shredding jobs?
I thought the council had no money and are shredding jobs? Living in the real world
  • Score: 4

7:41am Tue 27 Nov 12

Madadrian says...

These are the morons who shut the public toilets in the market yet expect visitors to come to the town to shop
These are the morons who shut the public toilets in the market yet expect visitors to come to the town to shop Madadrian
  • Score: 10

7:44am Tue 27 Nov 12

doddy2010 says...

All good news I'm sure - depending on funding - like the Queen street redevelopment that never happened.

It's the council's policy on parking that is ruining the town centre. There used to be lots of free - 2 hour - parking around town, but it's all gone. Look at Gladstone street as an example - empty on a Saturday because of parking charges.

Bring back the free parking and maybe shoppers will come back. The problem is, that most of us are now happy to drive to Morrisons or Tesco.

Too little too late Darlington council!
All good news I'm sure - depending on funding - like the Queen street redevelopment that never happened. It's the council's policy on parking that is ruining the town centre. There used to be lots of free - 2 hour - parking around town, but it's all gone. Look at Gladstone street as an example - empty on a Saturday because of parking charges. Bring back the free parking and maybe shoppers will come back. The problem is, that most of us are now happy to drive to Morrisons or Tesco. Too little too late Darlington council! doddy2010
  • Score: 14

8:49am Tue 27 Nov 12

freelance says...

Welcome Tesco.
Welcome Tesco. freelance
  • Score: -3

9:15am Tue 27 Nov 12

moxie34th says...

Why not re-locate the Town Hall and it's gang to where Mowden Hall is , after re-furbishing the Hall ? Thereby freeing up space in the Town Centre, for a Bus Station or , and , or a supermarket. Lack of a Bus Station is a glaring ommision , to ANY Town .... leaving any and all to stand in the wind and weather, with no seating even, never mind refreshments or toilets , what a sad state of affairs to present any visitors, never mind Travellers .
Why not re-locate the Town Hall and it's gang to where Mowden Hall is , after re-furbishing the Hall ? Thereby freeing up space in the Town Centre, for a Bus Station or , and , or a supermarket. Lack of a Bus Station is a glaring ommision , to ANY Town .... leaving any and all to stand in the wind and weather, with no seating even, never mind refreshments or toilets , what a sad state of affairs to present any visitors, never mind Travellers . moxie34th
  • Score: 7

9:27am Tue 27 Nov 12

bones26 says...

doddy2010 wrote:
All good news I'm sure - depending on funding - like the Queen street redevelopment that never happened.

It's the council's policy on parking that is ruining the town centre. There used to be lots of free - 2 hour - parking around town, but it's all gone. Look at Gladstone street as an example - empty on a Saturday because of parking charges.

Bring back the free parking and maybe shoppers will come back. The problem is, that most of us are now happy to drive to Morrisons or Tesco.

Too little too late Darlington council!
you also used to be able to park for a short stay outside the hole in the wall pub and along the road towards the telephone box without getting a parking ticket off the several parking wardens that suddenly turn up and meet for a sit down and natter on the bench opposite the c.a.b office .why dont the council just put yellow lines down instead of the confusing sings on lamposts ,oh i know why so they can trap an unsuspecting visitor coming shopping in the town centre and slap a parking ticket on there car,KERRCHING KERRCHING
[quote][p][bold]doddy2010[/bold] wrote: All good news I'm sure - depending on funding - like the Queen street redevelopment that never happened. It's the council's policy on parking that is ruining the town centre. There used to be lots of free - 2 hour - parking around town, but it's all gone. Look at Gladstone street as an example - empty on a Saturday because of parking charges. Bring back the free parking and maybe shoppers will come back. The problem is, that most of us are now happy to drive to Morrisons or Tesco. Too little too late Darlington council![/p][/quote]you also used to be able to park for a short stay outside the hole in the wall pub and along the road towards the telephone box without getting a parking ticket off the several parking wardens that suddenly turn up and meet for a sit down and natter on the bench opposite the c.a.b office .why dont the council just put yellow lines down instead of the confusing sings on lamposts ,oh i know why so they can trap an unsuspecting visitor coming shopping in the town centre and slap a parking ticket on there car,KERRCHING KERRCHING bones26
  • Score: 6

9:32am Tue 27 Nov 12

Mr A says...

I read this with interest and as far as I am concerned I voted with my wallet some time ago when they stopped the free parking. The council think they know best but when it comes to people the council knows very little. I have found alternative shopping venue for my family and the good shopkeepers of Darlington did not deserve to lose my business but its pure economics I can’t afford to shop in Darlington.

Good luck Darlington you will need it, would I come back if it was free parking? No too little too late. I like others will not be messed about by Darlington Council and it is totally your fault that the shopkeepers are finding it tough.

Shame on you.
I read this with interest and as far as I am concerned I voted with my wallet some time ago when they stopped the free parking. The council think they know best but when it comes to people the council knows very little. I have found alternative shopping venue for my family and the good shopkeepers of Darlington did not deserve to lose my business but its pure economics I can’t afford to shop in Darlington. Good luck Darlington you will need it, would I come back if it was free parking? No too little too late. I like others will not be messed about by Darlington Council and it is totally your fault that the shopkeepers are finding it tough. Shame on you. Mr A
  • Score: 13

9:47am Tue 27 Nov 12

Madadrian says...

We hardly need more commercial premises when so much is standing empty. The large office building behind Boots. The carpet shop across the road that closed after a fire. The club that has stood empty and vandalised. Now the old Cinema in Bondgate and the club in Gladstone street. Not to mention the almost empty Telegraph house and all the empty shops in the town centre. Darlington is not a friendly town to visitors or investors.

As for parking. I can drive into Stockton for better shops and a better market and park for 3 hours for a pound.

In Darlington the morons are more bent on wasting one and a half million pounds on wheely bins than in improving the town for the people and visitors.

Or perhaps the council are more concerned with lining their own pockets. I see allowances of up to £30000 being paid to councilors for duties that people used to volunteer for free
We hardly need more commercial premises when so much is standing empty. The large office building behind Boots. The carpet shop across the road that closed after a fire. The club that has stood empty and vandalised. Now the old Cinema in Bondgate and the club in Gladstone street. Not to mention the almost empty Telegraph house and all the empty shops in the town centre. Darlington is not a friendly town to visitors or investors. As for parking. I can drive into Stockton for better shops and a better market and park for 3 hours for a pound. In Darlington the morons are more bent on wasting one and a half million pounds on wheely bins than in improving the town for the people and visitors. Or perhaps the council are more concerned with lining their own pockets. I see allowances of up to £30000 being paid to councilors for duties that people used to volunteer for free Madadrian
  • Score: 8

9:50am Tue 27 Nov 12

Madadrian says...

"after months of consultation with local people."?

Who was consulted?

Nobody I know. Just like the wheelie bin issue. Nobody consulted on that. Or is the definition of consultation that bloke in the pub at lunchtime?
"after months of consultation with local people."? Who was consulted? Nobody I know. Just like the wheelie bin issue. Nobody consulted on that. Or is the definition of consultation that bloke in the pub at lunchtime? Madadrian
  • Score: 10

10:06am Tue 27 Nov 12

Hunty1 says...

I'm sure they will already have their favourites lined up to deliver the work... they always do!
Teesside Park and The Metro for me especially as it's free parking and the choice of shops are good, who wants to line any more of the councillors pockets? Darlington is just seen as a Traveller Community outside of the area now and it's very sad to see it's decline at the hands of people with little or no interest in its rate payers!
I'm sure they will already have their favourites lined up to deliver the work... they always do! Teesside Park and The Metro for me especially as it's free parking and the choice of shops are good, who wants to line any more of the councillors pockets? Darlington is just seen as a Traveller Community outside of the area now and it's very sad to see it's decline at the hands of people with little or no interest in its rate payers! Hunty1
  • Score: 11

10:06am Tue 27 Nov 12

Hunty1 says...

I'm sure they will already have their favourites lined up to deliver the work... they always do!
Teesside Park and The Metro for me especially as it's free parking and the choice of shops are good, who wants to line any more of the councillors pockets? Darlington is just seen as a Traveller Community outside of the area now and it's very sad to see it's decline at the hands of people with little or no interest in its rate payers!
I'm sure they will already have their favourites lined up to deliver the work... they always do! Teesside Park and The Metro for me especially as it's free parking and the choice of shops are good, who wants to line any more of the councillors pockets? Darlington is just seen as a Traveller Community outside of the area now and it's very sad to see it's decline at the hands of people with little or no interest in its rate payers! Hunty1
  • Score: 2

10:23am Tue 27 Nov 12

Employed Tax Payer, Central Darlo says...

Darlington is a market town, it needs free parking and plenty of it.
Darlington is a market town, it needs free parking and plenty of it. Employed Tax Payer, Central Darlo
  • Score: 0

10:43am Tue 27 Nov 12

oliviaden6 says...

If a new super market is part of the regeneration of the town i hope all the super market chains both big small and medium will be asked to have a chance to participate in the regeneration scheme. Waitrose comes to mind i feel there is a need for a more up market outlet.
I believe that a bus station would be a distinct advantage to the town and remove the dangers of the many buses flying around streets that are on minute traffic free zones and then traffic zones which is a recipoe for a disaster. Then again the borough would not make monies from that i suppose they already have their favorites lined up for the building to the occupants only time will tell. It will be a very interesting few years in the life and times for DARINGTON
If a new super market is part of the regeneration of the town i hope all the super market chains both big small and medium will be asked to have a chance to participate in the regeneration scheme. Waitrose comes to mind i feel there is a need for a more up market outlet. I believe that a bus station would be a distinct advantage to the town and remove the dangers of the many buses flying around streets that are on minute traffic free zones and then traffic zones which is a recipoe for a disaster. Then again the borough would not make monies from that i suppose they already have their favorites lined up for the building to the occupants only time will tell. It will be a very interesting few years in the life and times for DARINGTON oliviaden6
  • Score: 2

10:45am Tue 27 Nov 12

Darloresident says...

Note that all the proposals are exactly that - proposals..
Its all gloss and no substance.In modern parlance its Kicking the can up the road.Just more hot air from the bufoons who run this town..
If they really listened to residents they would propose free and reduced parking,a bus station,a new Tesco,a business plan to help occupy empty town centre shops,town centre street cleaning overnight,rid the town of chavvy youngsters early and late evening,promote tourism using as a start the towns pace in history as the birthpace of worlds first passenger railway,cut high level highly paid executive posts at the council,take the available government money instead of increasing council tax by 5% plus,need I go on???
Note that all the proposals are exactly that - proposals.. Its all gloss and no substance.In modern parlance its Kicking the can up the road.Just more hot air from the bufoons who run this town.. If they really listened to residents they would propose free and reduced parking,a bus station,a new Tesco,a business plan to help occupy empty town centre shops,town centre street cleaning overnight,rid the town of chavvy youngsters early and late evening,promote tourism using as a start the towns pace in history as the birthpace of worlds first passenger railway,cut high level highly paid executive posts at the council,take the available government money instead of increasing council tax by 5% plus,need I go on??? Darloresident
  • Score: 9

10:48am Tue 27 Nov 12

judygone says...

The cost of parking wont be an issue soon,because we wont have any places to park at this rate.
The cost of parking wont be an issue soon,because we wont have any places to park at this rate. judygone
  • Score: 1

2:54pm Tue 27 Nov 12

BMD says...

Darloresident is correct: It is only another proposal.

How many other proposals have been shelved, because the "BIG COUNCIL IDEA" could not be sold to the private sector or gain private investment?

I am afraid it is just another waste of the council tax-payers money in drawing up plans and employing consultants, I would like to know how much this "BIG IDEA" has cost so far.
Darloresident is correct: It is only another proposal. How many other proposals have been shelved, because the "BIG COUNCIL IDEA" could not be sold to the private sector or gain private investment? I am afraid it is just another waste of the council tax-payers money in drawing up plans and employing consultants, I would like to know how much this "BIG IDEA" has cost so far. BMD
  • Score: 3

3:40pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Copley23 says...

I had the misfortune to go into the new Sainsbury's mess on Victoria Road. Never again! Cramped, idiotic lay-out....and you are queuing and shopping against the clock :-(

Many folk that I know that live in the Mowden end of town, already nip down the A68 to West Auckland. Easy parking, loads of shops, very accessible - and they collect nectar points which lowers the cost of the petrol taken travelling there.

Wake up DBC, you are being left very much behind.
I had the misfortune to go into the new Sainsbury's mess on Victoria Road. Never again! Cramped, idiotic lay-out....and you are queuing and shopping against the clock :-( Many folk that I know that live in the Mowden end of town, already nip down the A68 to West Auckland. Easy parking, loads of shops, very accessible - and they collect nectar points which lowers the cost of the petrol taken travelling there. Wake up DBC, you are being left very much behind. Copley23
  • Score: 5

4:43pm Tue 27 Nov 12

danlea2012 says...

Never mind new shops. What toilet facilities?? None in the town centre now the ones in the market have closed. What an absolute disgrace! Visitors and residents of Darlington will always need a toilet.
Never mind new shops. What toilet facilities?? None in the town centre now the ones in the market have closed. What an absolute disgrace! Visitors and residents of Darlington will always need a toilet. danlea2012
  • Score: 3

4:45pm Tue 27 Nov 12

joedarlo45 says...

The replacement of Northgate roundabout with a signal junction to provide better crossing facilities for pedestrians;

Have I got this right....the only Northgate roundabout I am thinking of has a subway available on all three sides, so surely pedestrians are well catered for!!
The replacement of Northgate roundabout with a signal junction to provide better crossing facilities for pedestrians; Have I got this right....the only Northgate roundabout I am thinking of has a subway available on all three sides, so surely pedestrians are well catered for!! joedarlo45
  • Score: 8

4:56pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Homshaw1 says...

Employed Tax Payer, Central Darlo wrote:
Darlington is a market town, it needs free parking and plenty of it.
Unfortunately the council needs money and plenty of it
[quote][p][bold]Employed Tax Payer, Central Darlo[/bold] wrote: Darlington is a market town, it needs free parking and plenty of it.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately the council needs money and plenty of it Homshaw1
  • Score: -1

6:36pm Tue 27 Nov 12

holmesc1 says...

Al negative comments. I agree the council ahve wasted money especially on the eastern transport corrisoor scheme and the area where route 66 was and the plastered parrot club and the recently vacated escapade neds looking at but least the cinema idea sounds good and how on earth can it be cheaper for folk to go to sainsburys in bishop auckland even if they live in mowden? the parking may be free but adding on the fuel you cant save anything surely
Al negative comments. I agree the council ahve wasted money especially on the eastern transport corrisoor scheme and the area where route 66 was and the plastered parrot club and the recently vacated escapade neds looking at but least the cinema idea sounds good and how on earth can it be cheaper for folk to go to sainsburys in bishop auckland even if they live in mowden? the parking may be free but adding on the fuel you cant save anything surely holmesc1
  • Score: 1

6:57pm Tue 27 Nov 12

MSG says...

If only we had an elected mayor, the council could not force crap like this on us!

They build on the car parks and take away our bus service. How do we get to the new cinema or revised town centre!

Up the A66 to teesside park is where i will be going!
If only we had an elected mayor, the council could not force crap like this on us! They build on the car parks and take away our bus service. How do we get to the new cinema or revised town centre! Up the A66 to teesside park is where i will be going! MSG
  • Score: 0

7:32pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Spy Boy says...

A roundabout on Northgate ? Only one of these now and the council want to fill in all the subways that it dug and build a junction on top. Maybe they should have left it as a junction in the 70's when they ripped it out to build a roundabout. Twenty years down the road they'll convert it back to a roundabout. Are they trying to keep some contractor in a job ? Makes no sense to change this while we are short of cash. Another council failure in the offing. They really are taking the you know what aren't they. Wake up Darlington voters and vote them all out and then ask for an elected mayor. This situation needs fixing before we all go under.
A roundabout on Northgate ? Only one of these now and the council want to fill in all the subways that it dug and build a junction on top. Maybe they should have left it as a junction in the 70's when they ripped it out to build a roundabout. Twenty years down the road they'll convert it back to a roundabout. Are they trying to keep some contractor in a job ? Makes no sense to change this while we are short of cash. Another council failure in the offing. They really are taking the you know what aren't they. Wake up Darlington voters and vote them all out and then ask for an elected mayor. This situation needs fixing before we all go under. Spy Boy
  • Score: 3

7:38pm Tue 27 Nov 12

loonyleft says...

an elected mayor ,what for to wastemore money?
an elected mayor ,what for to wastemore money? loonyleft
  • Score: -1

8:11pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Savant_NE says...

The more the Town Council can build , the more income they get, the better off its Council / Residents will be.The lack of Council Income is going to cripple this town(like many other).They need to look at other income streams quickly,they have dilly dallyed way to long and its brought us down.The government is determined to cut local funding , so in that case bring back Council Housing.That will keep the builders busy and generate a steady income.
We need to see the Turf cutting ceremony before most residents will believe the Council is serious and capable of bringing this to a realistic conclusion.
The more the Town Council can build , the more income they get, the better off its Council / Residents will be.The lack of Council Income is going to cripple this town(like many other).They need to look at other income streams quickly,they have dilly dallyed way to long and its brought us down.The government is determined to cut local funding , so in that case bring back Council Housing.That will keep the builders busy and generate a steady income. We need to see the Turf cutting ceremony before most residents will believe the Council is serious and capable of bringing this to a realistic conclusion. Savant_NE
  • Score: 3

8:22pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Lifetime Townie says...

When was the public consulted on these ideas? If they were it would be a waste of time as the council doesn't listen anyway No bus station just proves it! Why would we need improved crossings at the Northgate roundabout, there's nothing on the Northgate side. Commercial Street development died a long time ago so there can't be any retail interest in it otherwise it would have been full by now. After the wheelie bin fiasco this is another waste of council tax payers money.Too many empty shops in the town must say something to the council, one being people don't have the money to spend like they used to, food comes before luxuries. Try internet shopping for choice and ease of buying, it can't be beaten.
When was the public consulted on these ideas? If they were it would be a waste of time as the council doesn't listen anyway No bus station just proves it! Why would we need improved crossings at the Northgate roundabout, there's nothing on the Northgate side. Commercial Street development died a long time ago so there can't be any retail interest in it otherwise it would have been full by now. After the wheelie bin fiasco this is another waste of council tax payers money.Too many empty shops in the town must say something to the council, one being people don't have the money to spend like they used to, food comes before luxuries. Try internet shopping for choice and ease of buying, it can't be beaten. Lifetime Townie
  • Score: 4

8:31pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Lifetime Townie says...

"notes that the council’s priority is to create a thriving town centre, while also protecting its historic character"
What have they been doing for the past 20 years to create a thriving town centre. Increased the number of empty shops? Opened charity shops?
What have the council done so to protect it's historic character, demolished the Victorian High Row and remove the Locomotion No, 1 from High Row,
"notes that the council’s priority is to create a thriving town centre, while also protecting its historic character" What have they been doing for the past 20 years to create a thriving town centre. Increased the number of empty shops? Opened charity shops? What have the council done so to protect it's historic character, demolished the Victorian High Row and remove the Locomotion No, 1 from High Row, Lifetime Townie
  • Score: 5

10:16pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Herorich says...

I refuse to pay the parking charges and still risk a parking ticket from over zealous traffic wardens and confusing signs. I now shop elsewhere where parking is free. I feel for the towns traders, but they should jointly challenge the council.
I refuse to pay the parking charges and still risk a parking ticket from over zealous traffic wardens and confusing signs. I now shop elsewhere where parking is free. I feel for the towns traders, but they should jointly challenge the council. Herorich
  • Score: 2

2:54pm Wed 28 Nov 12

slimbo says...

There is quite a bit of misinformation on this and the cinema development proposals. Both have been brought forward by private commercial development companies no DBC who are merely sponsoring via their support and sale of land. They will not be investing monies in the build rather acting as facilitors of commercial activity in the hope it produces some benefit to the town. Yes sometimes plans do fall by the way side, or take a long time to materialise, however it is a complex process involving raising private funding, securing lets to operators/retailers and securing planning permission. DBC should have been doing this a long time ago and a march has been stolen on them by other local authorities. They will happen if the operators are signed up as will Debenhams. Everyone is right about free parking though!
There is quite a bit of misinformation on this and the cinema development proposals. Both have been brought forward by private commercial development companies no DBC who are merely sponsoring via their support and sale of land. They will not be investing monies in the build rather acting as facilitors of commercial activity in the hope it produces some benefit to the town. Yes sometimes plans do fall by the way side, or take a long time to materialise, however it is a complex process involving raising private funding, securing lets to operators/retailers and securing planning permission. DBC should have been doing this a long time ago and a march has been stolen on them by other local authorities. They will happen if the operators are signed up as will Debenhams. Everyone is right about free parking though! slimbo
  • Score: 0

4:14pm Wed 28 Nov 12

BMD says...

"The potential further pedestrianisation of the town"

The council will be able to put more market stalls on the pavement.

When will they try using the Market Square again! That is what it was built for and it will free up the pedestrian highway
"The potential further pedestrianisation of the town" The council will be able to put more market stalls on the pavement. When will they try using the Market Square again! That is what it was built for and it will free up the pedestrian highway BMD
  • Score: 0

7:22pm Wed 28 Nov 12

mak says...

judygone wrote:
The cost of parking wont be an issue soon,because we wont have any places to park at this rate.
I agree!!!!!!
This council is making money by making residents only parking bays (and charging the residents)
Then on the payday loan charges for misdemeanors which they even take pictures of!!! (where has common sense gone)
How much money are the council paying for all these traffic surveys on every roundabout etc over the last 10 or so years?
Then they **** up, (purposefully) on road management schemes.
We are becoming a communist state, what to eat, what to drink, what to do, how we live our lives is being taken over by governments and poxy councils.
Fook off the lot of them and let common sense prevail.
Born free, taxed to death.........
Fed up.................
[quote][p][bold]judygone[/bold] wrote: The cost of parking wont be an issue soon,because we wont have any places to park at this rate.[/p][/quote]I agree!!!!!! This council is making money by making residents only parking bays (and charging the residents) Then on the payday loan charges for misdemeanors which they even take pictures of!!! (where has common sense gone) How much money are the council paying for all these traffic surveys on every roundabout etc over the last 10 or so years? Then they **** up, (purposefully) on road management schemes. We are becoming a communist state, what to eat, what to drink, what to do, how we live our lives is being taken over by governments and poxy councils. Fook off the lot of them and let common sense prevail. Born free, taxed to death......... Fed up................. mak
  • Score: 0

12:29pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Quaker Boy says...

It's quite simple really regarding Northgate roundabout, put traffic lights there that only come on at peak times. The roundabout stays and so does the subway for pedestrians. Traffic lights should also be put on the roundabout near the police station that again only come on at peak times but is this far too simple for the Council? I think so.
It's quite simple really regarding Northgate roundabout, put traffic lights there that only come on at peak times. The roundabout stays and so does the subway for pedestrians. Traffic lights should also be put on the roundabout near the police station that again only come on at peak times but is this far too simple for the Council? I think so. Quaker Boy
  • Score: 0

12:45pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Lifetime Townie says...

Part time traffic lights is a very sensible idea and should be used in preference to the permanent lights. But the only problem is that the part time lights would be very much cheaper to install and that is totally outside of the councils thinking capabilities. i.e. must spend as much of the residents council tax as possible.
Part time traffic lights is a very sensible idea and should be used in preference to the permanent lights. But the only problem is that the part time lights would be very much cheaper to install and that is totally outside of the councils thinking capabilities. i.e. must spend as much of the residents council tax as possible. Lifetime Townie
  • Score: 0

12:50pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Spy Boy says...

loonyleft wrote:
an elected mayor ,what for to wastemore money?
The council are dead against this, so I reckon it must be a good idea. Do we need any more reasons ? They won't cost us any more than our current crop of execs who could find themselves on the dole along with so many other council workers who have been dumped to keep Burns and Co in their cushy little numbers. Also, they are electable by us, not just pushed into jobs by friends in high places and paid for by us.
[quote][p][bold]loonyleft[/bold] wrote: an elected mayor ,what for to wastemore money?[/p][/quote]The council are dead against this, so I reckon it must be a good idea. Do we need any more reasons ? They won't cost us any more than our current crop of execs who could find themselves on the dole along with so many other council workers who have been dumped to keep Burns and Co in their cushy little numbers. Also, they are electable by us, not just pushed into jobs by friends in high places and paid for by us. Spy Boy
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Fri 30 Nov 12

Spy Boy says...

Lifetime Townie wrote:
Part time traffic lights is a very sensible idea and should be used in preference to the permanent lights. But the only problem is that the part time lights would be very much cheaper to install and that is totally outside of the councils thinking capabilities. i.e. must spend as much of the residents council tax as possible.
You and Quaker Boy are right on the button. It's a shame that so many of Darlington's voters didn't spot this. Just another example of the hard of thinking council at 'work.'
[quote][p][bold]Lifetime Townie[/bold] wrote: Part time traffic lights is a very sensible idea and should be used in preference to the permanent lights. But the only problem is that the part time lights would be very much cheaper to install and that is totally outside of the councils thinking capabilities. i.e. must spend as much of the residents council tax as possible.[/p][/quote]You and Quaker Boy are right on the button. It's a shame that so many of Darlington's voters didn't spot this. Just another example of the hard of thinking council at 'work.' Spy Boy
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